I am looking for advice on which board to buy,
There are good sales for a almost new secondhand Dyno 3 in 115 and there are a couple 2021 Tabou 3s + for sale, in 106 and 116.

If there are owners of those board who can advise me which is the best for me?
I called a shop, they advised me the Tabou 106 vs the 116 because it will feel too big soon.
The Dyno 115 is 64,5 wide, the Tabou 106 is 65 wide, the Tabou 116 is 66 wide.

I am not light, 90-92 kg. I am a good surfer on flat water and chop. Jumps, planing gybes.

For 16-25 knots I like a board to use on the ocean and inner lakes. I like to use the board for blasting, wave riding.
We have ocean swell here, in summer 0,5 - 1,5m. In winter 1,5 - 2,5. Mostly side on.
For 10-15 knots I use the windsup if there is swell or a windfoil setup
Sometimes also an old mistral screamer (2008) 115 ltr for 15-20 but I notices on open ocean this gets technical fast. On flat water no problems - it blasts.

Used sails: 8.1 + 6.7 Ezzy Hydra Sport. 5.6 wave (to be bought) and a 4.9 Ezzy Taka

Thanks!

Short answer: either will be good...

Longer answer: Dyno is parallel rail design and really WIDE OFO [one foot off] tail measurement compared with the rounder outline/narrower OFO but wider wide-point of the 3S+. I've found that the Dyno can be actively encouraged to get going in lesser winds than almost any other board of its type, and it's become my marginal wind weapon [v1 95l, 82kegs], but downsize to a smaller board as soon as I can.

Which will be 'best' likely depends on how you like to sail in waves, and the proportion of wave-time to B+J time.
Re sails: the 6.7 and 5.6 are probably the sweet spot, but that's a lot of board [whichever you choose] for a 4.9m.
For blasting with a single fin and flatwater the 8.1 could work but it's above the recommended for SV Dyno, optimistically 7.5m listed. Don't know about the 3S+ range. The 3S+ being a tiny bit longer might make it better for that, but they're both all-round freewaves with less rocker flat than say a SV Fox.

Windsurf did a recent 'review' of the Dyno 125 saying good up to 7.8 and for turning, and float and ride wave-sailing: www.windsurf.co.uk/severne-dyno-3-125-2022-test-review/

What other boards do you have in your quiver?

I have the Dyno 115 V1. The biggest sail I use on that board is 6.2. Not sure how it would work with an 8.1. It does come with covers for the thruster boxes and you should be able to run a 42cm Powerbox fin.

I have used the board with a 6.2 in single fin setup and the straps in the outboard positions and that makes it a pretty fast board considering how well it goes in waves.

I think at 90kgs it's a super light wind board. I use it as my main board but I am touch over 110. The main thing you will find with lower weight is that the wider tail needs more active footwork in waves.

Where are you based? Asking because it might be possible to arrange a demo depending on where your homebase is.

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Blueskydrinker said..
Short answer: either will be good...

Longer answer: Dyno is parallel rail design and really WIDE OFO [one foot off] tail measurement compared with the rounder outline/narrower OFO but wider wide-point of the 3S+. I've found that the Dyno can be actively encouraged to get going in lesser winds than almost any other board of its type, and it's become my marginal wind weapon [v1 95l, 82kegs], but downsize to a smaller board as soon as I can.

Which will be 'best' likely depends on how you like to sail in waves, and the proportion of wave-time to B+J time.
Re sails: the 6.7 and 5.6 are probably the sweet spot, but that's a lot of board [whichever you choose] for a 4.9m.
For blasting with a single fin and flatwater the 8.1 could work but it's above the recommended for SV Dyno, optimistically 7.5m listed. Don't know about the 3S+ range. The 3S+ being a tiny bit longer might make it better for that, but they're both all-round freewaves with less rocker flat than say a SV Fox.

Windsurf did a recent 'review' of the Dyno 125 saying good up to 7.8 and for turning, and float and ride wave-sailing: www.windsurf.co.uk/severne-dyno-3-125-2022-test-review/

What other boards do you have in your quiver?

Thanks for the reply

The proportion of wave-time to B+J time is about 50/50.
I do not plan to use the 8.1 on the FWS, in light winds I use the foil or windsup, and with a bit of more wind a 115 freerace board. I think I will keep using the 115 freerace on flat water for the bigger sails (8.1 for sure)

The quiver is now:
125 ltr Sealion Windsup
115 ltr Mistral Screamer (freerace/freeride)
Dedicated windfoil board

Depending on use / preferences /progression next year I plan to add a 100 liter wave board or a 120 liter freeride board to replace the Mistral screamer. With 8-15 knots on flat water I use the windfoil setup.

A 115 FWS could have the benefit that it might replace the mistral but It can be close to the Sealion..
The Sealion works great for wave riding in 8-17 knots, it is so easy to pass the breaking waves that I do not plan to use the FWS in float and ride conditions.

