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kymo_7
kymo_7

SA

31 posts

30 Dec 2008 10:57pm
i have changed from an old F2 sputnik 79lt (2.7m) to a 106 JP (2.4m) super X about 12mths ago and find it hard to get much weight on my front foot. not sure if its the shorter board, it almost feels like coming out of the strap. the mast track is about 3/4 the way to the back. anyone had this trouble? and how do i fix it ? i feel very comfy on the F2 but not so on the JP.
hardie
hardie

WA

4129 posts

30 Dec 2008 9:31pm
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kymo_7 said...

i have changed from an old F2 sputnik 79lt (2.7m) to a 106 JP (2.4m) super X about 12mths ago and find it hard to get much weight on my front foot. not sure if its the shorter board, it almost feels like coming out of the strap. the mast track is about 3/4 the way to the back. anyone had this trouble? and how do i fix it ? i feel very comfy on the F2 but not so on the JP.



I can say that I have experienced that recently a few times, not sure why it's happening either? I've made adjustments but can't say exactly what, other than consciously trying to gfet that foot in. Not much help, but you are not alone.
elmo
elmo

WA

8879 posts

30 Dec 2008 9:48pm
Check your Boom height,

to high up will unload your front foot
Waiting4wind
Waiting4wind

NSW

1871 posts

30 Dec 2008 11:51pm
Move your mast track forward, try centre position or a little bit in front, this should move some weight onto your front foot. Dropping the boom down will have the same effect.
drjukka
drjukka

QLD

258 posts

30 Dec 2008 11:12pm
I've had a similar problem when I sail my Naish Stealth (one of the older models).

I would be be sailing along and my front foot just keeps getting knocked, shaken out of the front the strap. I just cant put pressure on the front foot. (cannot get comfortable)

The solution I have found is to raise boom height (not much - 1-2 cm) and increasing harness length - Ive gone from 24" to 28".

Also I have changed fins - more swept fin such as a C3 venom also seems to help.

- J
mkseven
mkseven

QLD

2315 posts

30 Dec 2008 11:23pm
Certainly a symptom of the wide board era. Stances seem a bit wider now than they used to be. Normal is move track forward a bit, drop your boom or lengthen you're lines. Some boards tend to rely alot off back foot and instead of weighting front foot pulling up alot.

Justin your extra 4 inches of line probably made up for you're boom a bit higher and let you come in over the board a bit more too. I agree that fins also can reduce this problem, bit more rake or something a bit smaller where you aren't weighting the back foot so much.
drjukka
drjukka

QLD

258 posts

31 Dec 2008 8:25am
Mark,

I found dropping the boom - with same length lines made the problem worse. Adjusting mast track position did nothing for me either.

I think the longer lines allow me to twist my stance a little bot more allow more lean into the front strap.

Agree with MK7 on the wider board syndrome also being part of the problem - but I was also suffering this problem on a 50cm wide board.

- J
jp747
jp747

1553 posts

31 Dec 2008 6:37pm
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elmo said...

Check your Boom height,

to high up will unload your front foot


can you rephrase that again elmo just for me i've been trying to move boom higher than what i was used to all these years..i don't know if you've noticed Naish's stance and boom very low but i guess that was old school but he still is fast!
Waiting4wind
Waiting4wind

NSW

1871 posts

31 Dec 2008 10:36pm
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jp747 said...

elmo said...

Check your Boom height,

to high up will unload your front foot


can you rephrase that again elmo just for me i've been trying to move boom higher than what i was used to all these years..i don't know if you've noticed Naish's stance and boom very low but i guess that was old school but he still is fast!


What he was saying is that raising the boom will take the weight of your front foot, making it lighter or harder to stay in the strap. This will also allow the board to bounce around more in chop.

I usually try to get my boom as high up and mast track back as far I can to unstick the board for speed. When I get to the point where my front foot becomes light, I stop. I can adjust the balance by a combination of boom height and track position. I also find that if the sail is flatter (less power) then it's harder to load the front foot. This seems to work for all of my boards but they're all short and wide.

From memory when I had my Super X 116 the best track position seem to be half way or a little behind if the water was smoother. The Super X (pro ed) can get quite slappy in chop if you don't drive off the fin and keep the nose pinned down. Fast board though.
jp747
jp747

1553 posts

1 Jan 2009 10:36am
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Waiting4wind said...

jp747 said...

elmo said...

Check your Boom height,

to high up will unload your front foot


can you rephrase that again elmo just for me i've been trying to move boom higher than what i was used to all these years..i don't know if you've noticed Naish's stance and boom very low but i guess that was old school but he still is fast!


What he was saying is that raising the boom will take the weight of your front foot, making it lighter or harder to stay in the strap. This will also allow the board to bounce around more in chop.

I usually try to get my boom as high up and mast track back as far I can to unstick the board for speed. When I get to the point where my front foot becomes light, I stop. I can adjust the balance by a combination of boom height and track position. I also find that if the sail is flatter (less power) then it's harder to load the front foot. This seems to work for all of my boards but they're all short and wide.

From memory when I had my Super X 116 the best track position seem to be half way or a little behind if the water was smoother. The Super X (pro ed) can get quite slappy in chop if you don't drive off the fin and keep the nose pinned down. Fast board though.


i guess the keyword i missed was 'unload' which i presumed to be straight and hardto really drive the nose at a downwind direction or put more weight..totally the opposite W4Wind
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