first off thanks jay for the company today at sema4 bit lite on for you but good for me to start the road back...... very long road..... secondly does anyone have a decent sail to learn on? something with a bit of wind range have hpl boom and fiberspar3000 mast... just dont want to spend heaps and have to upgrade again.

I have old 4.0 and 4.5 Gaastra Heat wave Sails that you can have if you don't get a better offer. They are pretty trashed, but still work OK. Ideal to put your harness hook through a few times as you learn.

I have a Loft 360Free 4.7 for sail on seabreeze sail is in very good condition.

Contact Sam on 0421 116 499 as he has a bunch of older sails that he could sell you cheap to learn on. He has/had an ad on seabreeze regarding older gear. Has a decent 5m sail that might work for you...

cheers people am heading out of town for a while as soon as im back will be in touch.... would be good to get up to speed and have a sail with you guys one day. Thanks heaps