I haven't been out in two weeks. Apparently sandy was good today..

Should I drive out to inverloch tomorrow? Or sandy even?

Really need to get a sail

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ginger pom said...

I haven't been out in two weeks. Apparently sandy was good today..

Should I drive out to inverloch tomorrow? Or sandy even?

Really need to get a sail

Was certainly worth the drive to the Pit yesterday. Not so sure about today.

which sites/graphs are you using for sp??

hope it stays the same for next sat.

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i give up

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ginger pom said...

I haven't been out in two weeks. Apparently sandy was good today..

Should I drive out to inverloch tomorrow? Or sandy even?

Really need to get a sail

I've had a wave sail 3 weekends in a row... Apollo bay Dec 4th and 5th, Inverloch surf beach 12th, and yesterday at The pines Shoram with each place yielding some clean 4foot waves. Might get a seabreeze this arvo on the bay...They have said S-SE a few times and it has ended up being more like a S-SW.

Has anyone else noticed that this year we have had predominently more S-SE winds ? I've heard that with all the development happening in the Western suburbs that it is affecting the sea breezes and "bending" them more to the east as the western top end of Melb gets hotter and sucks in the wind ?

Windy - I use WindGuru & the bass strait forecast.

Wasn't too bad on the bay yesterday. I was planing all the time for 2.5 hours at Hampton on 110l + 7.0sqm. Not very exciting, but not enough time to go to the ocean.

Sadly, it seems I need 0.5--1sqm more sail on average compared to the previous summers :(. Ginger, thought about buying bigger gear?

I wonder if the seabreeze will get over 15kn this arvo...

easy just move to wa sailed 6 days need break

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ddevil said...

thought about buying bigger gear?

^^^second that...without my big gear I'd be a very unhappy camper!

Hooray

Got out with a 5.8m on a 111l skate at Dendy this alvo. Planed out of my first duck gybe which was nice....

15-20 knot southerlies predicted this arvo.... Won't hold my breath though!

Yeah had a sweet seabreeze hit Mornington about 6pm. About time! Fingers crossed for one tonight.

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windaddict said...

15-20 knot southerlies predicted this arvo.... Won't hold my breath though!

Well that sucked, I least I didn't rig up this time.

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Leman said...

windaddict said...

15-20 knot southerlies predicted this arvo.... Won't hold my breath though!

Well that sucked, I least I didn't rig up this time.

Yeah It did not even get close to 20 Same forecast again for tomorrow, hopefully different result

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Sailhack said...

ddevil said...

thought about buying bigger gear?

^^^second that...without my big gear I'd be a very unhappy camper!

Y I've got a sneaking suspicion that Santa may be biting the bullet
and getting me a full new rig around 8-10m
(especially after seeing the round the beacon fleet planing
in low winds and I couldnt go , but then this should be my final low-wind whinge ever ! )

With hindsight I don't why Santa didnt pull his finger out 2 years ago.

That should give me an 88L/4m to 155L/maybe 10m range.
BLOODY YES!

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steveBayside said...
That should give me an 88L/4m to 155L/maybe 10m range.
BLOODY YES!

I'm still not sure about big kit. It just feels big and you can plane on it but it's not like really planing, is it?

Fair enough it's good for racing or if you're really gagging for a sail..

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ginger pom said...

steveBayside said...
That should give me an 88L/4m to 155L/maybe 10m range.
BLOODY YES!

I'm still not sure about big kit. It just feels big and you can plane on it but it's not like really planing, is it?

Fair enough it's good for racing or if you're really gagging for a sail..

I have a 8.5 with my formula board and hypersonic and would love a 10+ sail if I could afford it. True it is not the same as sailing on my small gear, in some ways it's a lot harder and it does also help with the cravings. I just think of it as two different types of sailing. One thing I would never do is use my small gear to sail from Mt. Martha to Frankston and back or sail against the yachts on their huge square course, all on an offshore breeze, that's just asking for a rescue boat trip home.

I see it this way: sit on the beach annoyed at the lack of wind or glide the almost lake-flat water on a light afternoon off shore seabreeze in my board shorts. My large gear easily increases my TOW (especially in the summer) by over 300%. I definately think steveBayside has the right idea.

Now Santa send me a 12m sail please.

2 months ago if somebody had asked me if I'd be interested in cruising around on "big gear" I would have said no. But lately I've been giving it some thought. Question is, if your wanting to plane fairly easily in 8-14 knots of wind what type of gear would you need. My thoughts would be something similar to a 133 slalom board and 8.5/9m cambered sail. Is this too small still for a 80kg sailor?

Formula gear

I picked up an old Tyronsea 330 from ebay for $50, its in bloody good condition too. For those hot summer days where there is around 0 - 10 knots its good fun just mucking around on it in my boardies. Big enough to take the missus out sitting on the front, or a group of kids.

I think its called light wind loven

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Old Salty said...

Formula gear

I don't think you'd necessarily need Formula gear. I was thinking a larger slalom board (Isonic, etc). Although 8 knots is quite low..... but I've seen people on 8.5m sails, 130ish litre boards planing nicely in 10 knots.

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ejmack said...

Old Salty said...

