Just wondering, if a crossover board is based on a surfing sup, eg hypernut, should they work somewhat as a waveboard for sailing

My experience with the Fanatic Foil Stubby board was very good as a wave sailing board. The thing had a very pronounced rocker. Even though I bought it to SUP foil and Windfoil, I mainly used it for Wave sailing on really light days and enjoyed it a great deal.

DC

Crossover boards look to be one of the hottest segments this coming year. I'm very tempted to make one my next purchase just because of how versatile they are.

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Dcharlton said..
My experience with the Fanatic Foil Stubby board was very good as a wave sailing board. The thing had a very pronounced rocker. Even though I bought it to SUP foil and Windfoil, I mainly used it for Wave sailing on really light days and enjoyed it a great deal.

DC

DC, the multi boxes have limited fin sizes, have you had any problems with bigger sails, planing and upwind ability?
I wish the new BEE as STUBBY successor had at least a Slot Box in the centre.

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Grantmac said..
Crossover boards look to be one of the hottest segments this coming year. I'm very tempted to make one my next purchase just because of how versatile they are.

Yes, exciting times. I can wait once the first one will finally use a foil dedicated board such the JP Freefoil with a Tuttle fin or the Fanatic Foilstyler with a Twinser setup in the foil track as a real windsurfer.

I found the limits of use with my 4in1 boards (i use them since 2016) regarding planing:

1. With enough sailpower, e. g. in gusts, for planing on the straights, this isn't really comfortable: the board moves up and down on the tailrocker, with the flat deck of my board the foot position for transfering the sailpower is uncomfortable and the fins slide sideways because they're too small.
2. To get flowy waverides you need pushy waves, because you can't generate and keep the speed on a mushy wave because the boards stops planing as soon as the wave push vanishes. E. g. in small waisthigh groundswell waves with sideshore wind the board was perfect, whereas in mushy chesthigh onshore windwaves it was not really fun, because the board didn't keep the speed/planing in a bottom turn.

But for really lightwind and pushy waves it's really fun, for conditions where the big waveboard is still too small and cumbersome to slog out.

Alex

On slow mushy waves are you even intending to plane or to ride it in displacement like a SUP?
I was thinking I'd go for a 4-in-1 of some sort but our waves are pretty mushy and side-on. Although a few people ride them with a WindSUP.

Currently using a very large FSW which I also foil but it's a bit stiff to turn on the wave.

When it's super light and mushy you really want a longer board for wavesailing. It's also easier to catch waves with in those conditions.

The shorter boards lend themselves more to foiling when it's light.

It's no different to the length of sup you choose for different conditions.

Smik mongrel has longer models. The bee is to small for me..

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Paddlezz said..

Dcharlton said..
My experience with the Fanatic Foil Stubby board was very good as a wave sailing board. The thing had a very pronounced rocker. Even though I bought it to SUP foil and Windfoil, I mainly used it for Wave sailing on really light days and enjoyed it a great deal.

DC

DC, the multi boxes have limited fin sizes, have you had any problems with bigger sails, planing and upwind ability?
I wish the new BEE as STUBBY successor had at least a Slot Box in the centre.

Paddlezz,

You're going to have a rough time getting this to plane. As for upwind, I think it did ok. Again, I used this for very light wind days to wave sail. Really enjoyed it on the wave and it made me a better wavesailer overall as it let me work on the down the line sail handling, etc while having a floaty board.

However, if you're looking for something that planes without a wave, this probably won't be for you. I used it with a max sail of 5.8.

DC

I really like my Sealion in light wind and nice wave!!! It's not meant to get up and go quick, I can make my 92freestyle get up and go faster, but with a wave, it makes a lot of sens and I sup good as well.

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Grantmac said..
On slow mushy waves are you even intending to plane or to ride it in displacement like a SUP?

without planing riding a wave is slow and boring for me.
in mushy waves I'd rather windfoil the windswell now and leave the impact zone to the contenders.

Sealion - never head to the beach without one :-)

These waves look pushy