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Imax1 said..
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I kind of rig the same but start with about 90 % downhaul.
The monofilm damage comes when u have to scrunch the sail getting the mast up the luff pocket.
I have done this a million times and am doing it properly. The problem is .... the sail has a small luff pocked with a lot of curve.

To pop the cams off easily derigging , I release the downhaul first , pop off the cams , then release the outhaul . ( the outhaul rope is a little stiff to unclete but not too bad ).

Then I have to scrunch the bottom of the sail quite high up the mast ( past boom height ) to reduce the flex of the mast enough to slide the sail off . Again , small curvy luff syndrome ( S.C.L .S ) for shot , u heard that here first .

I use the loop at the top of the sail. Put in a long screw driver into the ground through the loop then twist & pull. Quit often the mast won't come apart and zero scrunching.

Sebasian K scrunches on the NP rigging video

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BSN101 said..

Imax1 said..
^^^
I kind of rig the same but start with about 90 % downhaul.
The monofilm damage comes when u have to scrunch the sail getting the mast up the luff pocket.
I have done this a million times and am doing it properly. The problem is .... the sail has a small luff pocked with a lot of curve.

To pop the cams off easily derigging , I release the downhaul first , pop off the cams , then release the outhaul . ( the outhaul rope is a little stiff to unclete but not too bad ).

Then I have to scrunch the bottom of the sail quite high up the mast ( past boom height ) to reduce the flex of the mast enough to slide the sail off . Again , small curvy luff syndrome ( S.C.L .S ) for shot , u heard that here first .

I use the loop at the top of the sail. Put in a long screw driver into the ground through the loop then twist & pull. Quit often the mast won't come apart and zero scrunching.

Sebasian K scrunches on the NP rigging video

U must do some scrunching to get on the mast ?

I was told that to avoid the scrunching to push the mast over the cams and just pull from the loop at the foot of the sail at the fronts(padded area). That works great for not scrunching the sail but now the attaching at the top of the sail has now undone itself and the mast is getting stuck. Moral of the story, I'd go with a bit of scrunching at the top to avoid the stitching damage if I was you.

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Imax1 said..

BSN101 said..

Imax1 said..
^^^
I kind of rig the same but start with about 90 % downhaul.
The monofilm damage comes when u have to scrunch the sail getting the mast up the luff pocket.
I have done this a million times and am doing it properly. The problem is .... the sail has a small luff pocked with a lot of curve.

To pop the cams off easily derigging , I release the downhaul first , pop off the cams , then release the outhaul . ( the outhaul rope is a little stiff to unclete but not too bad ).

Then I have to scrunch the bottom of the sail quite high up the mast ( past boom height ) to reduce the flex of the mast enough to slide the sail off . Again , small curvy luff syndrome ( S.C.L .S ) for shot , u heard that here first .

I use the loop at the top of the sail. Put in a long screw driver into the ground through the loop then twist & pull. Quit often the mast won't come apart and zero scrunching.

Sebasian K scrunches on the NP rigging video

U must do some scrunching to get on the mast ?

Yep but like everyone try to keep it to a minimum.

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Maddlad said..
I was told that to avoid the scrunching to push the mast over the cams and just pull from the loop at the foot of the sail at the fronts(padded area). That works great for not scrunching the sail but now the attaching at the top of the sail has now undone itself and the mast is getting stuck. Moral of the story, I'd go with a bit of scrunching at the top to avoid the stitching damage if I was you.

Twisting the mast as you go also helps heaps in both rigging & derigging.

I set up adj out haul yesterday on my big boom 180-230. Never had it before so if I get a chance I will test it on the weekend

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BSN101 said..

Maddlad said..
I was told that to avoid the scrunching to push the mast over the cams and just pull from the loop at the foot of the sail at the fronts(padded area). That works great for not scrunching the sail but now the attaching at the top of the sail has now undone itself and the mast is getting stuck. Moral of the story, I'd go with a bit of scrunching at the top to avoid the stitching damage if I was you.

Twisting the mast as you go also helps heaps in both rigging & derigging.

I set up adj out haul yesterday on my big boom 180-230. Never had it before so if I get a chance I will test it on the weekend

I had adj outhaul on my other boom and i used it with the Hornets for racing the slalom series last year. I ended up not worrying about transferring it across to my current carbon boom as i wasnt really adjusting it much at all.

First time owning the NP 2017 V8 - 7.7, was playing around with the settings this weekend. I have it rigged on NP X9 460 mast.

The battens were already pretty tight - in fact I had to back off a bit of tension in top 2. The battens on the cams were also
quite tight. Loved how smooth it is to down haul and rig, nice looking sail!
Q1. Thoughts on the initial set up?

