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Created by Bayblaster Bayblaster  > 9 months ago, 23 Aug 2010
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Bayblaster
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23 Aug 2010 1:45pm
I got my board re gripped with sugar coat at Oke Surfboards last week, it seemed fully dry but I pulled it out before and sticky clear resin (?) has run down the sides and underneith. Any ideas which is the best way to get this stuff off? It's sticky like honey but clear.
Cheers,
Sailhack
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23 Aug 2010 1:54pm
Sounds like sugar to me. I coated mine, then hosed the excess off on the back lawn...ants played a part too!
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23 Aug 2010 1:57pm
Same thing happened to me from the same place.

From memory I used a little metho to get the wet resin off the rails, then cleaned it with a light detergent like windex. Eventually it all dried, but I reckon it took 2 weeks. Leave it out of your bag.

I also found that "chips" of the sugar coat would come of quite easily at the edge of the sugar coat around the rails where your toes would be placed when gybing.



Bayblaster
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23 Aug 2010 2:08pm
Thanks, will give metho and detergent a go on the back lawn.
There's a couple of lumpy bits and some has already peeled off near the mast track.
Dont think I'll bother going back there again.




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23 Aug 2010 2:15pm
I wouldn't totally write them off.

I snapped a foot off the nose of the board a few years ago, and they re-attached it with no worries. It came back looking better than before I broke it.
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23 Aug 2010 5:01pm
Anyone know if SHQ or RPS sell this or do this? Love to have some good grip on my classic 283 BIC
Spotty
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23 Aug 2010 6:57pm
Sounds like the resin has not gone completely off, as its very cold, keep it somewhere warm where you are not going to be breathing in the fumes until it cures.
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23 Aug 2010 7:49pm
Ahh, the good old Sugar deck.

Yep, as Spotty said, with this cold weather, the resin will take sometime to cure.
If you can keep the board inside [ and handle the sweet smell of resin fumes] it will speed up the curing time.

Contrary to other ideas, DO NOT rinse the board with fresh water!! The sugar coat will turn into toffee!! Just immerse the board in salt water and the sugar coat will stabilise, brush off the excess and hey presto!!

Back in the good 'ol days, if you got a spanking new custom board made in winter, you had to wait minimum 3-4 weeks for the bloody thing to cure before you could christen it! Otherwise you'd risk creasing it or getting massive heel dents appearing after it's maiden voyage.

As for OKE, they generally pump out great quality repairs, if there are drips and overun on it, drop it back and they should tidy it up FOC.

K Dog, whilst we're on the subject of deck grip for your beloved Bic, we sell clear skateboard grip tape that works a treat on those particular surfaces and it GRIPS! Cheap too!
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24 Aug 2010 11:57am
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rps said...

Contrary to other ideas, DO NOT rinse the board with fresh water!! The sugar coat will turn into toffee!! Just immerse the board in salt water and the sugar coat will stabilise, brush off the excess and hey presto!!


That would be aimed at my post...sorry for the mis-information! For some reason I thought you had applied a coat of resin & threw sugar over it, like I have done before.

To help with curing, use a hair-dryer to warm but don't overheat (this advice given to me by a fibreglasser, so should be sound?!?)

With a home-job the sugar does go sticky & as long as the resin has cured the excess sugar is hosed off.

I blame either my flu or the codrals for the mix-up!



jammo
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24 Aug 2010 1:30pm
There is no way what you are describing is resin running all over your board.

The point of sugar deck is that the sugar melts in the water leaving you with textured resin. It sounds like melted sugar from being in a wet cover.
Bayblaster
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24 Aug 2010 3:36pm
I got the sugar coat done over a week ago and all seemed fine, seemed dry. Anyway it got wet that day and I stuck it in the carport and only got it out yesterday, found sticky clear liquid (like honey) on the sides & underside.
I got the metho and detergent onto it and hosed the top and bottom.
Hope I havent turned it into a giant lollypop.

Bayblaster
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24 Aug 2010 4:07pm
Just had another look and the sticky liquid is back.
My guess is that it's sugar disolving with water and leaving a sticky resin.
Couldnt be anything other as has no smell and washes off my finger with warm water.


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24 Aug 2010 5:44pm
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rps said...
K Dog, whilst we're on the subject of deck grip for your beloved Bic, we sell clear skateboard grip tape that works a treat on those particular surfaces and it GRIPS! Cheap too!


That would do the job. Will come check it out.
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24 Aug 2010 10:37pm
OK,
Whilst we're on the subject of sugar deck, candy coated, sticky toffee, confectionery board grips, the easiest method to re-grip a board is a textured deck.

Strapper and Water Cooled used the method for years and it gripped as well as anything else without the Master Chef woes!

Simply mask off the area required to be gripped, apply a medium thickness coat of resin, overlay a sheet of open-weave curtain fabric, wait until the resin is midway through gelling, then carefully peel off.....and hey presto! Great, non-sticky grip!

Reminds me of a story back in the 90's when the night before a Slalom Race, it was mid-winter and I was helping a mate finish building his new race board and it came time to grip it. We had no sugar or salt and ended up using RICE as a deck grip! Coarse? Bloody Oath! Fortunately it was winter and your feet were numb anyway! Rice Power!
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25 Aug 2010 10:00am
The texture deck was great stuff. Plenty of grip and it didn't rip chunks of flesh off like sugar coat.

Booties greatly improve grip as well.
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25 Aug 2010 3:06pm
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rps said...

OK,
Whilst we're on the subject of sugar deck, candy coated, sticky toffee, confectionery board grips, the easiest method to re-grip a board is a textured deck.

Strapper and Water Cooled used the method for years and it gripped as well as anything else without the Master Chef woes!

Simply mask off the area required to be gripped, apply a medium thickness coat of resin, overlay a sheet of open-weave curtain fabric, wait until the resin is midway through gelling, then carefully peel off.....and hey presto! Great, non-sticky grip!

Reminds me of a story back in the 90's when the night before a Slalom Race, it was mid-winter and I was helping a mate finish building his new race board and it came time to grip it. We had no sugar or salt and ended up using RICE as a deck grip! Coarse? Bloody Oath! Fortunately it was winter and your feet were numb anyway! Rice Power!


"Ahh the good ol' days" Warwick you are sounding like an old timer
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26 Aug 2010 2:32pm
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Bayblaster said...

Hope I havent turned it into a giant lollypop.




SWEET!
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26 Aug 2010 4:38pm
Yep, I guess in windsurfing terms I am an "old timer"!

Actually, one really cool thing is the original wally I first sailed in 1977, which belongs to my best mate's family is heading my way! Unfortunately the original teak boom went missing years ago, but the hull is still fine after all these years.

I'm looking forward to reconnecting with it
jermaldan
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26 Aug 2010 5:33pm
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rps said...

..... I first sailed in 1977...


Dude, How old are you???
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26 Aug 2010 10:30pm
Hmmm, let me think about that one?

1977 was a bloody long time ago............Ah yes, I was the ripe old age of 14 when I had my first crack at windsurfing.

Location - Eildon
Rig - Windsurfer One Design
Instructor - mate's dad, who casually hopped off his tractor, still wearing overalls and gumboots, beach-started and sailed across the lake and back and made it look oh-so-easy!
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