Out of the more recent crop of wave and freestyle wave boards which models are fairly early planing and very quick

My dyno has been getting up and going after adding the spinnaker

Check this out. Here's a fast wave set up.
Sean Patterson Lyttelton Harbour, Christchurch NZ, water choppy and rough, wind 20-30kts
Fanatic Freewave 106
Loft Pure Lip 5.7
K1 24cm wave fin

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AI.Dave said..
My dyno has been getting up and going after adding the spinnaker

Sydney to Hobart?

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Te Hau said..
Check this out. Here's a fast wave set up.
Sean Patterson Lyttelton Harbour, Christchurch NZ, water choppy and rough, wind 20-30kts
Fanatic Freewave 106
Loft Pure Lip 5.7
K1 24cm wave fin

Thx. Is your board the 2016?

Not my board but yes, I think 2016 is correct.

It's a bit subjective as it depends on rider, fin, and sail, but generally there's FSW boards that are more focused on wave (Dyno) that have more rocker, and flatter boards that are more b&j and faster.

I think the JPs have traditionally been pretty quick and still work reasonable in the waves. It's a shame that the smaller sizes only have a single back strap nowadays, as having an outboard strap at the back changes the board quite a bit and makes these great high wind blasting boards as the control is amazing.

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Gestalt said..

AI.Dave said..
My dyno has been getting up and going after adding the spinnaker

Sydney to Hobart?

Yes off Tassie east coast on Sunday

Based on boards I've ridden, the dyno planes amazingly early and is reasonably quick. I've only ever used it set up for waves

I find my old school starboard Evo IQ super quick, it does not top out like the current shorter/wider designs. But early planing is not it's thing

Depends on the year, the fanatic triwave was fast! The newer freewave is a bit round but still good.

Older JP would be the answer. In the newer ones I think all trade off top end for wave ability but the 25 dyno is reportedly very fast in single fin mode compared to the older ones

The fanatics are interesting, between my friends and I we have 4. Some are super fast and some more wave biased and not so fast. I did base a board build on the tri wave rocker which I flattened out a little and that board has great speed. The 2016 fanatic fsw reviews say it's a fast board.
I wish manufacturers would just keep their boards inline with previous years or change the name. Starboard are another example, one year is speed focussed the next wave focussed so it's a real minefield and leads to a certain amount of mistrust and I think gives fsw boards a bad wrap. Or a huge amount of research is needed to understand what's being bought.

the jp real world wave boards seem pretty quick from watching a mate on his.

Am thinking about my son's board specifically. He has an 81lt starboard wave board. Takes full advantage of the 5 fin setup. Single for blasting, thruster for bump and jump and quad for small surf and hectic bj conditions. He loves how balanced it is when jumping and likes the stable volume distribution. But he's starting to want it to be faster when blasting and earlier to plane.

Also I'm looking at 115/125lt options for me.

when I see something at a good price used I buy it and keep the keepers and sell the ones that I'm not jelling with at a good price for the next person.

i'd love to try a dyno, and the new omnia from simmer.

Don't get me started on dynos
They are a Swiss army knife! My 85l planes as easily and as early as my 106l JP single thruster. The only reason to use the jp is if I need to float out
Very user friendly and fun boards. Unsure about larger sizes but no issue riding DTL although I would prefer a wider front to back strap setup

Dynos get so much love. Which version do you have.

was looking at the boards 2024 review. The Patrik f wave gets a lot of love

My 2017 Simmer Quantum 85L is shockingly fast for a proper waveboard, it seems like all Simmers have a good turn of speed.
I've also got a 106L Fanatic FSW from ~2013 which hase done 27-28kts more than once.

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Gestalt said..
Out of the more recent crop of wave and freestyle wave boards which models are fairly early planing and very quick
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Also I'm looking at 115/125lt options for me.

If you want something fairly early planing and very quick, why get a FSW type board? Especially in the larger sizes.

Tabou 3S Classic, Exocet Cross, Patrik F-Cross are the type of boards I'd be looking at. My Exocet Cross was easily faster than local's Fanatic FSW or Severne Dyno.

Or if you want something with a bit more roof-rack cred with 3 fins, Patrik F-Wave or Tabou 3S+.
There are videos Patrik did on his website giving the details of the rocker.
I was thinking about dropping my 94l Exocet Cross and smaller wavier FSW board and getting just 1 board. I had settled for the Tabou 3s+, as it had a decent planing flat and looked like it would have reasonable speed. But they didnt have any in stock. Then I gave up on the idea as I realised it wouldnt be so good as the Exocet when there werent any waves.

Or yeah the tabou 3s quite popular with everyone!

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Gestalt said..
Out of the more recent crop of wave and freestyle wave boards which models are fairly early planing and very quick
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Also I'm looking at 115/125lt options for me.

If you want something fairly early planing and very quick, why get a FSW type boar? Especially in the larger sizes.

Tabou 3S Classic, Exocet Cross, Patrik F-Cross are the type of boards I'd be looking at. My Exocet Cross was easily faster than local's Fanatic FSW or Severne Dyno.