Q2. I was thinking of adding the 5.7 2016 Hornet does this sail rig on a SDM or RDM or both please

I have a 9.4 2017 green V8. The sail is very powerful and has plenty of low end grunt. It also has good range. I sailed and trimmed it for 11-12kn to about 15-16 in the gusts. But at this size, the sail is a lot of work. I did lake crossing with it (5-7 miles back and forth) in 12-13kn and that was an absolute blast. When locked in, the sail is very stable and predictable. I also have a 8.5 Ezzy Lion3 and the difference for me is that the Ezzy is a lot smoother in ramping up in power than the V8. Both have 2 cambers but the Ezzy with a smaller luff sleeve can be waterstarted, as the massive V8 really cannot once it has been in the water for a few seconds. The V8 is also a lot more fragile than the bulletproof Ezzy.

Trimming the sail, I put moderate downhaul so to loosen the leech a bit and adjust power with the outhaul mainly. This has worked out great for me. I rig it on a NP SDM 490 plus 34cm extender and one of those magical Northsail mast extension!

I personally felt in love with the look of the V8!

Nice looking set up French Toast! do you use the upper clew hole for lighter winds (and lower for stronger winds?).

My intentions are to use a 6.7 and 7.7 for foiling, I too sail on lake so its pretty gusty all the time and wanted something that
will lock me into a bit more stability.

Does the cambers rotate pretty clean or did you adjust batten tension to get it right?

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CoreAS said..
First time owning the NP 2017 V8 - 7.7, was playing around with the settings this weekend. I have it rigged on NP X9 460 mast.

The battens were already pretty tight - in fact I had to back off a bit of tension in top 2. The battens on the cams were also
quite tight. Loved how smooth it is to down haul and rig, nice looking sail!
Q1. Thoughts on the initial set up?

Q2. I was thinking of adding the 5.7 2016 Hornet does this sail rig on a SDM or RDM or both please

I'm pretty sure the smallest Hornet from 2016 is a 6.2, Hellcats went down to 5.7 but not as big as the Hornets.
I thik that I need a 7.7 Hornet to go with the 8.2. I like the 8.2 so far but not used it enough to offer feedback.

Beautiful looking sails guys. :)

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CoreAS said..
Nice looking set up French Toast! do you use the upper clew hole for lighter winds (and lower for stronger winds?).
Does the cambers rotate pretty clean or did you adjust batten tension to get it right?

Yes, I've used the lower clew for stronger wind or gusty conditions. Though I prefer using the upper clew and play with the amount of outhaul to control how much profile the sail has. One of the main reason for that is that my chinook boom is not really made for this sail: The upper clew is getting in the way of the boom cleat when using the lower clew. The boom cleat has a tendency to bend the upper clew tab due to the offset clew holes too close to one another. This has no noticeable adverse effect to the performance, but I still don't like how it looks on the sail. Also, with a sail this size, the Chinook boom is slightly too narrow at the clew area and in mInimal outhaul setting, the sail cloth slightly touches the boom when loaded. No big deal though, I'm not a purist and this has not been a major performance issue for me. I might fork the cash to buy a dedicated boom, but more beneficial will be an in-flight outhaul kit to adjust the power on the go.

The cambers rotate ok, not great. The lower camber has a tendency to stick and needs a bit of persuasion to complete the rotation in very light wind conditions. I don't know if this comes from the fact I'm using a shorter mast plus extender? Maybe this makes the lower half of the mast a bit more stiff and straight thus putting more pressure and friction on the camber? Don't know... again not an issue when the sail is powered in 12-13 kn.

Batten tension: if you look at the picture of my kit on the beach above, you'll notice quite a few wrinkles on the sail cloth and it clearly shows I forgot to adjust the lower battens especially. This was my second time on the water with it and since then I adjusted the battens! I didn't need to add much tension though: Just very little on the uppers and a bit more on the lowers in particular the battens above and just below the boom.

To finish, I use a Northsail Power XT 2.0 mast extension. This thing looks overly complicated and might not last forever but it has saved my back and made rigging that sail a breeze!

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FrenchToast said..

Is the purpose of the moulded plastic "doodad", immediately in front of the mast base, to deflect the mast from the nose of the board during a catapult? If so, is it effective and does it have any other unintended consequences?

Its called a "Deviator" John, meant to force the mast/rig away from nose of board in catapult situations. They are a big heavy thing.
A bigger version of "Jez's Nob"

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ka43 said..
Its called a "Deviator" John, meant to force the mast/rig away from nose of board in catapult situations. They are a big heavy thing.
A bigger version of "Jez's Nob"

Exactly! Ugly yes but they are not that heavy. I've been using this on the first few times I've used a new kit... that way there's less chances to screw up the nose in the first hour of use. Not pretty but useful.