Im thinking about getting a proper waveboard to go with my 86L kode. I would like to be able to use the board for some bump and jump when its to windy for the kode. I weigh about 72kgs, what size should i be looking at? If anyone has a cheap board they want to get rid of that fits the bill send me a message.
Thanks From Zac

If it is B&J don't get a waveboard they are designed for waves and most don't freeride / B&J blasting well.

A FSW with lots of vee fits the bill perfectly.

Being pretty light so maybe a sub 70L FSW - I dunno if they make them that small I think you could get a 70L though

Thanks Mark, they dont make FSW boards that small. But I will be almost only using this board in waves. Only when its well over 25 knots would i want to use it in the bay for some jumping.

Don't have time to look but I think JP and RRD FSW's approach 70L?

and to the red thumbers - guess you have never ridden a new school waveboard in very choppy 30kn and then ridden a FSW in same conditions and noticed the smooth ride

If he asked what FSW should he get to ride Ho'okipa, Gnaraloo and so on, everyone would say 'no way! get a waveboard'
When he wants to do B&J I've recommended a FSW and the nameless red thumbers come out?? Waveboard for waves.... freeride board for freeride... and in between is FSW.

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Mark _australia said...

guess you have never ridden a new school waveboard in very choppy 30kn and then ridden a FSW in same conditions and noticed the smooth ride

I have... pure wave boards spin out all the time, don't go fast, I just got frustrated with it because it was a dog.

...Until you're on a wave however, then they come into their own for slashing deep cutbacks

Anyway Mark's on the money, a freestylewave board will do waves a lot better than a wave board will do bump and jump

Had a look, you can't get a JP that small, but starboard do make a 68 litre Kode which would work really well for what you want... it would behave in a similar manner (just smaller and more nimble) as your existing board too. A secondhand Acid would be similar as well.

http://www.whatisthekode.com/2010/spec.php

Zac, the wind conditions are much better in Western Australia than for Victoria. I have found that on the ocean beaches(not PPB) the wind shadows in the breaks, over suck rocks, and in the lee of outcrop or distant breakers can leave you without air in your sail and on a sinking board in otherwise 20knot winds. Some sites Include Pt Leo, Pines, Flinders, Cat Bay, Woolamai and Gunnamatta.The northern end of PPB gets wind of is not typical for the rest of Vic. Its a lot smoother and stronger (around St Kilda thereabouts). Despite the previous posts on what volume of board should you get, remember this ...we dont live in Maui.....get a board with more floatation, get a board that suits local conditions. If you want to catch waves and stay off the rocks, your current kode or a floaty kode might be be better for victorian wavesailing conditions.
Mat

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matcoburn said...

Zac, the wind conditions are much better in Western Australia than for Victoria. I have found that on the ocean beaches(not PPB) the wind shadows in the breaks, over suck rocks, and in the lee of outcrop or distant breakers can leave you without air in your sail and on a sinking board in otherwise 20knot winds. Some sites Include Pt Leo, Pines, Flinders, Cat Bay, Woolamai and Gunnamatta.The northern end of PPB gets wind of is not typical for the rest of Vic. Its a lot smoother and stronger (around St Kilda thereabouts). Despite the previous posts on what volume of board should you get, remember this ...we dont live in Maui.....get a board with more floatation, get a board that suits local conditions. If you want to catch waves and stay off the rocks, your current kode or a floaty kode might be be better for victorian wavesailing conditions.
Mat

Like a FSW that planes a bit earlier than a waveboard?

I thought the smaller Kodes were wave boards, basically a replacement for the acids? Isn't the acid a wave board?

I have 103 litre kode which is definetly a FSW, I think it used to be called the kombat etc.

I am looking to get a Kode 74 myself and weigh 72kg (for bump and jump, and small waves) myself, which I hope to use next season in WA (got to have something to look forward too, I had a week there this year).

RRD make a pretty sweet Frestyle wave in a 75L size with a US box, dropping the fin size makes them very snappy in the waves. Fanatic make a very good Freewave at 75L as well.

AB....

Still curious if the acid would be considered a wave board, which is what the smaller kodes replaced?

The acid is more a traditional wave board, ie a 'gunny' fast shape.

Modern wave boards are wide and slow, this started with the Evo, which has now evolved into the quads (in the starboard range). They turn on a dime, but don't go all that fast.

Yes the acid is a wave board, but it's more aimed at big, fast waves rather than small slow ones. The speed lets me jump higher and plane out of more carve gybes, which I like However on the bottom turn you really need to dig that leeward rail in to get it onto the face, it doesn't turn all that quick compared to an evo or twinser.

My mate took my acid out and reckoned it turned quicker than his JP FSW... so it's not that slow in corners, but it's not a modern wave style shape, more of a traditional wave style shape.

Hope this helps.

Given all the advice about getting enough floatation and maintaining speed for bump and jump etc in this thread. At 72kg would a 74L Kode/Acid do the job or would 80L Kode/Acid be better? I will be keeping my existing kode 103. The few days I did sail near perth is was certainly windy :-)

i would highly recommend a 74 JP RRW. i have one for my smaller board. awesome board. still a wave board but a bit quicker and wider. pretty much the same board as there wave board this year. im selling mine in october. prob about $900 for a "09". only selling it because i want a smaller board like a 68.

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racerX said...

Given all the advice about getting enough floatation and maintaining speed for bump and jump etc in this thread. At 72kg would a 74L Kode/Acid do the job or would 80L Kode/Acid be better? I will be keeping my existing kode 103. The few days I did sail near perth is was certainly windy :-)

Either one would be a big improvement in control, it really depends on what conditions are like where you sail. If you have lots of lulls then get the bigger board (80l), if the wind is more constant then get the smaller 74l board.

My wave board is close to my body weight, it gets me going in anything over 17 knots or so. I've often wished for a bigger board, and seldom wanted a smaller one... if the wind drops to 10 knots then I'll sink up to my knees and it's hard work staying upright. That doesn't happen very often over here though