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How to seperate stuck mast please

Created by Motsbane Motsbane  > 9 months ago, 30 Oct 2024
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Motsbane
Motsbane

QLD

179 posts

30 Oct 2024 4:46am
Hi surfers!
I need your help to seperate the mast please. Sunday at the beach, first, we tried to use 2 booms and failed, then other 2 surfers back from water, 4 of us together still can't get it work.
I tried WD 40. Does not work.
i tapped on the post at the beach, nothing.
I heard some way here, I can't find them.
One thing, I always tape the seal between 2 parts, so I am pretty sure it is not sand in it .

PLEASE!

Thanks!
John340
John340

QLD

3373 posts

30 Oct 2024 5:56am
Stand the mast vertically on its head and shake it. This creates movement in the joint which crushes the sand particles stuck in the joint and allows easy separation.
Imax1
Imax1

QLD

4926 posts

30 Oct 2024 2:54pm
^^^^This works great.
Motsbane
Motsbane

QLD

179 posts

31 Oct 2024 4:02am
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John340 said..
Stand the mast vertically on its head and shake it. This creates movement in the joint which crushes the sand particles stuck in the joint and allows easy separation.


Hi John340, thanks! I tried.
Motsbane
Motsbane

QLD

179 posts

31 Oct 2024 4:03am
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Imax1 said..
^^^^This works great.


???
Imax1
Imax1

QLD

4926 posts

31 Oct 2024 6:18am
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Motsbane said..

Imax1 said..
^^^^This works great.



???


What John said above.
Jam the pointy end of the mast into the grass with the big end pointing to the sky . Grab the mast at the join and shake it as violently as you can. Back and forth in a big fast whipping action. Do this for 30 seconds or so at different angles. If that doesn't work , do it again longer and with more vigour. If that doesn't work , at least you've given nearby people something entertaining to look at.
Aus501 Boz
Aus501 Boz

WA

115 posts

31 Oct 2024 6:34am
If all else fails this method works, had a carbon mast stuck, wiggle method didn't work, had 3 blokes either end no joy.
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Motsbane
Motsbane

QLD

179 posts

31 Oct 2024 8:14pm
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Imax1 said..

Motsbane said..


Imax1 said..
^^^^This works great.




???



What John said above.
Jam the pointy end of the mast into the grass with the big end pointing to the sky . Grab the mast at the join and shake it as violently as you can. Back and forth in a big fast whipping action. Do this for 30 seconds or so at different angles. If that doesn't work , do it again longer and with more vigour. If that doesn't work , at least you've given nearby people something entertaining to look at.


Got it!!
Thanks!
Motsbane
Motsbane

QLD

179 posts

31 Oct 2024 8:16pm
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Aus501 Boz said..
If all else fails this method works, had a carbon mast stuck, wiggle method didn't work, had 3 blokes either end no joy.
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Thank you!
jdfoils
jdfoils

435 posts

31 Oct 2024 11:02pm
More power. I seen as many as 12 people required to seperate a stuck mast. Twist, don't pull.

When you get it apart, check the plug in the top. If the ferrule is on the bottom half, a leaking top cap frequently results in a stuck mast joint.
Imax1
Imax1

QLD

4926 posts

1 Nov 2024 6:25am
12 people ! It would be a skill to get everyone to twist the correct way. I've seen massive confusion with three people.
Motsbane
Motsbane

QLD

179 posts

3 Nov 2024 7:09pm
Sorted!
Thanks for your generous ideas!!
Imax1
Imax1

QLD

4926 posts

4 Nov 2024 6:31am
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Motsbane said..
Sorted!
Thanks for your generous ideas!!


How did you get it apart .?
Motsbane
Motsbane

QLD

179 posts

5 Nov 2024 9:48am
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Imax1 said..


Motsbane said..
Sorted!
Thanks for your generous ideas!!




How did you get it apart .?



Hi Imax1,
I got a YouTube link from QBN surfer, and press down the joint and keep turning it , when put two end on the benches, I believe it's same principal as shaking on the grass.




When I saw the gap, I felt hope, but still took a while.
Motsbane
Motsbane

QLD

179 posts

5 Nov 2024 9:49am
I actually step one foot on the joint and counting , 1,2,3,4..
then turn over, 1,2,3,4.
mathew
mathew

QLD

2142 posts

6 Nov 2024 10:27pm
That second photo shows a crack in the mast - dont risk using the mast while it is cracked.

Either cut off that bit, or dont use the mast. It isn't worth the risk of a long swim.
Imax1
Imax1

QLD

4926 posts

7 Nov 2024 6:34am
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mathew said..
That second photo shows a crack in the mast - dont risk using the mast while it is cracked.

Either cut off that bit, or dont use the mast. It isn't worth the risk of a long swim.


