we seem to get alot of em in summer i hate em cause if ya look at our forcasts for satday on seabreeze. we have one on the way and the wind is so crap and gusty. i have seen guys sail green point in them, looked like the wind was up an down and gusty. last time i was at green point i did,nt bother to go out. i normally go to lysterfeild lake and i think that place is worse. it sucks to sail there cause the wind is real gusty all the time even on cold fronts. but i am just a mad keen windsurfer and it can be blowing there when there is no wind in the bay on a hot northlys as well.

so where do you windsurf on hot norhtlys?
lysterfeild
green point
inverloch
there the only places i know you can windsurf but are really gusty

This is what i know about hot northlys
the wind blows from inland so most lakes in land will have stronger wind.
they have nothing to do with a sea breeze and a cold front, i could be wrong but thats what i think.
i know the wind can be dead at frankston and right along the coast of port phillip but be blowing at lysterfeild a gusty 30 + knots why is that ?

i am going to get im me car this satday with some of me buddys and just drive in land on a search for a cool lake.
i wonder what Hazelwood lake would be like i heard its a cool lake to sail in winter might put that one on me list and check it out this satday.

RED BULL SEARCH FOR A COOL WINDSURF LAKE

here is a vid on eildon i found on youtube. eildon still has water but where i windsurfed was mansfeild country club and it was like the best place to sail when the winds up and when it had water.


this is the best i could find on hazelwood dudes some wake boarder on youtube


and any one sailed thease lakes ???? got this from a windsurf vic info site for inland spots

Favorite Sailing Spots:
Send details of your favourite windsurfing locations to John Rohde. The NSW pages are a good guide to the type of information he would like on the WebSite.

Inland Victorian Windsurfing Spots
All approx 100 east of Melbourne travelling along the Princes Hwy. No nearby taps for hosedown but all have grassy spots for rigging.

Lake Narracan/Yallourn Storage Dam
(western end).
Located between the towns Moe and Newborough.
Pros - good consistent wind.
Cons - water is used for power station cooling so water level can vary sometimes, and unfortunately the heated water isn't pumped back into the river where you sail. A few submerged objects though they are slowly being removed. No toilets at west end so you need to drive to the eastern end.

Blue Rock Dam
Located close to Willow Grove north of Moe.
Pros - Good wind. Damn is up in hills. No submerged objects nearby. Fairly broad waterway. Fairly deep all over. Has toilets.
Cons - Bloody cold water in winter.

Hazelwood Storage Dam (south eastern corner)
Located close to the town Churchill. South of the town Morwell.
Pros - Very warm water all year round. Like a spa. Water is the cooling liquid from the nearby coal fired power station which sucks it in from the north and spits it out at the south close to sailing area. Good wind. Broad water. No submerged objects and deep all round.
Cons - Water tastes as bad as it looks. (however it is a popular swimming/boating lake with a yacht club. Water quality is monitored) No toilets at south east corner so you need to travel to the south west corner.

Hope you can make use of this info.

Since this is actually one of the few posts that isn't crap'tacular, I'll answer it.

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we seem to get alot of em in summer i hate em cause if ya look at our forcasts for satday on seabreeze. we have one on the way and the wind is so crap and gusty. i have seen guys sail green point in them, looked like the wind was up an down and gusty. last time i was at green point i did,nt bother to go out.

then that was your loss... Green Point is usually ok.

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i normally go to lysterfeild lake and i think that place is worse. it sucks to sail there cause the wind is real gusty all the time even on cold fronts. but i am just a mad keen windsurfer and it can be blowing there when there is no wind in the bay on a hot northlys as well.

you are correct in that Lysterfield is worse than the bay - its very gusty - always. There is almost always better wind on the bay than at Lysterfield.

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so where do you windsurf on hot norhtlys?
lysterfeild
green point
inverloch
there the only places i know you can windsurf but are really gusty

The only place is the bay - big flat open area where the wind can settle somewhat.

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This is what i know about hot northlys
the wind blows from inland so most lakes in land will have stronger wind.
they have nothing to do with a sea breeze and a cold front, i could be wrong but thats what i think.

Then you are mostly mistaken. A northerly in Melbourne is almost always the wind we get, before the cool change -> its caused by a cold front. And obviously a seabreeze comes from the opposite direction, so I'm not sure what your stating here.

Inland lakes will almost always be less windy than the bay, because they are often surrounded by hills and trees, which cause shadowing and other fluctuations.

