Over 70's "Immortals" GPSTC Category

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hardie > 9 months ago, 17 Nov 2020

hardie

4129 posts

17 Nov 2020 6:28am

Apologies first as I try not to be involved in any decision making for the GPSTC. I just want to make a suggestion and see if there is wide consensus on this idea?

I feel its unfair for 70 year olds to be categorized/competing with 60 yo's.

Anyone windsurfing competitively in their 60's is a true Legend, anyone windsurfing competitively in their 70's is the definition of an immortal.

Do people support the category of "Immortals" for over 70's in the GPSTC?

mikey100

QLD

1105 posts

17 Nov 2020 9:03am

Agree... have one in mind locally who is inspirational... and I'm an 'over 60'.

fangman

1906 posts

17 Nov 2020 7:08am

Defo YES from me Hards

decrepit

12802 posts

17 Nov 2020 8:05am

The BIG question here is, if Nebs has the time to make any changes.
I'm sure most of you know how long we've been waiting for the last lot of changes

remery

3709 posts

17 Nov 2020 8:57am

Totally agree.

elmo

8879 posts

17 Nov 2020 9:10am

A bit blasphemous but GOD's, (Grown Older Disgracefully)

LeeD

3939 posts

17 Nov 2020 9:25am

Easy enough to go fast and jibe well.
Much harder to land big jumps repeatedly in one session.

sailquik

VIC

6166 posts

17 Nov 2020 12:48pm

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LeeD said..
Easy enough to go fast and jibe well.
Much harder to land big jumps repeatedly in one session.

You don't participate in the GPSTC so why comment?

The GPSTC does not have a catagory for 'jumps', or how many jumps you can do in a session so what is the relevance of your comment?

With the rapidly ageing demographics of the GPSTC, an over 70 age group makes sense.

decrepit

12802 posts

17 Nov 2020 9:56am

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sailquik said..>>>
With the rapidly ageing demographics of the GPSTC, an over 70 age group makes sense.

That's an angle I hadn't thought of.
I was thinking it was a bit unfair,that when Herby bought this up about 10 years ago he was basically ignored. It wasn't until the campaign for fairer junior divisions, that we got the age filters. From memory, at the time Nebs thought adding more divisions to the site was too hard.

decrepit

12802 posts

17 Nov 2020 9:57am

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elmo said..
A bit blasphemous but GOD's, (Grown Older Disgracefully)

Maybe we can leave this one for the over 80s, it follows on nicely from immortals

LeeD

3939 posts

17 Nov 2020 10:07am

Sorry to barge into your little exclusive group.
Relevance?
70 year olds can still sail fast, most have more time to practice, some have money for newer gear.....than other age groups.
Jumping relevance?
Most 70'ers still can sail pretty well if they stay on and atop the water. No handicap at all.

slugger68

19 posts

17 Nov 2020 10:25am

Lee, did you recently get shown up by an over 70 year old or something? you seem to be very put out about something that has no relevance to you at all.

LeeD

3939 posts

17 Nov 2020 10:48am

Slugger, I'm 71 and 10 months decrepit.

Dezza

NSW

955 posts

17 Nov 2020 1:53pm

Great idea, we should do this to show appreciation and respect to the SUPER legends, 70 and over, I sail with a Fox in that bracket and he regularly kicks the butt of many younger people, particularly distance, speed, and alphas, even when it's freezing cold.
Hope to be sailing in this category myself one day

sailquik

VIC

6166 posts

17 Nov 2020 1:54pm

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LeeD said..
Sorry to barge into your little exclusive group.
Relevance?
70 year olds can still sail fast, most have more time to practice, some have money for newer gear.....than other age groups.
Jumping relevance?
Most 70'ers still can sail pretty well if they stay on and atop the water. No handicap at all.

Apology accepted.

You are welcome to join the GPSTC BTW, just find a USA team to join, or start one with all your sailing buddies, and show is your speed.

decrepit

12802 posts

17 Nov 2020 10:54am

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Lee, the relevance for the GPSTC, is that it's not just about sailing fast. (and you are correct, I had a PB nautical mile this year)
Endurance is a big part of it, especially with the hour and distance divisions. Age has a big bearing on this. In my late 60s I did over 300km in about 10/12hrs, now in mid 70s I'm struggling to do 100kms. Similar story with the hour, high 24kts in late 60s this year could only manage a 21.

sailquik

VIC

6166 posts

17 Nov 2020 1:55pm

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Dezza said..
Great idea, we should do this to show appreciation and respect to the SUPER legends, 70 and over, I sail with a Fox in that bracket and he regularly kicks the butt of many younger people, particularly distance, speed, and alphas, even when it's freezing cold.
Hope to be sailing in this category myself one day

Yeah, I'm aiming for the over 90 age group.

decrepit

12802 posts

17 Nov 2020 10:57am

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LeeD said..
Slugger, I'm 71 and 10 months decrepit.

