I'm constantly trying to improve my posture and I think I probably could improve some here? Or maybe a lot?Unfortunately my video got corrupted for the vast majority of the day. I think that later I was getting more outboard and tracking higher upwind but in this short video I catch two waves. I feel like I can squeeze planing out earlier of the dyno and maybe be more efficient at catching waves? I noticed after catching the wave at 0:40 I was trying to pinch more upwind to avoid a walk up the beach later and I had a very straight back leg and bent front then, eventually falling off plane.

My boom was set fairly low compared to how I have it for flat water or foiling, mast base at the markings on the board center, straps at center position. I've thought recently about leaving the back strap where it is and pushing the forward straps more forward to get a wider stance and help shlogging in the straps to catch a wave. I noticed I am not even close bending as forward with a bent front leg while shlogging as I see in Simon Bornhofts guide www.severnesails.com/dyno-board-setup-with-simon-bornhoft-part-18-how-to-prepare-for-waves-part-3/, so I figure that there may be some big picture things that I have wrong?

I'll definitely practice the warrior posture more as it isn't a natural habit of mine.

Straighten your front leg and point your toes forward.
Maybe make the boom higher, as you seem to be crouching a lot.
Peshawar with your front arm and bring the back arm forward too.

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Wind Smurf said..
Straighten your front leg and point your toes forward.
Maybe make the boom higher, as you seem to be crouching a lot.
Peshawar with your front arm and bring the back arm forward too.

Thank you, I'll give them all a go

Yes straighten and stiffen front leg to drive sail power through it. The stance you have is better for sailing upwind.

Bend your back leg to absorb chop and control board trim.

Thank you

Do you guys think that putting my front strap forward one hole (as forward as it will go) will help keep my front leg more straight?

I agree with the hunched over posture. It's not always like that but when I see my videos a lot of the time my posture seems off and can't point my finger to it, and this seems to be the case regardless of what gear (race foil, freeride foil, wave fin on small gear and fin on big gear). So it's a consistent issue. It's improved a lot since lessons but I also think there's a lot or room to go.
Videos of others just seems different. I may try to look side to side and compare more

I think I will bump the front strap forward on both the dyno 115 and kode 135 and hope for some wind to test the setting soon. Will try to focus on what my body is doing but what I think I'm doing vs. what the video shows often differs quite a bit.

Try and sail deep downwind and hard upwind. Then see how you must change your stance depending on direction. It'll help you feel and understand what you must do. You're not over finned by chance?

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Try and sail deep downwind and hard upwind. Then see how you must change your stance depending on direction. It'll help you feel and understand what you must do. You're not over finned by chance?

I don't think so but I could be wrong. This video is with 12.5 sides and 25cm center. I tried both extremes of the fin setting and ended up with the sides furthest back because it was helping with the slight onshore wind going out.

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I think I will bump the front strap forward on both the dyno 115 and kode 135 and hope for some wind to test the setting soon. Will try to focus on what my body is doing but what I think I'm doing vs. what the video shows often differs quite a bit.

Keep in mind footstrap position involves the relationship between front foot & mastfoot position. You can think about it different ways: Set back foot in relation to fin, front foot in relation to backfoot(stance width) & mast foot in relation to front foot. Of course this is a simplification as Boom height & Harness line position as well as sail & fin size also affects stance, & mast foot distance to fin is a factor with proper board trim. Bottom line is if think about all these factors in balance & try to change one at a time when trouble shooting.

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Set back foot in relation to fin, front foot in relation to backfoot(stance width) & mast foot in relation to front foot.

That's sort of how I do it too. Deciding back foot position first then front foot, then mast-base and finally boom height. Of course being ready to go back and retune from the beginning, if needed.

I cannot tell much from the movie though, the image is too distorted. I cannot see any waves being caught, just looks like fully planing all the time to me. Catching a wave from slogging though would be helped by the suggested "warrior stance".

Harness lines look short too, if they are shorter than your reach then you'll hunch up as you can't get away from he rig.
Also have you tried a seat harness too, that frees up your top half and you can lean back from your hips, I know its old school but for a lot of people they are going back to seat harness's.