That said, the buildings in Melboure city have a significant (detremental) effect, but usually less that inland (not always - local effects can sometimes be significant).

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i know the wind can be dead at frankston and right along the coast of port phillip but be blowing at lysterfeild a gusty 30 + knots why is that ?

Because the wind meter in Frankston doesn't accurately reflect the wind on the beach. Fawkner Beacon is much more appropriate -> it can be 30 at the Beacon and 5 at Frankston.

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i am going to get im me car this satday with some of me buddys and just drive in land on a search for a cool lake.
i wonder what Hazelwood lake would be like i heard its a cool lake to sail in winter might put that one on me list and check it out this satday.

Have sailed at Hazelwood a few times - only worth the drive if you live close or if it is mid-winter. Somewhat gusty being inland, but not too bad -> not likely to get planing unless there is a honking northerly. On formula gear it would be pretty good.

i live near frankston mate i know the place real well and if it is over 30 degrees it does not blow with a hot northly at all same for rye. i know rickets from that beach on to the city can be different tho to frankston an rye. it does blow better up there.

Green Point
Bonbeach

Awesome sailing in a northerly - starboard tack jumping which is perfect for me.

I've had the best sailing I've had on the bay at these two places - way better than seabreezes for me because of the direction and the wicked ramps.

Gusty - yes, sometimes, but not all the time. Seems to be a lot better in summer than winter from my limited experience.

Gutted that Saturday's forecast has changed - was seriously looking forward to that. Would have out there with bells on (and two sails rigged at all times if the wind changed!)

Then you are mostly mistaken. A northerly in Melbourne is almost always the wind we get, before the cool change -> its caused by a cold front. And obviously a seabreeze comes from the opposite direction, so I'm not sure what your stating here.

True but what about the days when they forcats nothing, no cold fronts, weak seabreezes, just hot weather like 35 degrees. i have sailed lysterfeild in like a 25 knot hot northly when there was meant to be no wind. and there was 0 knots right along my part of the bay i live in. the wind normally only lasts about till lunch time but least ya can sail abit if ya real keen for a few hours.

my 2 cents:

Northerlies are usually accompanied by a cold front, generally wind will go northerly, then shift NW as the front approaches then shift to the SW as the front passes through.

Inland locations on lakes can be gusty because the wind has to bend around terrain (hills, trees etc) plus can have thermal effects from the ground heating up.

Other times inland spots can go nuclear due to the funneling effects of valleys etc... the gorge in the US.

Rye can be better on a NW'er due to the wind being "smoothed out" by blowing across the bay - sometimes though it can be blowing at the top of the bay and be a few knots less at the bottom of the bay.

go searchin!

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and any one sailed thease lakes ???? got this from a windsurf vic info site for inland spots

Favorite Sailing Spots:
Send details of your favourite windsurfing locations to John Rohde. The NSW pages are a good guide to the type of information he would like on the WebSite.

Inland Victorian Windsurfing Spots
All approx 100 east of Melbourne travelling along the Princes Hwy. No nearby taps for hosedown but all have grassy spots for rigging.

Lake Narracan/Yallourn Storage Dam
(western end).
Located between the towns Moe and Newborough.
Pros - good consistent wind.
Cons - water is used for power station cooling so water level can vary sometimes, and unfortunately the heated water isn't pumped back into the river where you sail. A few submerged objects though they are slowly being removed. No toilets at west end so you need to drive to the eastern end.

Blue Rock Dam
Located close to Willow Grove north of Moe.
Pros - Good wind. Damn is up in hills. No submerged objects nearby. Fairly broad waterway. Fairly deep all over. Has toilets.
Cons - Bloody cold water in winter.

Hazelwood Storage Dam (south eastern corner)
Located close to the town Churchill. South of the town Morwell.
Pros - Very warm water all year round. Like a spa. Water is the cooling liquid from the nearby coal fired power station which sucks it in from the north and spits it out at the south close to sailing area. Good wind. Broad water. No submerged objects and deep all round.
Cons - Water tastes as bad as it looks. (however it is a popular swimming/boating lake with a yacht club. Water quality is monitored) No toilets at south east corner so you need to travel to the south west corner.

Hope you can make use of this info.

wow, all that is info i put on that site about 10 years ago didn't even know it still existed. I used to live near yallourn dam. They've cleaned it up and filled it back up again if anyone happens to want to sail it. Nice place to learn

p.s when i said consistent wind, i meant for inland waterways. won't beat coastal breezes

I'm off to Lakes Entrance this weekend.

I'll keep you posted.