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How to seperate stuck mast please

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Created by Motsbane 3 months ago, 30 Oct 2024
Motsbane
QLD, 179 posts
30 Oct 2024 4:46AM
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Hi surfers!
I need your help to seperate the mast please. Sunday at the beach, first, we tried to use 2 booms and failed, then other 2 surfers back from water, 4 of us together still can't get it work.
I tried WD 40. Does not work.
i tapped on the post at the beach, nothing.
I heard some way here, I can't find them.
One thing, I always tape the seal between 2 parts, so I am pretty sure it is not sand in it .

PLEASE!

Thanks!

John340
QLD, 3227 posts
30 Oct 2024 5:56AM
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Stand the mast vertically on its head and shake it. This creates movement in the joint which crushes the sand particles stuck in the joint and allows easy separation.

Imax1
QLD, 4814 posts
30 Oct 2024 2:54PM
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^^^^This works great.

Motsbane
QLD, 179 posts
31 Oct 2024 4:02AM
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John340 said..
Stand the mast vertically on its head and shake it. This creates movement in the joint which crushes the sand particles stuck in the joint and allows easy separation.


Hi John340, thanks! I tried.

Motsbane
QLD, 179 posts
31 Oct 2024 4:03AM
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Imax1 said..
^^^^This works great.


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Imax1
QLD, 4814 posts
31 Oct 2024 6:18AM
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Motsbane said..

Imax1 said..
^^^^This works great.



???


What John said above.
Jam the pointy end of the mast into the grass with the big end pointing to the sky . Grab the mast at the join and shake it as violently as you can. Back and forth in a big fast whipping action. Do this for 30 seconds or so at different angles. If that doesn't work , do it again longer and with more vigour. If that doesn't work , at least you've given nearby people something entertaining to look at.

Aus501 Boz
WA, 114 posts
31 Oct 2024 6:34AM
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If all else fails this method works, had a carbon mast stuck, wiggle method didn't work, had 3 blokes either end no joy.

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Motsbane
QLD, 179 posts
31 Oct 2024 8:14PM
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Imax1 said..

Motsbane said..


Imax1 said..
^^^^This works great.




???



What John said above.
Jam the pointy end of the mast into the grass with the big end pointing to the sky . Grab the mast at the join and shake it as violently as you can. Back and forth in a big fast whipping action. Do this for 30 seconds or so at different angles. If that doesn't work , do it again longer and with more vigour. If that doesn't work , at least you've given nearby people something entertaining to look at.


Got it!!
Thanks!

Motsbane
QLD, 179 posts
31 Oct 2024 8:16PM
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Aus501 Boz said..
If all else fails this method works, had a carbon mast stuck, wiggle method didn't work, had 3 blokes either end no joy.
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Thank you!

jdfoils
276 posts
31 Oct 2024 11:02PM
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More power. I seen as many as 12 people required to seperate a stuck mast. Twist, don't pull.

When you get it apart, check the plug in the top. If the ferrule is on the bottom half, a leaking top cap frequently results in a stuck mast joint.

Imax1
QLD, 4814 posts
1 Nov 2024 6:25AM
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12 people ! It would be a skill to get everyone to twist the correct way. I've seen massive confusion with three people.

Motsbane
QLD, 179 posts
3 Nov 2024 7:09PM
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Sorted!
Thanks for your generous ideas!!

Imax1
QLD, 4814 posts
4 Nov 2024 6:31AM
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Motsbane said..
Sorted!
Thanks for your generous ideas!!


How did you get it apart .?

Motsbane
QLD, 179 posts
5 Nov 2024 9:48AM
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Imax1 said..


Motsbane said..
Sorted!
Thanks for your generous ideas!!




How did you get it apart .?



Hi Imax1,
I got a YouTube link from QBN surfer, and press down the joint and keep turning it , when put two end on the benches, I believe it's same principal as shaking on the grass.




When I saw the gap, I felt hope, but still took a while.

Motsbane
QLD, 179 posts
5 Nov 2024 9:49AM
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I actually step one foot on the joint and counting , 1,2,3,4..
then turn over, 1,2,3,4.

mathew
QLD, 2054 posts
6 Nov 2024 10:27PM
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That second photo shows a crack in the mast - dont risk using the mast while it is cracked.

Either cut off that bit, or dont use the mast. It isn't worth the risk of a long swim.

Imax1
QLD, 4814 posts
7 Nov 2024 6:34AM
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mathew said..
That second photo shows a crack in the mast - dont risk using the mast while it is cracked.

Either cut off that bit, or dont use the mast. It isn't worth the risk of a long swim.