Formula gear

I don't think you'd necessarily need Formula gear. I was thinking a larger slalom board (Isonic, etc). Although 8 knots is quite low..... but I've seen people on 8.5m sails, 130ish litre boards planing nicely in 10 knots.

For example at the breakwater to beacon race I hardly got planing with my 7m v8 on 100L supersport, wind was only about 10-12kts and i way 78 kg, I think the guys that got going ok were on not much bigger gear and were probably a bit heavier than me too, like ejmack says 8.5 sail and 130 L slalom board.

But where do you stop last season I completly ruled out getting anything bigger, it just gets to confusing what to setup.

anything bigger than 5.7 is poo, even 5.7 is gumby .

nothing feels better than a tad o'er power'd up on a 5 - come alive

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WINDY MILLER said...

anything bigger than 5.7 is poo, even 5.7 is gumby .

nothing feels better than a tad o'er power'd up on a 5 - come alive

lets all wade in with the tolerance...

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WINDY MILLER said...

anything bigger than 5.7 is poo, even 5.7 is gumby .

nothing feels better than a tad o'er power'd up on a 5 - come alive

Disagree...I enjoy being out in 20kts+ definitely, but enjoy blasting along in 12-15kts on my 165lt xcite & 7.5 cammed gtx.

As for "not really planing"...it is, and you can really get some good speeds!

It's just a different 'type' of windsurfing... Btw, chop-hopping is great fun on a big board! You can get good height & distance.

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windaddict said...

I picked up an old Tyronsea 330 from ebay for $50, its in bloody good condition too. For those hot summer days where there is around 0 - 10 knots its good fun just mucking around on it in my boardies. Big enough to take the missus out sitting on the front, or a group of kids.

I think its called light wind loven

I have one of those boards under my house waiting to be dumped at the tip when I could be bothered. Anyone is welcome to it for free if they want to pick it up at Mornington. It's one heavy bastard and unfortunately no good for paddling because the mast track digs into you. I believe I have the foot and extension somewhere around.

RE: 8.5 and 130 board. I think you would have to be 70kg or less to really plan in 10knots. My old board was 131 carve with 8.5 V8, Realistically needed 14knots when I was 96kg. Unsure though because the lightest I have been is 87 now.

Definately able to pump into the plan earliest on my formula although once planning my hypersonic is much more fun.

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Old Salty said...

Formula gear

Y interesting, i found an article about Formula and i never realised its quite different (sail steering, no carve so just like non planing)

I konw of Formula but its strange ive never seen one used or heard anyone talk about Formula, and its not covered on the forums ?
(Its like its some secret conspiracy)

http://www.boards.co.uk/articles/index.asp?ID_A=292&article_type=23

In SURF 8/2009 they tested how big your gear needs to be in light winds. Thought this might interest some of you. Here is how many knots of wind you need for planing on the different setups according to them (~80kg experienced sailor, lake, on-water windspeeds).

Board/Sail (with pumping, w/o pumping, planing through, top end)
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Lorch Glider 129, Sailoft Traction 7.5 (10-11, 12-13, 9, >20)
Fanatic Shark 145, Severne Glide 8.5 (8, 11, 7, 15-16)
Tabou Manta 79, Gaastra Vapor 9.3 (9, 12, 8, >18)
Formula, Point-7 11.0 (7, 10, 6, 15-16)

Edit: My personal conlusion is to stick to 7.5 or less (largest that rigs on a 4.60) cause anything bigger feels really massive to me and I can live with not planing in <10kn.

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steveBayside said...

Old Salty said...

Formula gear

Y interesting, i found an article about Formula and i never realised its quite different (sail steering, no carve so just like non planing)

I konw of Formula but its strange ive never seen one used or heard anyone talk about Formula, and its not covered on the forums ?
(Its like its some secret conspiracy)

http://www.boards.co.uk/articles/index.asp?ID_A=292&article_type=23

It's not that big in Australia let alone Victoria because for the most part our conditions are better suited for wave, speed and freeride. I almost never use it in the winter because I don't get warm enough sailing formula and the north winds make for some choppy Port Phillip. For me it excels in seabreezes at Mornington where it is almost completely offshore, 15-20knot (barely enough for my small gear), slightly gusty due to wind coming off cliffs. So the water is super flat for the bay, due to the amazing upwind ability I don't mind the offshore breeze and it will plane though the lulls between gusts. I also keep it in my boatshed over summer, so it's ideal if I'm just chilling on the beach and it blows up. My small gear I leave at home because I need to be more picky where I launch it from.

For the breakwater-to-beacon, I used a formula board + 9.5m sail.... and was a little underpowered, so not sure if something less would have been enough to be planing 100% of the time.

If you want to go sub-10kn, then you are going to need a 10m+ and a wide board (wider than slalom)... I've tried formula in 6kn (as measured using a windmeter on the Sandy Point spit) to find that you need the odd few knots of gust to pump onto a plane.

If 10kn is your minimum, then you can get away with a slightly smaller rig, say 8/9m + a large (and light-weight) slalom board can work -> a large'ish Starboard Futura works really nice.

Well Santa didnt get me and 8m+
(I was hardly going to entrust buying windsurf equipment to family!)

But my wife did manage to come through with this 0.02 Metre & 0.01 Litre setup
(theyre on UK ebay)
Should extend my high wind range !