First off, thanks to Yoyo for his considerable time and effort in maintaining this over the past few years.

In chatting yesterday at the Crasher Cup Fizzer, it was suggested that the WWA Website would be a good place to continue this record. Lao Shi has kindly offered to administer this record, on the proviso that tracks are emailed to him for checking and inclusion, rather than he, as Yoyo did, scouring the GPSTC website etc for data.

I am suggesting the table be based on the best ten second run in WA waters, by a sailor of any origin. So it's a record for WA waters, not WA sailors, and it's a single ten second run, rather than two seconds, which is possibly a bit short to be entirely accurate.

The alternatives would be the traditional 500m, as per the world record, the 5 x 10 sec, or leave it at 2 seconds. I think 10 sec works best as there are more spots in WA where a good 10 may be possible, whereas 500 is not (Pt Walter and Woodies spring to mind).

KA72 also spits out your best 10 sec so it's easy to do.

Thoughts / suggestions?

I like best 10sec run, simple, you've covered over 200m, pretty accurate

I will start to assemble a table to be placed on the WWA website.
Please send your tracks in .sbn format (where possible (GT11/31 or .gpx garmin)

This table is for speeds by any sailor in WA waters.

All non-doppler speeds will be clearly marked.

send to dville123456 at yahoo dot com

Please include name (or alias) equipment details, location and if posted on GPSS or GPSTC a link to the post.

From a blow ins point of view 10sec sounds good. Sending files to Mark is the go as we'd only do that with an improvement.

Does the table start Jan 1st 2011 or since GPSTC started like Yoyo's table had before ?

Hey Firie,
The idea is for a historical table so send us ya best WA track.
We discussed an idea to use 500m to allow data from pre GPS competitions to be included but it is a lot more difficult to find a 500m spot.

The table would be for all time so dig out your best 10 sec and fire it off to Lao Shi.

The 40 knot club is going to be pretty elite at this stage; only three members I think; Slowy, Dan & 25.

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lao shi said...

Hey Firie,
The idea is for a historical table so send us ya best WA track.

Will do, someones got to prop the top up from the bottom

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recycle said...

over 40 10 sec by any chance Recycle?

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recycle said...

...OK, sounds like 4 members!

10 Sec idea is good as it brings Safety Bay into play, allready fired off my best track to Lao Shi,

Not difficult to find my best 10 sec track, it's from my last session!
I'll send it to you Mark.

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AUS1111 said...

recycle said...

...OK, sounds like 4 members!

Right, 5 members then

Nice work Adam L!

www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/Gps/Data-from-2-GPS-units/?page=-2#lastpost

Following on from this thread

Do people want me to include the unit used in the ranking?
I will be using a single file unless people wish to supply 2.

Updated http://windsurfingwa.org.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=144:wa-water-10-sec-speed-table&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=41

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lao shi said...

Do people want me to include the unit used in the ranking?

Na, but if the file sent in has Doppler use it, no one at the pointy end will have a trackpoint only device.

But as Chris said maybe the date ?

Love your work Mark
Firie I am in there to send you further up the table. think of me as an extra in a cast of stars

Interesting there are two entries in there using the very same sail - (2010 5.7 Koncept) Must be a good one!

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evets said...

Love your work Mark
Firie I am in there to send you further up the table. think of me as an extra in a cast of stars

Na Steve, we stand shoulder to shoulder to prop up the rest

I think I need to be deleted from the list as I cant produce the file, dilutes the list and leaves loopholes open Teach me for not doing regular back-ups on my external hard-drive which I specifically bought for hard=drive failure but only bothered to do 2 back-ups in 2 years Then hard-drive failed

Who votes to keep Hardie's speed?
I think we should give him the benefit of the doubt as it took him so bloody long to get it

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I think we should give him the benefit of the doubt as it took him so bloody long to get it

+1

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Updated http://windsurfingwa.org.au/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=144:wa-water-10-sec-speed-table&catid=1:latest-news&Itemid=41

Now includes Dan's 43.5.

And Slowboat's 43.1

Ok I think the top 5 are sorted. Any other submissions?