What do you consider marginal conditions?
Based on what you have (bodyweight +13 ltr I should end up with the 105)

Would you recommend 105 or 115 for 90kg ?

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stehsegler said..
I have the Dyno 115 V1. The biggest sail I use on that board is 6.2. Not sure how it would work with an 8.1. It does come with covers for the thruster boxes and you should be able to run a 42cm Powerbox fin.

I have used the board with a 6.2 in single fin setup and the straps in the outboard positions and that makes it a pretty fast board considering how well it goes in waves.

I think at 90kgs it's a super light wind board. I use it as my main board but I am touch over 110. The main thing you will find with lower weight is that the wider tail needs more active footwork in waves.

Where are you based? Asking because it might be possible to arrange a demo depending on where your homebase is.

Thanks for the reply and offer of a demo!
I am based near Lisbon in Portugal so it might be quite a drive ;)

Perhaps better to use the 6.7 as biggest sail for the FWS. I can use the 115 freeride for the bigger sail.

I do not want it as a super light wind board. You comment makes it clear that a 105 is a better choice for the intended use. This is also what the surfshop advice was. (I also have the windsup (125lts) for super light conditions).

I have the 95 Dyno and a 105 Tabou Rocket, and i find the Dyno not very good for blasting with a single fin set up. I have a mate who runs the 86 Tabou 3S in single fin mode for blasting and loves it. Id go the 3S if i were you, or at least demo one if you can.

I assume Portugal near Lisbon gets good wind? Isn't Guincho nearby? Never been to Portugal but Guincho sounds like a spot with good wind.

I had the Dyno 115 L v1, and I'm 88 kg. I was comfortable with a 6.7 on it for slog and ride, but definitely no bigger. 5.6 should still be good but 4.9 will be a handful. No experience with the 3s+ but I had a 3s classic before the Dyno and the Dyno was definitely more wave oriented. I've since switched to a Flikka 115 L wave board (with rocker #4) and that's perfect for the light winds I typically sail in.

I bought a tabou 3s 115l, use it in thruster set up and love it, 92 kg, sail it up to 25kn no probs, turns pretty good too for a big board. recommend it highly.

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Gerowaterboy said..
I bought a tabou 3s 115l, use it in thruster set up and love it, 92 kg, sail it up to 25kn no probs, turns pretty good too for a big board. recommend it highly.

Thanks!
I what sort of conditions do you use it?

Would you buy the smaller one (106) if you could choose again?

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philn said..
I assume Portugal near Lisbon gets good wind? Isn't Guincho nearby? Never been to Portugal but Guincho sounds like a spot with good wind.

I had the Dyno 115 L v1, and I'm 88 kg. I was comfortable with a 6.7 on it for slog and ride, but definitely no bigger. 5.6 should still be good but 4.9 will be a handful. No experience with the 3s+ but I had a 3s classic before the Dyno and the Dyno was definitely more wave oriented. I've since switched to a Flikka 115 L wave board (with rocker #4) and that's perfect for the light winds I typically sail in.

We get 17-25 knots every couple of days in summer, in winter less constant but regular depressions with a decent amount of wind.
Yes, Guincho is 1 hr drive! Amazing there but I need more experience in waves before I go fight with 30 knots + 3m waves :)
3 km away from my home is a very nice beach with more normal conditions so I usually go there.

What wind range can you get out of the 115?
Would you get a 105 if you could choose again?

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Robertos said..

philn said..
I assume Portugal near Lisbon gets good wind? Isn't Guincho nearby? Never been to Portugal but Guincho sounds like a spot with good wind.

I had the Dyno 115 L v1, and I'm 88 kg. I was comfortable with a 6.7 on it for slog and ride, but definitely no bigger. 5.6 should still be good but 4.9 will be a handful. No experience with the 3s+ but I had a 3s classic before the Dyno and the Dyno was definitely more wave oriented. I've since switched to a Flikka 115 L wave board (with rocker #4) and that's perfect for the light winds I typically sail in.

We get 17-25 knots every couple of days in summer, in winter less constant but regular depressions with a decent amount of wind.
Yes, Guincho is 1 hr drive! Amazing there but I need more experience in waves before I go fight with 30 knots + 3m waves :)
3 km away from my home is a very nice beach with more normal conditions so I usually go there.

What wind range can you get out of the 115?
Would you get a 105 if you could choose again?

Not sure of the wind strength. My guess would be probably 15 knots for a 6.7 down to >22 knots for a 5.5?

No, I wouldn't take a 105 L FSW, but that is because of the specifics of the conditions where I sail (light wind 90% of the time) and my preference for waves. I'm just not interested in B&J or flatwater. 115 L is my bread and butter size for my local wind strength. I have a 105 L wave board below it which I use as soon as it is strong enough for my 5.5.