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Maui Sails Tr2 mast/cam campatibility question

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sharkbiscuit
sharkbiscuit

820 posts

10 Sep 2010 5:07pm
HI all

I am looking at buying this puppy:

Maui Sails Tr2 - 7.6 metre:

www.seabreeze.com.au/Classifieds/Windsurfing/Sails/~rxm63/Maui-Sails-Tr2-76-metre.aspx?search=Pw%2f8vS3%2bWxOIKLFIpB5CIQ%3d%3d

I have a mauisails 2009 100% 460 SRS RDM mast. Is this sail compatible with my skinny mast ?

I've read that some sail brands come with two sets of cams- one for SDM masts, and the other for RDM cams. Note: I am a numpty in this area, sorry if this is a silly question. This will be my first race sail.

Cheers J
jamesf
jamesf

NSW

1002 posts

11 Sep 2010 8:37am
Hi Jay,

You might want to have a look at this recent post on the Mauisails Forum:

http://www.mauisails.com/forum/viewtopic.php?id=2919

A guy said that he had some success with a 5.9 TR (unsure of the model) on an RDM, however he had to get Barry Spanier to send him a special set of cams and install some spacers. Not sure how this would translate to a bigger sail like a 7.6

Might be worth a try. Alternatively, these sails work fairly well on 75% SDM masts (SRS 75) if you wanted to buy another mast but didnt want to spend the $$ on a 100% model.

Hope this helps,

James
jimbob SA
jimbob SA

SA

1000 posts

11 Sep 2010 10:10am
Hi J, most race sails still run SDM masts execpt for maybe in the smallest sizes, on the maui sails catalogue and website they only run SDM's ,KA supply RDM cams but at an extra cost and also only recomend for smaller sizes.,
Loft sails are the only ones I know off to run RDM on there race sails (blades)
Choco at barmera always runs these and pretty sure he has a 7 metre in buy and sell.
??? why so big in size, I run a 6.7 pryde RS4 as my biggest cam race sail on my 117 litre board and get going easily on the lighter days, are you going to run it on your 115 OES board if so feel free to grab my 6.7 on the longweekend at Beachport for a try.
you will really stuggle if you drop a 7.6 cam sail out the back at north haven and the big luff fills with water, i ALWAYS wear a floatation vest (NP) when i sail in the sea with my cam sails as i have had bad experiences in the past with not being able to fly the sail to water start especially with the never shorter boards when the boom doesn't rest on the tail of the board, they are sweet as on the lake though....see ya in a couple weeks.
choco
choco

SA

4177 posts

11 Sep 2010 11:08am
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jimbob SA said...

Hi J, most race sails still run SDM masts execpt for maybe in the smallest sizes, on the maui sails catalogue and website they only run SDM's ,KA supply RDM cams but at an extra cost and also only recomend for smaller sizes.,
Loft sails are the only ones I know off to run RDM on there race sails (blades)
Choco at barmera always runs these and pretty sure he has a 7 metre in buy and sell.
??? why so big in size, I run a 6.7 pryde RS4 as my biggest cam race sail on my 117 litre board and get going easily on the lighter days, are you going to run it on your 115 OES board if so feel free to grab my 6.7 on the longweekend at Beachport for a try.
you will really stuggle if you drop a 7.6 cam sail out the back at north haven and the big luff fills with water, i ALWAYS wear a floatation vest (NP) when i sail in the sea with my cam sails as i have had bad experiences in the past with not being able to fly the sail to water start especially with the never shorter boards when the boom doesn't rest on the tail of the board, they are sweet as on the lake though....see ya in a couple weeks.


There are a few race sails that run RDMs from sizes 6.3 and down some of which come to mind are Gaastra, Sailworks, KA and Hot sails.
The Loft Blades rig on RDM masts in all sizes, the 2010 Blades can be rigged on either RDM/SDM but you need the bigger cams, for 2011 they will be available with both RDM/SDM cams as well as this the Bico masts offer the best of both worlds starting as RDM then going wider through the middle then back to RDM.
In saying that i've checked out Hamma's smaller Pryde x9 masts and to top section of these are even smaller in diameter than my RDM's .
Bogan speed team
Bogan speed team

SA

407 posts

11 Sep 2010 11:22am
Hi J,

The larger sizes are designed for SDM masts. I use the carbon 75 SDM in my 5.1 tr-4 and it works well - rotates and looks good. I hope to use it at Sandy point and Lake George in the next month

Cheers.
fullmoon
fullmoon

WA

314 posts

11 Sep 2010 10:24am
I've been using a 7.5 Severne Overdrive on a 460 skinny using rdm cams and it rigs fine.They take a bit of patience to do the initial setup but once they are rigged correctly they run just fine.

The only negative is that if you forget to use the rdm for that sail and try to fit a sdm instead it is a total head ....... The thing with cammed sails once the sail is set up its for that mast only. I imagine you will even have to tweak it for a different brand mast the same size and diameter.

Personally I would (have) bite the bullet and use sdm for cammed sails and any issues that could arise shouldn't.Cams can wear out with a lot of use and you then have to chase up another set,a relatively easy job here in WA with Severne. NP flotation vests are worth every cent you pay for them too.
jimbob SA
jimbob SA

SA

1000 posts

11 Sep 2010 1:48pm
Hey J just had a look at it has a long boom at 228, the biggest i run is 205, you will need to make sure you have a stiff enough boom to fit, a boom at full extension has a lot of load in these bigger sizes and a lot a breakages occur, lots of cash to upgrade to carbon for your least used sail. try and borrow a sail around 7.5 for a quick blast at beachport, I think big kyms dad dave has a mauisails about that size.
off to work for me but should be out sailing tommorrow.
sharkbiscuit
sharkbiscuit

820 posts

11 Sep 2010 1:41pm
Hi All

Thanks for your replies. In Adelaide, it's either moderate, or blowing it's racks off. I have four sails, and my most used sail (and biggest) is a 09 Mauisails 6.8m Global (onshore power wave sail). It's an excellent sail. It's baggy, goes up wind really well, but a bit heavy for my liking. This sail is mostly great, but sometimes, it just doesn't have enough mumbo to be planing along comfortably.

At the end of the year, I want to buy a new KA sails rig in the 7.5 or 8m size. Looking at either a Koyote or a Koncept. .. but this is going to be $2000, which I don't want to pay at the moment (I'm about to collect a brand new board next week). So, to get me through the 12 knot days until then, I was thinking about getting a 2nd hand mauisails sail for around the $200-$400 mark that has a bit more power and rigs onto my existing mauisails 100% carbon skinny mast.

After reading your responses, I think getting a race sail is a bad idea. I'm not that good at carve jybes yet, and I sail in ocean. I also don't want to buy another mast.

J
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