i don't have any Ezzys, but ...
for me a spacing of 7.0 to 8.5 is perfect ...
in another recent post about early planing and grunt, the NP V8 was liked more than the Lion

jirvin4505 said..
Only commenting as a Ezzy lover

i sail lions at 95kg.

Spacing from ezzy lion 8.5 to Ezzy (pre lion) infinity 7m was an easy ask on the sail range

I am now with updated sails I go 8.5 lion down to 7.5 lion then 6.5 legacy (similar to cheta)

So suppose what goal is. Do you find cheta drop from 8.5 to7 too much??

imho I would sell 8.5 cheta and get 8.5 lion or replace 7 cheta with 7.5 lion

cheers jeff
love the ease of Ezzy cams

I don't think I could bare to sell my 7.0 cheetah ...it's my ocean sail .which is very easy to use in rough conditions .

You right I probably don't need a in between .

but want a fast flat water sail that I can sail fully over powered without going too big ,but don't want to go a full cammed sail ,or a huge luff pocket ....well,I would but EZZY don't make them .I did ask David about what sail to use for GPS .sailing .
He suggested the lion .as it is his fastest sail.

can you have too many sails ??

how is the Top speed of your lions Jeff. .?

thats what Im really after top speed .


Thanks joe , just having brought a ezzy 91% mast feel I should stick with EZZY.
but the V8 has always been a good sail .had one years back .

thanks .for the replies.

discussion/post here on whether it is worthwhile to even replace 8.5 Cheetah with a Lion:

fluidlines1.wordpress.com/2016/02/12/ezzy-cheetah-lion-sails-review-by-danny-geereedhary/

can't comment on the ezzys as I am using Tushingham sails at present, but for the sail size I think what you have is not bad.
A few years ago I reduced my quiver of sails to a 7.5 and 6.0, and 5.2. It was probably more of a mind game that I played on my self that the gap of 7.5-6 was to big. However I did not really ever have any issues with this. When the 7.5 got to much, the 6.0 was perfect on my next board size down. would constantly find myself going to the beach with 2 boards and 2 sails pretty much most days(7.5+6m both no cam sails and 122ltr + 104 ltr board) and never having any issues). Talked my self into changing to 7.8m and 7.0m 2cam sails, then down to 6.2 and 5.2m.
Now, the last season or so I find that I use my 7.0 mostly. if I cant get going with a 7m 2cam and I change up to the 7.8, I still can't get going. I constantly wish that I had an 8.5m sail.
Going the other way, If I rig my 7.8 and get over powered then going to the 7, I am still over powered. I'll change to a 6.2, some times the 5.2.
So if you think that a 7.5m cam sail is going to fit in your quiver only for certain locations or water conditions the go for it. Otherwise you'll probably find that what you have is hard to beat.
Also, I have looked at the ezzy sails a lot and quite a few crew at my local use them and I think they are a really nice rig. Made to last unlike most sails today. Those that use them vouch for there good wind range.

dave

grich62 said..

Tardy said..
I have a 7,0 cheetah ,then my next step up is a 8.5 cheetah .
thinking a 7.5 ,2 cam lion 3...
is there anyone out there using this sail ,can they comment .

it reads as having good low down grunt
.seem there is no 7,8 ,which is
in the middle .hoping this will fill the gap.as a cammed sail it should match the power of a 7,8.no cam .
thanks in advance .

hi tardy i own 9 ezzy sails 9.5 lion 3 and 8.5,7.5 and 6.5 2014 lions ,i think you can do away with a 7 .5 as your sail spread is good if you really want to gps i find the 6.5 is fastest in 20 + knts . the 7.5 and 8.5 seem to keep up with the high end sails so the advantage of having small sleeve is great for water starting for me ,and handling and cam rotations are the best i have used.you don,t say what size mast you use as a 8.5 uses a 490 and the 7 uses a 460, ezzy really do work best with the correct mast and one of your sails has the wrong mast in it,unless you have two masts. if you buy a 7.5 lion you will need a 460 .

