Hello, i found a new naish sprint of 2016 in a good price and i am searching for an advice if i should buy it or no
I allready have a cheetah 6.5 (that is btw an awesome sail)
That means that my mast and boom feets perfectly with the Naish

From the other hand i cannot find any chart about the wind range of the Naish and i worry if these 2 sails are too close because of the huge range of ezzy (14 to 22 kn around)

Also do i nees a new fin?
My board is a fanatic hawk with 36 freeride fin

Thank you in advance !!!

A. They are too close , don't buy it, they are the same type sail, and yes range will,overlap,a lot.
B. Buy the NAISH, you will have 2 sails, and lessen the wear on the Ezzy, so both will be newer.
c. Figure out that you need a fin, maybe, but hard to tell when I don't know what fin you have or the board it fits into.
d. Figure that the mast you have for the cheetah is
1. wrong length
2. wrong mast curve
E.D will cost too much , even if the NAISH is a bargain, mast and c. Fin will no longer Mae the NAISH a bargain.
f. Tell,your pal about the NAISH , he buys it, and blows out the main panel the first session.
g. Good story for late night.
h. Have a serious talk with your spell check device, it's broken, but I managed anyway.

Sprints are great sails ....but you need a hard top mast ..eg ,naish,severne or gaastra.not ezzy ..I tried it and it was awful .

i just recently brought 2 race sails for GPS ,6,3 and 5,7 .and very happy with the gap .

First of all thank you for the replies,
@ forceten
why my mast has wrong length? I have a 4.3 caas mast cc
The guy, who has the naish said that after 2013 naish needs also a cc mast.
Is there any link that i can find this info?
I only found this:

naishusa.com/products/rdm-60-mast?variant=29890107408466

The truth is that i am looking to expand my wind range not to have too similar sails

What is the range of the naish for an 80 kg rider?

About fin i have the 36 fin that comes with my board (fanatic hawk)

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Original Poster:
, I said NOT that the mast you have is wrong, it's a possibility it's wrong in length or curve, but until now we didn't know., what mast you have except you feel it's correct.
36 cm fin is good info, now what size board does it fit into ?

The range of the NAISH SAIL , will be from NAISH, on the specs.

It will be essential to,know what year it is. NAISH have changed the mast bend curve in the past few years, to determine how well the NAISH May perform on your mast.



THESE PEOPLE supply masts, they update the chart in this link yearly.

www.unifiber.net/en/masts-selector

Looking at the 2019 version the NAISH and Ezzy sails both fall into the same general constant curve area. If you look at the chart from a few years back, the Ezzy will remain the same, as it always has, NAISH however has changed from a hard top preference to constant curve, exact year I don't know .

This chart should be considered a guide, it's far better than none, but the information needs to be utilized in the correct input and interpreted likewise.

One important thing I missed , the NAISH is a 5.8m, I was thinking it's a 6.0.

This does spread the usable range on both sails more so.

Your board, size unknown , is large, guessing a 36cm fin, would make it a 110-115liter, the 5.8 would indeed work, at your weight.

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Tardy said..
Sprints are great sails ....but you need a hard top mast ..eg ,naish,severne or gaastra.not ezzy ..I tried it and it was awful .

i just recently brought 2 race sails for GPS ,6,3 and 5,7 .and very happy with the gap .

This info is not correct, NAISH have changed from a hard top to a constant curve , and Gaastra as well.
Consult Unifiber mast charts , per year for updates.

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forceten said..

Original Poster:
, I said NOT that the mast you have is wrong, it's a possibility it's wrong in length or curve, but until now we didn't know., what mast you have except you feel it's correct.
36 cm fin is good info, now what size board does it fit into ?

The range of the NAISH SAIL , will be from NAISH, on the specs.

It will be essential to,know what year it is. NAISH have changed the mast bend curve in the past few years, to determine how well the NAISH May perform on your mast.



THESE PEOPLE supply masts, they update the chart in this link yearly.

www.unifiber.net/en/masts-selector

Looking at the 2019 version the NAISH and Ezzy sails both fall into the same general constant curve area. If you look at the chart from a few years back, the Ezzy will remain the same, as it always has, NAISH however has changed from a hard top preference to constant curve, exact year I don't know .

This chart should be considered a guide, it's far better than none, but the information needs to be utilized in the correct input and interpreted likewise.

One important thing I missed , the NAISH is a 5.8m, I was thinking it's a 6.0.

This does spread the usable range on both sails more so.

Your board, size unknown , is large, guessing a 36cm fin, would make it a 110-115liter, the 5.8 would indeed work, at your weight.

@ forceten
Sorry for the missing info
Naish is a new sail from 2016 (new sail-old model)
My cheetah is also from 2016 , 4.30 cc mast
My board is a fanatic hawk 110 (of 2013 not sure maybe +- 1 year) (65 width)

So what is your opinion should i take the naish (regarding to expand my wind range)? Or i should look for something smaller (i am thinking that with smaller may i need a new mast and then the cost would be higher)

I cannot find anywhere on naish site any wind range

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sorry , I must be confusing you as I have myself.

The board will make a sail size recommendation, the sail size as 5.8m does not have a range. This has far too many factors, which board it's on, size fin, sailor weight etc etc.
www.unifiber.net/unifiber-masts-selector-2017-v1
This is the 2017 mast selector , no 2016 , they don't change it every year.

NAISH on this chart is constant curve, CC.

Iam not researching your mast, and assume it's compatible as a CC.

So the mast based on what you have written is ok, 430 and CC.

Your 110 will have approximately a sail range of 5.0-7.5m sails.

Fin size many factors.

The 5.8m about a 32cm fin.

The 6.5 good size with the 36cm fin you have.