No you can't be decrepit, I'm decrepit!

LeeD

3939 posts

17 Nov 2020 11:03am

Ok, you are Decrepit.
I'm only injured, aged, arthritis'ed, have 11 pins in my legs, 3 in my fingers, need to go to the bathroom 3 times before leaving the house, and never sleep longer than 4 hours because I have to pee.

decrepit

12802 posts

17 Nov 2020 11:05am

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LeeD said..
Sorry to barge into your little exclusive group.

It's by no means exclusive or little, anybody can join a team, all you need is an approved GPS. Currently there are over 1700 members worldwide

decrepit

12802 posts

17 Nov 2020 11:07am

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LeeD said..
Ok, you are Decrepit.
I'm only injured, aged, arthritis'ed, have 11 pins in my legs, 3 in my fingers, need to go to the bathroom 3 times before leaving the house, and never sleep longer than 4 hours because I have to pee.

I'm about the same, but it's now down to 2hrs between pees, (not a huge problem, but the smelly wetsuit can be embarrassing), but I have no steel in me, (yet fingers crossed)

LeeD

3939 posts

17 Nov 2020 11:15am

How do you get a good night's sleep?
I've been wearing thick wetsuits since 1965, so while I can, it's really hard to pee in the wetsuit. Maybe twice a year.....yuuuck.

Te Hau

495 posts

17 Nov 2020 11:23am

Good idea, the Dutch GPSSS fellas have a category for the ultra old farts

SteveBrown

16 posts

17 Nov 2020 11:24am

And I'm nearly 72 as well and I can land jumps (little ones) all day if I have to. I've been practicing since 1977. After 47 Ironman events I've returned to slalom this year and would love a 70-75 age group like they have in IM triathlon. In fact triathlon goes up to 85-95 nowadays. I can manage 56kmh on a good day, on a board and gybe OK and that's with a history of spinal fusion, 2 collapsed lungs, asthma, 7 broken ribs and a pacemaker! So, let's go!

SteveBrown

16 posts

17 Nov 2020 11:28am

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Te Hau said..
Good idea, the Dutch GPSSS fellas have a category for the ultra old farts

Antoine Albeau 71 to 99...I don't think so!

tbwonder

NSW

735 posts

17 Nov 2020 2:56pm

It is already possible to search GPSTC for rankings by age.
Below are the rankings for 2020 for over 70 year olds.
It would only be a couple of lines of code to make this a preset option.
I looked at over 80, but there are no sessions posted this year.

35 NM Decrepit! are you sure you are over 70?

Stretchy

1045 posts

17 Nov 2020 12:18pm

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elmo said..
A bit blasphemous but GOD's, (Grown Older Disgracefully)

also GOBs? actually maybe not, that seems to apply from 50 onwards

azymuth

2166 posts

17 Nov 2020 12:38pm

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decrepit said..I'm about the same, but it's now down to 2hrs between pees, (not a huge problem, but the smelly wetsuit can be embarrassing), but I have no steel in me, (yet fingers crossed)

Mike - I had a similar problem at night (Nocturia) - making sleep a misery.
After a lot of drug trial and error (on doctor's advice) I've successfully been using Minirin for a year.
Gone from average 6 to 1 or 0 pees a night. Most effective drug I've ever used by far. It's not cheap.
Worth discussing with your doctor maybe

Jetlag

NSW

194 posts

17 Nov 2020 4:25pm

I agree, they have earned their own category !!!

...then perhaps they can also start their own forum to compare ailments

ratz

481 posts

17 Nov 2020 2:21pm

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LeeD said..
Easy enough to go fast and jibe well.
Much harder to land big jumps repeatedly in one session.

oh go away leed
you are a pain in the arse who should just stay quiet.....
flame suit off....

FNQBilly

QLD

111 posts

17 Nov 2020 4:47pm

Wow ?? There really is a divide out there isn't there. Never mind, move on ????

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