Ooohh, that does look a bit dodgy.

Motsbane
QLD, 179 posts
9 Nov 2024 6:45PM
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mathew said..
That second photo shows a crack in the mast - dont risk using the mast while it is cracked.

Either cut off that bit, or dont use the mast. It isn't worth the risk of a long swim.


Hi Mathew,
I did not see any crack, maybe it was a surface wrap done by last owner?
Thanks though!

Imax1
QLD, 4814 posts
10 Nov 2024 5:23PM
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It looks original .A couple things spring to mind..in that pic , is the top bit the male or female part ? If it is the female, is that crack where the male part ends ? If it's the male side , is that where inner tube ends ? I'm scared looking at it. I would be really flexing that mast to see if that split opens up. If your not completely confident of it's integrity, get a new mast. Apart from the danger factor, a breaking mast can trash your sail. Christmas present to yourself

Motsbane
QLD, 179 posts
14 Nov 2024 12:37PM
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Imax1 said..
It looks original .A couple things spring to mind..in that pic , is the top bit the male or female part ? If it is the female, is that crack where the male part ends ? If it's the male side , is that where inner tube ends ? I'm scared looking at it. I would be really flexing that mast to see if that split opens up. If your not completely confident of it's integrity, get a new mast. Apart from the danger factor, a breaking mast can trash your sail. Christmas present to yourself


Thanks! Imax, I take your suggestion.

Regards

yakspeed
VIC, 105 posts
16 Nov 2024 2:13PM
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Not sure why no one has suggested a clamping boom either side of the join and turn different directions

Hydrosurf
221 posts
18 Nov 2024 9:58PM
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Yes double boom is the only I have gotten one apart

Motsbane
QLD, 179 posts
28 Nov 2024 9:55AM
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yakspeed said..
Not sure why no one has suggested a clamping boom either side of the join and turn different directions


I used 4 booms, means I used 4 clamps together, one direction for 2, didn't work.

billekrub
128 posts
30 Nov 2024 9:49AM
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It helps to wet down the joint from one or both ends. If the tip is the male, then I fill from the bottom, mast leaning with tip down, with water and let soak in. This softens the dried salt and sand. You might even see water seeping from the joint. Afterwards flex the mast as suggested and you should also hear some joint noises. You could even add a bit of diluted vinegar, but I have not tried this myself.

Dried salt and sand is crusty and stiff and hard. I have seen a large group of sailors twist together and break the mast before it gives. Soooo, just using force without prep might not be the best.

When sailing in turbulent sandy water, I use electrical tape over the joint, and even reuse it a few times, to prevent the mast joint sticking.

Imax1
QLD, 4814 posts
30 Nov 2024 7:55PM
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billekrub said..
I have seen a large group of sailors twist together and break the mast before it gives.


I have seen a large group of sailors who couldn't twist in the right direction. Probably thinking of the ladies in each port.

olskool
QLD, 2455 posts
2 Dec 2024 1:20PM
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Motsbane said..

yakspeed said..
Not sure why no one has suggested a clamping boom either side of the join and turn different directions



I used 4 booms, means I used 4 clamps together, one direction for 2, didn't work.


Please bring to Me at Mitchelton. I will try.

Motsbane
QLD, 179 posts
5 Dec 2024 4:53AM
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billekrub said..
It helps to wet down the joint from one or both ends. If the tip is the male, then I fill from the bottom, mast leaning with tip down, with water and let soak in. This softens the dried salt and sand. You might even see water seeping from the joint. Afterwards flex the mast as suggested and you should also hear some joint noises. You could even add a bit of diluted vinegar, but I have not tried this myself.

Dried salt and sand is crusty and stiff and hard. I have seen a large group of sailors twist together and break the mast before it gives. Soooo, just using force without prep might not be the best.

When sailing in turbulent sandy water, I use electrical tape over the joint, and even reuse it a few times, to prevent the mast joint sticking.


Appreciated!
I will try next time.
i do use electrician's tape every time.

cheers!

Motsbane
QLD, 179 posts
5 Dec 2024 4:53AM
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Imax1 said..

billekrub said..
I have seen a large group of sailors twist together and break the mast before it gives.



I have seen a large group of sailors who couldn't twist in the right direction. Probably thinking of the ladies in each port.


Lol

Motsbane
QLD, 179 posts
5 Dec 2024 4:54AM
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olskool said..

Motsbane said..


yakspeed said..
Not sure why no one has suggested a clamping boom either side of the join and turn different directions




I used 4 booms, means I used 4 clamps together, one direction for 2, didn't work.



Please bring to Me at Mitchelton. I will try.


Thanks! All sorted!



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