Thanks grich.
yeah I have a 490 for my 8,5. It a 100% north SDM .it works perfect ..and such a pleasure to use .
And a 91%460 ezzy .
great you like your lions .

thanks dave and azymuth.

it doesn't really sound like I need this sail ...true ..

i accidentally brought it yesterday .
it just looked too good .in orange .

I'll give my report .
kid brought the flu home so guess who's got it now .might be a week ..

one of my main reasons for buying this size ,is ,i've been out on dead flat water on my
115 Tabou and 7.0...,where I'm just a little under powered ,or feel as though i could handle a bit more sail
it doesn't really carry the 8.5 that good.as only rated for a 7.5 ...so rather than jump up to a 125 litre tabou board ,
i'd rather put a 7.5 on .which i haven't owed in the past ,as the 115 rocket is a very fast board compared to the 125 .
so basically i'm buying sails for the boards i own ,now

I think it will be a great sail,and size to have .

thanks grich. i have a RDM EZZY 91% 460.so all good.

luff 480.

If powerfull raceboard sail is the goal especially upwind drive. ..... the sail designed to do the job is king

my raceboard specific sail is the true beast -9.5 severne. It's more powerfull than the 9.5 lion however for me as a 'keen beginner' it gets more unmanageable quicker in higher winds especially as I don't have the extras like adjustable out and down hauls.

I have seen racereports raceboards where they down size to 9.5 slalom sails in high wind conditions

cheers jeff
ps. For Se qld conditions my most used sail is 8.5 lion 100-95kg. I imagine the 8m cheta would get a lot if use also if that was my sail. However the 9.5 lion is often the go to in those minimal whitecap Se qld conditions. If I'm going long boarding than I'm not expecting to get the jp slw planing so winds would be less and the 9.5 is the choice unless I'm working on skills and then I stay with 7.5

I'm 85kg, sailing on Lake Michigan and other lakes in the Midwest US. Chop and 6' swell is common. Been using a 8.5 Lion3 for a year now and this is my most favorite sail in conditions between 13-17 knots. I sail it on a 124Liter. Great range, smooth but powerful. I have also a 7,5 and 6.5 cheetah and don't like them as much. Great sails but the Lion3 has so much more range...
i also own a 9.4 2017 NP V8. Amazing fit and finish. Sailed it 2 times on a Super Lightwind board. It delivers more direct power than the Lion3, probably due to the fact it is monofilm construction mainly. Seems to be a great sail also.
Back to the Lion3: if I could I would buy a 7.0 Lion3 if it existed, but it doesn't. There's nothing to regret about the Lion3. Great looking, bulletproof construction, easy to rig and tuneup. Finally, it is easy to waterstart with its narrow mast sleeve that won't pick up tones of water - a plus! (The NP V8 has a larger mast sleeve).
Here's the Lion3 8.5 in action:

I came across this on the 3am gear patrol.Good to see the Lion in action. That lime green looks filth!! Wish theyd use more of it

Ok so after surveying all the positive feedback. 9.5m Lion3 is on its way. But not available til september....
Until then 8m Cheetah reigns supreme.

Hiya Tardy, yep bit of a wait. Worth it im sure. Fill us in after youve taken your 7.5 lion for a spin. Im keen to hear of its power n windrange. Cheers

RichardG lucky! It appears that was the last 9.5 in Oz. Im waiting for new shipment to arrive. Cant wait to try it on my Speed F1 raceboard.Not much wind here in SE QLD atm.Makes the wait a bit easier. Oh well, back to fishing while the fan ISNT on.

Stu, i kinda agree. Id like to see better colours. But im no pretty boy either. For me its about Power, tuneability n many years use. Looks rank down the list.

It was the last one I would have preferred the green one or the orange one instead. I don't think it is ugly.