I have just finished my new 235 x 44cm, 67liters, 4,8 kg speedboard today. Some months ago I asked for a fast rockerline and mr. love was so kind to share the secrets of his love muscle with me. Thank you mr. love!

Why didnt you JUST buy a Carbon Art?

Looks nice!!!

Looks Great mate, I hope it rocks!!!!

Wood duck, yep you could buy a production board but it,s way more fun designing and sailing your own gear.

Looks sweet!

You think he could have done a better job with the paint brush though

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mr love said...

Looks Great mate, I hope it rocks!!!!

Wood duck, yep you could buy a production board but it,s way more fun designing and sailing your own gear.

Sorry. I ment ....why copy a Carbon Art. Just Buy one. I thought it was obvious.

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Wood Duck said...

mr love said...

Looks Great mate, I hope it rocks!!!!

Wood duck, yep you could buy a production board but it,s way more fun designing and sailing your own gear.

Sorry. I ment ....why copy a Carbon Art. Just Buy one. I thought it was obvious.

Full carbon? Less V ? Smaller nose for less tail walk? Longer mast track /further back.? There are lots of reasons.

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Fredstyles said...

I have just finished my new 235 x 44cm, 67liters, 4,8 kg speedboard today. Some months ago I asked for a fast rockerline and mr. love was so kind to share the secrets of his love muscle with me. Thank you mr. love!

great looking board fred i hope you gave it a coat of clear after sanding
other wise it wont be 4,8 kgs for long getting a board to 4.8kgs is a great effort fred, how about a pic of the bottom and a few measurements, eg rocker,how much v, concaves if any
i also finished a board that had a bit of martins influence, a speed/slalom and it came out at 4.8 kgs before pads the layup was 98gram carbon with an extra layer of 98gram saturn weave on the deck with micro balloons as filler
tell me fred are those footstrapps N/P adjustable, they look very light, im also working on makeing some EVA foam strapps that dont absorb water
i've seen your other board's fred, are you manufacturing them

Those are NP Race..have them on my boards, adjustable only via three screw holes,
weight is 405gr set of 4, versus ie 620gr set of 4 Chinook adjustables.
They are light when wet.

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Te Hau said...

Those are NP Race..have them on my boards, adjustable only via three screw holes,
weight is 405gr set of 4, versus ie 620gr set of 4 Chinook adjustables.
They are light when wet.

those straps look light , its a bit discourageing to make a board as light as you can go and the strapps weigh 3/4 kg wet

Looks Very Angry Machine

Great Work

These straps weigh as little as 54gr per footstrap and don't take any water.

Light, durable and look quite nice on most boards!







Enjoy,
Remi

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The Windsurfing Shed said...

These straps weigh as little as 54gr per footstrap and don't take any water.

Light, durable and look quite nice on most boards!







Enjoy,
Remi

i think you have made a sale remi ill send you a PM for the price , ive been looking for those old gorilla grip strapps but these straps look great

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The Windsurfing Shed said...

These straps weigh as little as 54gr per footstrap and don't take any water.

Light, durable and look quite nice on most boards!




Enjoy,
Remi

How many of these footstraps do I need to add to my board to make up for me being about 20kgs overweight?

I don't think I have enough screw holes to fit that many to the board...

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FBRoy said...

The Windsurfing Shed said...

These straps weigh as little as 54gr per footstrap and don't take any water.

Light, durable and look quite nice on most boards!




Enjoy,
Remi

How many of these footstraps do I need to add to my board to make up for me being about 20kgs overweight?

I don't think I have enough screw holes to fit that many to the board...

FBroy maybe someone can come up with some maths = if you have EVA foam footstrapps at 30mm thick x40mm wide by 200mm long x 4 weighing 1/3 the weight of a conventional strap dry, how much extra volume is the EVA foam adding and how much weight per volume are you saving

as for me it doesnt matter cos i weigh in at 75 to 80 kgs, but after saying that im inquisitive and seeing its winter, ill make a few and see what the out come is

I have a couple of sets of the Kovalski pads and they are really good. A bit exy though.

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mr love said...

I have a couple of sets of the Kovalski pads and they are really good. A bit exy though.

a couple of set's wow, so tell me martin in your honest oppinion, do you think the saveing in weight makes a difference

I have got them on my Formula board and on my B&J board. I think for serious Formula and Slalom racing weight is important.
It is interesting that people pay big bucks to get the super lightweight construction on their boards then stick a set chunky wave straps on it that soak up 400 grams of water.
For my level of sailing I doubt it makes any difference whatsoever, but it makes me feel better. Yep , I am a tool!!!!