Going smaller ,32, will offer better control when using the 5.8 sail, if it's really windy.

Going larger sail to say a 7.0m a few cm larger fin would benefit .

Cool and thank you for your help

But the question still exist

these 2 sails overlapping each other so much that i should not buy the naish ? (regarding their wind range)

Help the economy, get the NAISH , you can never have too many sails, boards , boats , Ferrari's

Dp you have room for storage? Do you get a lot of days in the 20-25 range, with higher gusts? If so, then for sure, buy the Naish. Otherwise, you're spending the very best days, when that 110 should be really working, struggling with being overpowered on the 6.5 Ezzy. There's going to be some overlap with ANY two sail sizes, if you define overlap as days when you aren't sure which to rig. You'd have days like that even with a gap 5.0-6.5, which is definitely too big a spread. At the smaller end of the range gaps can be smaller - 4.7/5.2/5.8/6.5/7.8 would make good sense for a one-board quiver for instance.

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Awalkspoiled said..
Dp you have room for storage? Do you get a lot of days in the 20-25 range, with higher gusts? If so, then for sure, buy the Naish. Otherwise, you're spending the very best days, when that 110 should be really working, struggling with being overpowered on the 6.5 Ezzy. There's going to be some overlap with ANY two sail sizes, if you define overlap as days when you aren't sure which to rig. You'd have days like that even with a gap 5.0-6.5, which is definitely too big a spread. At the smaller end of the range gaps can be smaller - 4.7/5.2/5.8/6.5/7.8 would make good sense for a one-board quiver for instance.

I have a 3.7
i have a 7.3
explain the overlap
ahh any 2 sail sizes what ?

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forceten said..

Awalkspoiled said..
Dp you have room for storage? Do you get a lot of days in the 20-25 range, with higher gusts? If so, then for sure, buy the Naish. Otherwise, you're spending the very best days, when that 110 should be really working, struggling with being overpowered on the 6.5 Ezzy. There's going to be some overlap with ANY two sail sizes, if you define overlap as days when you aren't sure which to rig. You'd have days like that even with a gap 5.0-6.5, which is definitely too big a spread. At the smaller end of the range gaps can be smaller - 4.7/5.2/5.8/6.5/7.8 would make good sense for a one-board quiver for instance.

I have a 3.7
i have a 7.3
explain the overlap
ahh any 2 sail sizes what ?

Just that for any gap in sizes, there will be some windspeed for which you can't decide which to rig (It's also probably the most usual windspeed at your favorite spot, but that's another story.) For instance, let's say you have that Cheetah 6.5 and a 5.0 wavesail and that's it. If your life is anything like mine, when you get to the beach it'll be blowing 18 but with frequent gusts around 28-30. You can rig the 6.5 for the lulls or the 5.0 so you don't get killed in the gusts.

I'm currently using a foil to sidestep the whole problem - if it's not windy enough for a 7.0 and a fin I'll put a foil on and sail the 7.0 anyway.

My step down from 6.5 Cheetah is 5.5 Cheetah. It may be the the sweetest size in the Cheetah line up and is a dead certainty to work with your mast. Don't mess about with other brands that may or may not work. Find a 5.5 Cheetah.

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Awalkspoiled said..

forceten said..

Awalkspoiled said..
Dp you have room for storage? Do you get a lot of days in the 20-25 range, with higher gusts? If so, then for sure, buy the Naish. Otherwise, you're spending the very best days, when that 110 should be really working, struggling with being overpowered on the 6.5 Ezzy. There's going to be some overlap with ANY two sail sizes, if you define overlap as days when you aren't sure which to rig. You'd have days like that even with a gap 5.0-6.5, which is definitely too big a spread. At the smaller end of the range gaps can be smaller - 4.7/5.2/5.8/6.5/7.8 would make good sense for a one-board quiver for instance.

I have a 3.7
i have a 7.3
explain the overlap
ahh any 2 sail sizes what ?

Just that for any gap in sizes, there will be some windspeed for which you can't decide which to rig (It's also probably the most usual windspeed at your favorite spot, but that's another story.) For instance, let's say you have that Cheetah 6.5 and a 5.0 wavesail and that's it. If your life is anything like mine, when you get to the beach it'll be blowing 18 but with frequent gusts around 28-30. You can rig the 6.5 for the lulls or the 5.0 so you don't get killed in the gusts.

I'm currently using a foil to sidestep the whole problem - if it's not windy enough for a 7.0 and a fin I'll put a foil on and sail the 7.0 anyway.

This is what I call what you have written is :: the way the is.
but you didn't tell me the overlap, instead you can't decide which to rig
it's always , or near always a compromise, if it were dead easy it would be kiter boarding.

a better scenario for the OP would be a smaller smaller than a 5.8m, at that point his board starts to become too large. So a minimalist, quiver of board and sails, will always have a compromise.

Sorry, F10, I had you mixed up with the OP who had a real-world question.

I suppose if I'd been worried about defending myself against trollage I would have been more specific and said "any two sails reasonably close in size" or something. But of course you're quite right. The only circumstance when a 3.7 and 7.3 would offer significant overlap is if I were trying to decide whether to wavefoil the 3.7 on the outside in 25, or slalom-sail the 7.3 inside on flatwater.

You said it .
troll your ass. Actually your post is almost pure BS, do you have room for storage ?

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Shifu said..
My step down from 6.5 Cheetah is 5.5 Cheetah. It may be the the sweetest size in the Cheetah line up and is a dead certainty to work with your mast. Don't mess about with other brands that may or may not work. Find a 5.5 Cheetah.

That it was my main idea to find a 5.5 cheetah but unfortunately here ezzy have a really bad reseller, and the price that i found the naish is more than good for a new-old model sail.