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Created by shear tip shear tip  > 9 months ago, 16 Jun 2014
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shear tip
shear tip

NSW

1125 posts

16 Jun 2014 10:55pm
Just googling around (speed sailing maui) and came across this pic. And, hell no, it's not maui, but I was amazed at how smooth the water is.

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Is this The Ray at Southend?

link: dev.windsurfaddicts.com/2012/01/06/jon-white-to-hot-sails-maui/
decrepit
decrepit

WA

12802 posts

16 Jun 2014 9:22pm
No idea where but it sure is nice!
gavnwend
gavnwend

WA

1373 posts

16 Jun 2014 9:25pm
Glassy .speed sailors delight.
stroppo
stroppo

WA

747 posts

16 Jun 2014 10:16pm
Im thinking holland maybe looks real nice like
Mobydisc
Mobydisc

NSW

9029 posts

17 Jun 2014 2:59am
I don't think it's the Ray as no video or photo I've seen from there has a view of what looks like the open sea, or at least a very big bay.
Fredstyles
Fredstyles

86 posts

17 Jun 2014 1:40am
This is West Kirby.
mark62
mark62

509 posts

17 Jun 2014 6:22am
It's my local spot, west kirby. The picture is Jon White, taken at high tide so you can't see the wall. It's super flat at too corner were this picture us taken
But 100 meters further down, we get a bit more chop on the rest of the course. It's know locally of death chop when it really blows.

The first video was taken in 30 knit winds and you can see the coho starting to build. The second video was taken in light 15 to 20 knot winds and it's really flat all the way down the wall.



yoyo
yoyo

WA

1646 posts

17 Jun 2014 2:34pm
Albany is flatter than west Kirby's footpath
T 11
T 11

TAS

811 posts

17 Jun 2014 9:10pm
This would be my all time favourite pics of a flat day, Kaleb and Dave smoking Hrs (27.5 & 26.7) and pbs everywhere


gpsteamchallenge.com.au/sailor_session/show?date=2011-07-08&team=27







izaak
izaak

TAS

2013 posts

17 Jun 2014 9:22pm
Far out I can't wait to get another day like that down the west like that johno! Little henty looks the goods!
gavnwend
gavnwend

WA

1373 posts

17 Jun 2014 8:42pm
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yoyo said...
Albany is flatter than west Kirby's footpath


That spot looks ridiculously flat glassy you guys are in heaven down your way.got a good friend that lives in launceston wait to l tell him about it.
sausage
sausage

QLD

4873 posts

17 Jun 2014 11:09pm
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gavnwend said...
yoyo said...
Albany is flatter than west Kirby's footpath


That spot looks ridiculously flat glassy you guys are in heaven down your way.got a good friend that lives in launceston wait to l tell him about it.


That's gonna be one long road trip
mark62
mark62

509 posts

17 Jun 2014 11:53pm
Henty looks like heaven, West Kirby is no were near as flat as that!

Been meaning to try Roa Island, still not as flat as Henty, but not far off and it has a 3k long reach in very clean air.

fanatic02
fanatic02

NSW

304 posts

18 Jun 2014 5:56am
Harrington nsw is pretty damn flat ,
It just doesn't happen very often
Boombuster
Boombuster

QLD

584 posts

18 Jun 2014 9:50am
Lota Creek only works around Sept to Dec but can be very flat winds can be strong but this day it was around 12 to 14kts you also need low tide.
Windxtasy
Windxtasy

WA

4017 posts

18 Jun 2014 1:11pm
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yoyo said...
Albany is flatter than west Kirby's footpath


Really? I must get down there!
sailquik
sailquik

VIC

6166 posts

18 Jun 2014 3:58pm
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T 11 said...
This would be my all time favourite pics of a flat day, Kaleb and Dave smoking Hrs (27.5 & 26.7) and pbs everywhere


gpsteamchallenge.com.au/sailor_session/show?date=2011-07-08&team=27









Yep. That is sensational!! It reminds me of Sandy Point in the old days, but better!
sailquik
sailquik

VIC

6166 posts

18 Jun 2014 4:20pm
Remember that any place where it is sandbar/wall/reef protected, it is going to be flat with nice laminar wind on a square reach.

When the bank angle gets to 130 to 140 off the wind, these places don't stay so flat. You will always get a significant following chop generated which is bigger as the winds get stronger. I remember being quite shocked at Sandy Point on Big Sunday (Sept. 27) 2009 at the severity of the 'corrugated' chop when I finally managed to hang on long enough to get down the course off the wind. At top speed around 47 knots I thought my board would shatter and my vision was getting blurred. It was like the worst corrugations on an outback road and they felt as hard as concrete at that speed. The wind speed was around 45-50 knots, gusting over 60 and I was literally less than 1.5m from the bank! I have since repeated that speed a few times, but in only around 40 knots of wind the water and the waves generated feel a lot less hostile! Oh, except for the run at Luderitz when the wind went way too broad and I came unstuck going over 30cm chop at 45 knots, simply because the fin was dry between the waves!

The reason why I think Lake George has enormous top speed potential if we ever get SE winds over 35 knots, is that even at 140 off the wind, the water stays really, really flat. That really is a game changer.

I recon Luderitz would be 5+ knots faster straight away if they were able to build in artificial 'weed' beds. I have some ideas about that!
decrepit
decrepit

WA

12802 posts

18 Jun 2014 7:03pm
Andrew, being a surfer from way back, and observing the way waves change direction with water depth, I have a feeling that if there's a sudden drop off at the bank to fairly deep water, then the bottom rising away from the bank. The following chop should curve away from the bank instead of back into it, I think that would make for a more pleasant experience, but possibly not as good as introducing Lake George weed.
sailquik
sailquik

VIC

6166 posts

19 Jun 2014 1:36am
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decrepit said...
Andrew, being a surfer from way back, and observing the way waves change direction with water depth, I have a feeling that if there's a sudden drop off at the bank to fairly deep water, then the bottom rising away from the bank. The following chop should curve away from the bank instead of back into it, I think that would make for a more pleasant experience, but possibly not as good as introducing Lake George weed.



Hmmmm......... in theory I agree you may expect that, but I think the channel would have to be very narrow. In the Luderitz channel,(very narrow! ) there was no sign of that happening. The following chop ran dead square down the channel.

At Sandy we get small ripples running out at about the wind angle but larger waves bending back towards the bank. In super strong winds it's corrugated chop running almost straight with you @ 130, and can be 20cm+ only 1-1.5m from the sand.

At Luderitz, some of the more confident/experienced sailors were staying very close to the windward side of the channel where it was slightly smoother. Not a place I wanted to be in the stronger gusty winds because some fins tended to steer you up in lulls and down in gusts. This is not something I had experienced, or at least noticed at Sandy because the wind is usually a lot less violently gusty. The more raked fins seems to do this more.

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