I have got them on my Formula board and on my B&J board. I think for serious Formula and Slalom racing weight is important.
It is interesting that people pay big bucks to get the super lightweight construction on their boards then stick a set chunky wave straps on it that soak up 400 grams of water.
For my level of sailing I doubt it makes any difference whatsoever, but it makes me feel better. Yep , I am a tool!!!!

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For my level of sailing I doubt it makes any difference whatsoever, but it makes me feel better. Yep , I am a tool!!!!

hey martin for a guy whos done 40+ and at your level if you could save a gram to get 1knt you would go for it and move on to the next level

Thanks for the compliments. Building this board I missed some nice windy days, but somehow I like building my own gear as much as sailing it.

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keef said...
great looking board fred i hope you gave it a coat of clear after sanding
other wise it wont be 4,8 kgs for long getting a board to 4.8kgs is a great effort fred, how about a pic of the bottom and a few measurements, eg rocker,how much v, concaves if any
i also finished a board that had a bit of martins influence, a speed/slalom and it came out at 4.8 kgs before pads the layup was 98gram carbon with an extra layer of 98gram saturn weave on the deck with micro balloons as filler
tell me fred are those footstrapps N/P adjustable, they look very light, im also working on makeing some EVA foam strapps that dont absorb water
i've seen your other board's fred, are you manufacturing them

Hi Keef,

usually I use the same construction for all my boards. The eps core is 13 kg/m3 fully carbon stringer, bottom 5mm corecell and deck 5 mm airex 63.80, 80g/m2 non crimp carbon fabric, clear 2K PU-coating. For trimming purposes I used 5-hole chinook plugs and the long mastbox, all inserted in carbon-reinforced pvc boxes. I bought the NP straps because they were a bargain. Never thought about making my own straps. Nice idea!

The SRL is fully curved, according to the data Martin gave me. Bottom shape is constant flat V with about 2 degrees.

its great to see your useing stringers fred , i'm useing 11kg/m3 and its not easy keeping the rocker on a board around 70lt's (even with a rocker template )
when bagging with out them

Re holding the rocker when building the board, I put a carbon T stringer in my boards and I mainly do it to hold the rocker.
I cut a slot 25mm deep right along the centreline of the poly blank from 100 to 1400 from tail.
I do this slot with a jig saw with a shortened blade.
The T stringer is a strip of CF (woven)150mm wide, wet out on the table, lay along the centre line and then push it down into the slot with the edge of a metal squeegie.
Squeegie the T stringer edges flat ,put on your fabric layer and the pvc on the blank, throw it in the vac bag and the former and you have a rocker which stays put.
Don't use too much vac pressure (I use 0.3 bar) at this stage or you'll get it to de-stress and spring back when its cured and you take the vac pressure off.
My boards with this T stringer seem to hold the rocker very well over time (and there are many,.... most?, which don't)

that sounds like a great idea Te Hauill have to keep that in mind if i ever decide to make another board

That looks dialed as. Nice job. I think it would be an awesome feeling flying down a sand bar on a machine that you have put time and effort into.

awesome looking board, hope fully it gets you going 40+ hey

Nice looking Board, Great Paint job showing the carbon weave effect.

Almost starting my new set of home built boards & its great to hear what others are up to.

Nice board Fred, some questions if you don't mind? Whats the difference between using the corecell or airex (or wood for that matter) are they different densities ? Also whats the footstrap positioning you've used, in the pic looks pretty wide stance. Let us know how she feels on the water mate.

Corecell is rigid and stiff and cheap (relatively) good for bottom. 100 density usually used.
Airex is flexible and forms around corners very easily, great to use but expensive (ie twice the price) 80 density.

Thx for your kind words. Still havent used it while Im dreaming of 40+.

@sailpilot Yes, I am tall and I prefer a wide stance. I cannot add much to what Te Hau already explained about sandwich cores. divinycell H or airex C.70 (former name: Herex) are also very common alternatives to corecell over here. These are sold in flat sheets which are more or less brittle. The airex 63.80 in contrast is a very soft and formable foam with high impact resistance. On wider boards I use it only at the rails, nose and tail, because its lacking stiffness, especially in higher temperatures.