Recipe.
Ingredients,
dead flat water,
wide board,
short fin.

Enter gybe, with a smoothly increasing pressure on the rail, when the fin starts to leave the water, and the tail starts to slide, hold the pressure there. You're now getting most of the centrifugal resistance from the rail.
This increases rate of turn dramatically and is loads of fun!!!!
If you get tooo enthusiastic though, fin and rail will loose their grip, and the board disappears from under you!

Possibly other people have been doing this for ages, but my team have only just discovered it, since using delta style fins to get into smooth weedy water.
Does this type of gybe have a name?

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decrepit said..
Recipe.
Ingredients,
dead flat water,
wide board,
short fin.

Enter gybe, with a smoothly increasing pressure on the rail, when the fin starts to leave the water, and the tail starts to slide, hold the pressure there. You're now getting most of the centrifugal resistance from the rail.
This increases rate of turn dramatically and is loads of fun!!!!
If you get tooo enthusiastic though, fin and rail will loose their grip, and the board disappears from under you!

Possibly other people have been doing this for ages, but my team have only just discovered it, since using delta style fins to get into smooth weedy water.
Does this type of gybe have a name?

I like Stroppo's term: Power Slide, but Rail Slide is probably a better description.

Talked to strop in the rain while we waited for wind that didn't come. And I agree with him, it feels like accelerating around a gravel corner in a rear wheel drive car.

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decrepit said..
Talked to strop in the rain while we waited for wind that didn't come. And I agree with him, it feels like accelerating around a gravel corner in a rear wheel drive car.

Don't know why you are so amazed, this is how I gybe 99.9% of the time, particularly the part below, which is normal......isn't it?
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If you get tooo enthusiastic though, fin and rail will loose their grip, and the board disappears from under you
That's standard for me

Mineral, No what is amazing is there was a guy down here yesterday who was visiting from up on the Pinnaroo patch who had managed thus far avoiding being shanghaied into the Pinners mob. Your reputation is under threat here Mineral - you had better sort this guy out before the word gets out that you are getting soft.

I'd think that on'ce you've initiated the gybe, most powered gybes are driven by the inside rail. I guess in really wide boards I can see burying the rail might expose the fin, but despite really leaning it over, my tail end never slides out, so this slippy thing has me intrigued. Footage plz!

This is a pic of Stroppo on a Delta ( taken by Snides last summer) and you can see the Delta is only just hanging on! I think it's only a 18cm fin from memory. A little more back foot at this point gets the power slide happening. I think it a product of the shortness of the fins (plus all the stuff Decrep said) that you can get it to work - my guess is the freestylers probably do it all the time. I am still concentrating too much on getting my gybe around to really pay attention to the finer details on what is happening, other than its good fun??

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fangman said.. other than its good fun??

There's no finer reason in my book!

That board don't look any wider than my Tabou, so next northerly (goes pretty flat where i sail) I might try and under-fin it and see if I too can pull a Stroppo...

Not sure about that front arm though, is that part of the technique!?

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Trousers said..

fangman said.. other than its good fun??

There's no finer reason in my book!

That board don't look any wider than my Tabou, so next northerly (goes pretty flat where i sail) I might try and under-fin it and see if I too can pull a Stroppo...

Not sure about that front arm though, is that part of the technique!?

Methinks only Stroppo can pull a Stroppo

Looking at that track, I'm sure he's either sliding or has just slid, the direction the board's travelling doesn't quite line up with the curve of the track behind him. And that fin isn't doing much good.
Possibly once the fin is completely out of the water, that's when you loose it, some video would be great to do a proper analysis of just what's happening.

I don't think the rig plays much part in this, so I doubt Strop's arm has any bearing on the slide, it's all rail pressure.

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azymuth said..
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Methinks only Stroppo can pull a Stroppo

Well nobody could disagree with that!!!
But it's not that hard to do a rail slide, with a short delta style fin and a wide-ish board.
The hardest part is not pushing it too far!

I am sure he would have had that front arm out straight earlier in the gybe.
He does look like he's just posing for the photo, and having great fun!

He may be preparing to flip the rig?

I think we need Stroppo to talk us through it...

I was preparing to spay Snides but not intending to wet his camera sorry Snides and your right Mike on the track the board did get loose for a very short time as i was finding the pressure point of the fin that's a common thing to do whether your on the fin in a straight line or wave sailing or gybing!

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stroppo said..
I was preparing to spay Snides ....

Now thats a Loreena Bobbit type typo!!

R!!!!!!!!!

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fangman said..

stroppo said..
I was preparing to spay Snides ....

Now thats a Loreena Bobbit type typo!!

hahahahahahahahahaha

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fangman said..

stroppo said..
I was preparing to spay Snides ....

Now thats a Loreena Bobbit type typo!!

being a vet the possibility of a typo didn't occur to me!

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fangman said..
This is a pic of Stroppo on a Delta ( taken by Snides last summer) and you can see the Delta is only just hanging on! I think it's only a 18cm fin from memory. A little more back foot at this point gets the power slide happening. I think it a product of the shortness of the fins (plus all the stuff Decrep said) that you can get it to work - my guess is the freestylers probably do it all the time. I am still concentrating too much on getting my gybe around to really pay attention to the finer details on what is happening, other than its good fun??

im always up for a good 'spaying' !!

I saw the young strop mobile coming from afar
and knew what he had in store for me
def a show boat gybe and not his normal efficient
fast gybe.

Superb photo Snides!