Only because fsw and wave boards are fun and cover a lot of conditions. In the bigger sizes I use freestyle boards. Although we're talking speed it's in the context of the kit. if I want to go fast I've got slalom gear. I'm just over using big sails.

the Exocet and Tabou are great calls but not very accessible in my area. Lots of fanatic and severne boards around

If it's for the son who just wants to go faster than a Starboard quad - anything. Literally. They're pretty wavey so any freewave will make him happy. More Cross oriented might be too freeride for him?
V1 to V2 Dyno. Older 3S but not the wide one or with cutouts they were both different to the classic 3S

im feeling ya with the model changes but same name. Kode changed from almost freeride to wave back to FSW then different sizes are different styles to FSW to pure wave
Gawd

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Mark _australia said..
If it's for the son who just wants to go faster than a Starboard quad - anything. Literally. They're pretty wavey so any freewave will make him happy. More Cross oriented might be too freeride for him?
V1 to V2 Dyno. Older 3S but not the wide one or with cutouts they were both different to the classic 3S

im feeling ya with the model changes but same name. Kode changed from almost freeride to wave back to FSW then different sizes are different styles to FSW to pure wave
Gawd

Sort of a 2 parter really. For me I think it's the 125lt dyno.

for my son, for his small boards possibly an 85lt dyno or similar. V3 onwards due to smaller tail. I don't want to make out like he or me are great sailers. We just do it for fun. He wants a board to throw around and is doing some pretty big chop hops at our local, trying entry level freestyle moves. So he likes boards that are loose and playfull. The speed thing is a more recent desire as we haven't been in the surf for a while due to life and weather so on flatter water plus his 111lt freestyle board is pretty quick which he likes

interestingly I got a 100lt Patrik freestyle which I'll either sell or keep for myself for blasting as he felt it was too planted and not loose enough. That was with a fsw fin so I'm going to get him to try a proper freestyle fin in it to see if that loosens things up. An 85lt freestyle board may also be another solution.. Ie. early planing, fast and fun great option for small surf.

you can never have enough boards hey.. lol.


what about pure wave boards, 87lt pyro? What about Goya boards?

Yes, agreed for Dyno. In a single fin 4 straps combo, it gets reasonably fast.
3S Classic , yes. Would not agree with a 3S+ being as fast.

It does get frustrating with the versions.
I like the standard Rocket a lot, as it can be fast and is extremely friendly in chop.
But only the 2016 vintage.
Hought some earlier models, and these were more "slappy". Later models are going wider.
I don't have money for experiments of that magnitude.

Pyro is a very early planer for a wave board. For me, similar to a Cube and faster top end.

I reckon go the two Dyno's and keep the Patrik freestyle if you can cos as soon as he is properly doing flicky spinny he will love it with a small fin (and good to practice new stuff with too much volume)

Just ponderings

I really like my goya one 115 2025 model. It really is a one board solution for me. I'm 90 kg.

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Obelix said..
Yes, agreed for Dyno. In a single fin 4 straps combo, it gets reasonably fast.
3S Classic , yes. Would not agree with a 3S+ being as fast.

It does get frustrating with the versions.
I like the standard Rocket a lot, as it can be fast and is extremely friendly in chop.
But only the 2016 vintage.
Hought some earlier models, and these were more "slappy". Later models are going wider.
I don't have money for experiments of that magnitude.

Yup, neither do I so a lot of older model boards get their time to shine

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Mark _australia said..
Pyro is a very early planer for a wave board. For me, similar to a Cube and faster top end.

I reckon go the two Dyno's and keep the Patrik freestyle if you can cos as soon as he is properly doing flicky spinny he will love it with a small fin (and good to practice new stuff with too much volume)

Just ponderings

He's got a 2012 111lt flare for his big board. It gets a lot of use being his favourite board and in my opinion is one of the greatest board ever made. It does everything discussed so far. Thinking about it I think I had the patrik freetyle board over finned which is why it felt more freeride orientated. The newer freestyle shapes have a lot of tail volume and that combined with a 26cm fsw fin prob meant it felt stiff to him. Keen to try again when the wind comes back with a smaller fin.

the 2025 jp freestyle board shape I really like the look of. Slightly less tail volume than previous models.

I'll keep a look out for pyros used.

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Hydrosurf said..
I really like my goya one 115 2025 model. It really is a one board solution for me. I'm 90 kg.

Seems to be a few used goyas in my area so they are always an option.

Confirm about older 3S and watch out for the One, some can be a bit too wavey or stiff. Mine is 2013 or 14.


Their newer custom 3(?) can be fast!

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Manuel7 said..
Confirm about older 3S and watch out for the One, some can be a bit too wavey or stiff. Mine is 2013 or 14.


Their newer custom 3(?) can be fast!

Have been looking at the reviews of the custom 3 and the one 3 pro.. sounds great.

I can vouch for the Dyno. Bought a 115liter v4 in November, but have only been able to get out a couple of times.
1st session: Just enough to plane for an hour (13 - 17 knots). All 4 footstraps in outboard position, single 33.5cm race fin, no fin blanks in the slot boxes (didn't have those at the time), Goya 6.4 Nexus rigged pretty loosely. Was able to hit 26.8mph and felt like there was plenty of room if the wind was a bit better. Was open ocean, small chop, no waves.

2nd session: Had board set up for surf mode (2 stock 12cm side bites and a 25cm Drake freewave fin...didn't have the original Severne fin). Still used both straps in back. Wind started off kind of light, then filled in pretty well. Was on a Goya 6.3 Eclipse and could've been on a 5.7 for a little while. Waves were small, but enough to get a taste of how it might feel in better swell. So far, feels really nice in our really crappy waves. Easy to turn and carve. Will definitely not be using the fourth strap if the expectation is bump and jumping/waveriding. Only intentionally tried to bare off for a speed run once, got up to 26.6mph...on a wave sail, with three fins, in small waves and chop.

Thx for chiming in.

So I bought a cheap old model used starboard freestyle board as a step down from the 2012 flare when the wind is up.... Gear acquisition syndrome is a real issue for me but I promised myself if I ever found this particular board I'd grab it.

My son starts getting twitchy when I talk of replacing his wave board. Apparently it's his favourite board for jumping when the winds up. Hard to argue with that.