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New record attempt boat or thingy

Created by choco choco  > 9 months ago, 23 Dec 2024
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choco
choco

SA

4177 posts

23 Dec 2024 8:06am
These guys are aiming for 80 knots

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Subsonic
Subsonic

WA

3384 posts

23 Dec 2024 5:47am
Things so far are looking unimpressive.


I believe they're aiming to use the same inverted foil concept as sail rocket, but the hull/s already look like they're throwing way too much spray, and a kite is going to be much harder to keep in the correct zone to not just flip the boat.
decrepit
decrepit

WA

12802 posts

23 Dec 2024 8:42am
Not sure what's happening here, are they relying on the kite for direction?
If so not using foils so they may escape the cavitation limitation.
Or they are using super cavitation foils?
Subsonic
Subsonic

WA

3384 posts

23 Dec 2024 11:08am
Not sure if the kite linkage pod is a solid link to the foil or not, in a lot ways it would make sense for it to be, in other ways it wouldn't. Not sure if they're using super cavitating foils or not.

looking at the sail rocket 2 foil design, they ended up with a blunt back to surpass the cavitation wall (super cavitating foil). Maybe they plan on the same design for this one
decrepit
decrepit

WA

12802 posts

23 Dec 2024 11:26am
As I understand it, to go much over 50kts a super cavitating foil is necessary.
But that boat doesn't look like it's sitting on foils, good old fashioned planning hulls. So I think it needs the kite to be pulling in the optimum angle to the wind.
All supposition really.
But unless they have a way around the cavitation problem, I can't see it succeeding.
Subsonic
Subsonic

WA

3384 posts

23 Dec 2024 11:42am
They did have an earlier concept video out some years back (this video is a few months old now too) so reasonably sure they plan to use foil, but not a traditional type foil where it lifts, the foil will actually be holding the boat in the water and counteracting the pull from the kite.


looking at the pods that form the "hull", they're way too big. And keeping a kite that can move around in a number of directions on the perfect counter balance position is going to be a mission. If they can start to get it up to speed, it'll be a fine line between working and blowing up.
kato
kato

VIC

3513 posts

23 Dec 2024 3:50pm
Been following these guys for a while now, they have done 40kts with their training foils in and are just slowly learning about the craft and the kite. The kite launching and retrieving was a big step towards chasing the record, it's a big thing to put into the air safely. Just finished the structure tests after finding a crack in a component and they're now happy it won't fail apart at speed. Next step is go fast foils and increase the wind strength.
Imax1
Imax1

QLD

4926 posts

23 Dec 2024 4:36pm
I'd presume they would have a kite release system when things start to go wrong. But then releasing the kite may violently swing forces the other way. Especially if they are using a reverse foil to counteract the kite pull. It would be amazing to watch.
kato
kato

VIC

3513 posts

23 Dec 2024 5:41pm
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Imax1 said..
I'd presume they would have a kite release system when things start to go wrong. But then releasing the kite may violently swing forces the other way. Especially if they are using a reverse foil to counteract the kite pull. It would be amazing to watch.


Yes, they spent a lot of time on that and launching safely
sailquik
sailquik

VIC

6166 posts

25 Dec 2024 5:42pm
It is my understanding from reading their earlier press releases that they are indeed intending to use 'supercavitating' foils.
Ben1973
Ben1973

1008 posts

29 Dec 2024 5:02am
Anyone using a kite to break the speed record must just really like kites. I can see no other reason for it.
decrepit
decrepit

WA

12802 posts

29 Dec 2024 9:21am
Is it because, an asymmetric kite will head at close to optimum angle by it self. They are certainly better at going downwind.
A sailed craft needs efficient foils to go fast. over 50kts cavitation reduces foil efficiencies.
At slow speeds super-cavitation foils aren't efficient.
So you need one sort of foil to get to 50kts and another sort to go over it.
I have a feeling that Kite driven craft won't be affected as much by this problem.
The kite possibly has enough downwind power to drag the craft to 50kts.
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