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Harness lines look short too, if they are shorter than your reach then you'll hunch up as you can't get away from he rig.
Also have you tried a seat harness too, that frees up your top half and you can lean back from your hips, I know its old school but for a lot of people they are going back to seat harness's.

Just measured them, they are adjustable and I haven't messed with them at all since then, seem to be around 32" as set.

I may try another camera position/mount too.

It's a bit hard to get drive out of some multi fin boards. Maybe you can try it as a single first and go from there

I ride my 105 with a single 23cm freewave fin quite strong. You're using 6.x sails so need something like 28-29cm.

The single fin will offer you some welcome leverage, you'll be able to sit father out without crabbing around.

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It's a bit hard to get drive out of some multi fin boards. Maybe you can try it as a single first and go from there

I ride my 105 with a single 23cm freewave fin quite strong. You're using 6.x sails so need something like 28-29cm.

The single fin will offer you some welcome leverage, you'll be able to sit father out without crabbing around.

I may switch to a single to give it a shot. For more onshore it will definitely help. I do like the playfulness when powered up thruster vs a single fin, but maybe that will help work with my posture faults. We just rarely get sub 7.0 wind here and I'm excited to try different setups .

just for surfing with 115 l and 6.7 sail you are a warrior

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santi4 said..
just for surfing with 115 l and 6.7 sail you are a warrior

With this wind and my skill level I don't have many other options

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Wind Smurf said..
Harness lines look short too, if they are shorter than your reach then you'll hunch up as you can't get away from he rig.
Also have you tried a seat harness too, that frees up your top half and you can lean back from your hips, I know its old school but for a lot of people they are going back to seat harness's.

Just measured them, they are adjustable and I haven't messed with them at all since then, seem to be around 32" as set.

I may try another camera position/mount too.

I use 32'' too, waist harness and boom just below shoulders (a little bit high with bigger sails). I'm 175cm tall. Harness lines length is trending topic nowadays.

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aeroegnr said..

Wind Smurf said..
Harness lines look short too, if they are shorter than your reach then you'll hunch up as you can't get away from he rig.
Also have you tried a seat harness too, that frees up your top half and you can lean back from your hips, I know its old school but for a lot of people they are going back to seat harness's.

Just measured them, they are adjustable and I haven't messed with them at all since then, seem to be around 32" as set.

I may try another camera position/mount too.

I use 32'' too, waist harness and boom just below shoulders (a little bit high with bigger sails). I'm 175cm tall. Harness lines length is trending topic nowadays.

I'm about 185cm and 90kg. All my lines are adjustable, and usually keep them long except when it's very light in flat water or foiling, and very long lines on race stuff.
My boom may have been a bit too low though. I think by tucking in my hips more that my posture would've been better with straighter arms

Pretty marginal wave day so I went out on the 135 Kode and 6.7, then 7.5 to work on these things. I can much more reliably uphaul it than the dyno and it makes everything less stressful when marginal. The geometry is otherwise very close.

Also tried a 34cm fin but needed the 38cm today and it made a difference when I swapped. Wind was dropping through my time there.

Boom high. Front footstrap moved all the way forward. Me trying the "warrior stance". Looks like I can get more forward but even here it's very stable vs other stance further upright when underpowered in waves. It takes a lot for me to lose balance and tumble this way, which is even more important when the board is smaller. It's a lot easier to get away with any stance in flat water but not in gulf swells.

It does wear out my legs/feet especially since I'd already had an active weekend.
Also overhand grip in this position is much more comfortable than underhand that I use when planing.


Planing. I was needing to pump and aim downwind and catch swell to get it going in a gust, but tried to eek out some speed. I think my hips still can be tucked in more. Hard to see with the sun right in line with the shot.

I'll keep working on things when I can. Anyway that's what I've noticed, I'm sure people will notice other things.

I've just found out another way to adjust the boom height.

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Manuel7 said..
Try and sail deep downwind and hard upwind. Then see how you must change your stance depending on direction. [...]

How did it feel when doing so?

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Manuel7 said..
Try and sail deep downwind and hard upwind. Then see how you must change your stance depending on direction. [...]

How did it feel when doing so?

This last session was too underpowered to give a judgement honestly. I was lucky to get planing at all.