Here is Yoyo's last update (I think) in March of the 2 sec table
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/Gps/WA-Speed-Table-30-March-2010/?SearchTerms=speed

RANK..RIDER......GPS.2sec....LOCATION.........DATE.........SAIL.......BOARD........FIN

1.....Slowboat......45.04.......Pt Walter........02.02.2010......Pryde RSR 6.2....CA SP 53.....CLKA 23

2.....Dan.............44.38.......Pt Walter.........21.09.2008.....Severne CR 5.6...*Sonic W52..Falcon F1 26

3.....Lao shi......42.74.......Pt Walter.........30.01.2010........N.Warp 5.7.......*50mod........Elmo Weed24

4.....25...............42.41.......Pt Walter........02.02.2010.....KA.Kon.5.7......CA 47........Falcon F1 26 fin

5.....ChrisA..........41.30.......Pt walter........02.02.2010........Nor Warp 5.7......Manta 49....LockwoodKA 23

6....Brayden.........41.25.......Melville..........02.02.2010.......Pryde RSR 6.2.....JP SP 45......JP24.

7.....Hardie..........40.86........Yoyo's...........10.09.2009........Vapor 5.5..........MissleS.......C3 Venom26

8.....JohnN...........40.84.......Hardies..........30.01.2010........PrydeRSR 5.4......* Sonic w52.... NortecWeed

9.....AdamL..........40.67.....Hardie's.........06.02.2009.......Pryde RS 5.8...CA SP 50 ..FO weedie

10....Darryl...........40.48.......Pt Walter.......30.01.2010........Maui TR-4 6.6....iSonic86....Choco30

11....Yoyo............40.47........Pt Walter.......03.01.2009.......Severne CR 4.6..Mod237x51..C3 X2/22

12....Crasher.......40.43......Yoyo's........21.05.2009........Maui TR-4 6.3......AB+54 .......26ElmoWeed

13....Pointman.....40.39........Woodies......02.02.2010.........KA Kon 6.4........CA 47......CL/KA 23

14....Tim90...........40.37.......Hardies.........25.12.2008........Pryde RS 5.0.........F2 Missile...Select29

15....Claude.........40.35.......Pt Walter......02.02.2010..........Severne CR 5.9 .... *W49.......SSwing23

16....Elmo............40.21........ Hardie's........02.02.2010......Pryde RSR 5.8..JP SP 54.....Elmo weed 25

17....Snides8.........40.02.......Hardie's.........02.02.2010.......PrydeRSS 5.4........CA SP 40.....drake Weed22

18....MattL......39.95.....Pt Walter....02.02.2010 . (to be confirmed..40.25 seen on dial))

19...FunRider....39.72....Hardie's.....04.03.2010....RSS_5.0..... CA44.........220/40_Special

20....Jesper..........39.68......Pt Walter........02.02.2010.........KA Kon 6.4..........RRD 80.....27 Vector


A few of those are missing send to dville123456 at yahoo dot com

Mark , as you can see Dan was using a 26 Falcon.

As for Hardie, perhaps you can do a pro rata deduction for the 10s based on the average difference between the 2s and 10s of those above him on the table.

Re Hardies file

My GPS card still has files on it back to 2007, I don't delete.
GPSSS would have checked it anyway
Like the GPSTC, it's an honor thing

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Who votes to keep Hardie's speed?
I think we should give him the benefit of the doubt as it took him so bloody long to get it

no i think its dodgy!!!
he should be penalised at least .01 of a knot

I vote against Hardie, he's arrogant, overweight, triple chinned, has man boobs, and not to be trusted....... oops I just realised Hardie is me

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elmo said...

Re Hardies file

My GPS card still has files on it back to 2007, I don't delete.
GPSSS would have checked it anyway
Like the GPSTC, it's an honor thing

Where's your file, muppet of honour?

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elmo said...

Re Hardies file

My GPS card still has files on it back to 2007, I don't delete.
GPSSS would have checked it anyway
Like the GPSTC, it's an honor thing

Where's your file, muppet of honour?

in hiding +500 sessions logged on my computer, TMLHW

One for the data gurus out there.
Is this run ok?


Drop in sats to 6 and jump in HDOP to 3.5. (My realspeed has limits set to 5 and 4)
Doppler and trackpoints seem good and not spiky.

please tell me thats not mine .....

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lao shi said...

One for the data gurus out there.
Is this run ok?

Drop in sats to 6 and jump in HDOP to 3.5. (My realspeed has limits set to 5 and 4)
Doppler and trackpoints seem good and not spiky.

If it was my track, I'd claim it as valid... but then again i probably wouldn't see it as I just leave my realspeed settings as is. Mal knows more about this sort of stuff than I do