Ooohh, that does look a bit dodgy.
Motsbane
Motsbane

QLD

179 posts

9 Nov 2024 6:45pm
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mathew said..
That second photo shows a crack in the mast - dont risk using the mast while it is cracked.

Either cut off that bit, or dont use the mast. It isn't worth the risk of a long swim.


Hi Mathew,
I did not see any crack, maybe it was a surface wrap done by last owner?
Thanks though!
Imax1
Imax1

QLD

4926 posts

10 Nov 2024 5:23pm
It looks original .A couple things spring to mind..in that pic , is the top bit the male or female part ? If it is the female, is that crack where the male part ends ? If it's the male side , is that where inner tube ends ? I'm scared looking at it. I would be really flexing that mast to see if that split opens up. If your not completely confident of it's integrity, get a new mast. Apart from the danger factor, a breaking mast can trash your sail. Christmas present to yourself
Motsbane
Motsbane

QLD

179 posts

14 Nov 2024 12:37pm
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Imax1 said..
It looks original .A couple things spring to mind..in that pic , is the top bit the male or female part ? If it is the female, is that crack where the male part ends ? If it's the male side , is that where inner tube ends ? I'm scared looking at it. I would be really flexing that mast to see if that split opens up. If your not completely confident of it's integrity, get a new mast. Apart from the danger factor, a breaking mast can trash your sail. Christmas present to yourself


Thanks! Imax, I take your suggestion.

Regards
yakspeed
yakspeed

VIC

105 posts

16 Nov 2024 2:13pm
Not sure why no one has suggested a clamping boom either side of the join and turn different directions
Hydrosurf
Hydrosurf

269 posts

18 Nov 2024 9:58pm
Yes double boom is the only I have gotten one apart
Motsbane
Motsbane

QLD

179 posts

28 Nov 2024 9:55am
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yakspeed said..
Not sure why no one has suggested a clamping boom either side of the join and turn different directions


I used 4 booms, means I used 4 clamps together, one direction for 2, didn't work.
billekrub
billekrub

128 posts

30 Nov 2024 9:49am
It helps to wet down the joint from one or both ends. If the tip is the male, then I fill from the bottom, mast leaning with tip down, with water and let soak in. This softens the dried salt and sand. You might even see water seeping from the joint. Afterwards flex the mast as suggested and you should also hear some joint noises. You could even add a bit of diluted vinegar, but I have not tried this myself.

Dried salt and sand is crusty and stiff and hard. I have seen a large group of sailors twist together and break the mast before it gives. Soooo, just using force without prep might not be the best.

When sailing in turbulent sandy water, I use electrical tape over the joint, and even reuse it a few times, to prevent the mast joint sticking.
Imax1
Imax1

QLD

4926 posts

30 Nov 2024 7:55pm
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billekrub said..
I have seen a large group of sailors twist together and break the mast before it gives.


I have seen a large group of sailors who couldn't twist in the right direction. Probably thinking of the ladies in each port.
olskool
olskool

QLD

2459 posts

2 Dec 2024 1:20pm
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Motsbane said..

yakspeed said..
Not sure why no one has suggested a clamping boom either side of the join and turn different directions



I used 4 booms, means I used 4 clamps together, one direction for 2, didn't work.


Please bring to Me at Mitchelton. I will try.
Motsbane
Motsbane

QLD

179 posts

5 Dec 2024 4:53am
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billekrub said..
It helps to wet down the joint from one or both ends. If the tip is the male, then I fill from the bottom, mast leaning with tip down, with water and let soak in. This softens the dried salt and sand. You might even see water seeping from the joint. Afterwards flex the mast as suggested and you should also hear some joint noises. You could even add a bit of diluted vinegar, but I have not tried this myself.

Dried salt and sand is crusty and stiff and hard. I have seen a large group of sailors twist together and break the mast before it gives. Soooo, just using force without prep might not be the best.

When sailing in turbulent sandy water, I use electrical tape over the joint, and even reuse it a few times, to prevent the mast joint sticking.


Appreciated!
I will try next time.
i do use electrician's tape every time.

cheers!
Motsbane
Motsbane

QLD

179 posts

5 Dec 2024 4:53am
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Imax1 said..

billekrub said..
I have seen a large group of sailors twist together and break the mast before it gives.



I have seen a large group of sailors who couldn't twist in the right direction. Probably thinking of the ladies in each port.


Lol
Motsbane
Motsbane

QLD

179 posts

5 Dec 2024 4:54am
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olskool said..

Motsbane said..


yakspeed said..
Not sure why no one has suggested a clamping boom either side of the join and turn different directions




I used 4 booms, means I used 4 clamps together, one direction for 2, didn't work.



Please bring to Me at Mitchelton. I will try.


Thanks! All sorted!
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