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sailquik
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12 Jun 2018 1:53pm
I just found this in the latest Australia Post catalogue. It appears to be the same as, or virtually identical to the Alcatel Pixie 3 Phones I have been using for GPS-Logit feedback. Locked to Optus network of course, but I don't put the sim in it anyhow for sailing use.

It should wotk with GPS-Logit and other Android gps speed apps. The deal goes to the end of the month.

It's a pretty basic phone and only 3G etc, but ll that does not matter for speed apps. Double check that it has an internal GPS before buying, just in case they have changed the specs.

Mine are great for on the water feedback, but not near good enough for GPS-Teamchallenge posting.

Important: Use a very good waterproof bag!!!


decrepit
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12 Jun 2018 6:01pm
Only a 3,5" display Andrew, doesn't GPSLogit need a 4" display?
sailquik
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12 Jun 2018 8:34pm
Pretty sure my Pixies are 3.5" Mike. I will double-check when I get home. I also have a larger Alcatel Pixie that is 4" I think and it is a tight fit in the H2Oaudio arm bag.
decrepit
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12 Jun 2018 7:12pm
Perhaps I'm thinking of the operating system number, perhaps that needed to be at least 4. Can't trust this old memory anymore.
jimbob SA
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12 Jun 2018 8:57pm
Ha Ha even cheaper for me as my darling wife works for the PO and gets a good discount.
yoyo
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13 Jun 2018 2:35pm
Andrew, I think you told me once you had 4" and 4.5" . Saying the 4" was better for sailing and the 4.5 better as a phone.
I also read that someone who bought the 3.5 found it was missing something we needed. A gps !!
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/Gps/Using-a-cheap-smartphone-and-GPS-Logit?page=1
boardsurfr
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13 Jun 2018 8:21pm
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S018 said..
https://www.gsmarena.com/alcatel_pixi_4_(3_5)-7844.php

if this is the one, it has a GPS


The specs show a screen resolution of 320 x 480 pixels. IIRC, GPSLogit required more than that. I don't know about Windsport Tracker, but the 3x repeated announcements of "last run results" are so annoying that I don't use that app.
sailquik
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14 Jun 2018 9:42am
Yep. Your memory is better than mine YoYo. The ones I have are 4" and a 4.5"

The one I posted is suposed to have a GPS though. The only question is if it has enough screen to run the app.

There is another one that looks like my Pixie 4" in the AP brochure on sale called 'first'. Better specs i think but also pushing the limits on what I consider low cost enough to risk @ $59

OTOH, it is unlocked, so it could be worth getting for use as a spare phone.








Roo
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14 Jun 2018 8:33am
Can be had up here in the good old US of A for $9.99

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Straight-Talk-Alcatel-OneTouch-Pixi-Eclipse-Prepaid-Smartphone-Bundle-Promo-Available/51413952

Happy to get a bunch and mail down to OZ. Daffy can distribute them.

sailquik
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14 Jun 2018 10:42am
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Roo said..
Can be had up here in the good old US of A for $9.99

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Straight-Talk-Alcatel-OneTouch-Pixi-Eclipse-Prepaid-Smartphone-Bundle-Promo-Available/51413952

Happy to get a bunch and mail down to OZ. Daffy can distribute them.





That stuff is amazingly cheap in the USA

Roo, do you have to show ID to buy a phone in the USA or could I just mail order them?
Roo
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14 Jun 2018 10:14am
ID...what's that? You just order them and away you go. Not sure what shipping would be, that's why it's best to do a group buy.
bartontb
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16 Jun 2018 3:34am
I found that the Alcatel OneTouch Evolve2 that I have been using for GPSLogIt doesn't have enough RAM (only 0.5 MB) to run WindSportTracker. Fortunately, was able to snag a couple of Tracfone Samsung Galaxy J3 Luna Pro reconditioned phones for $25 each. These phones have 1.5 MB RAM, support up to 128 GB SD cards, and have a 5" display. The phones may be reconditioned but they look brand new. I'm also pleased with the extra 'elbow room' for running apps and the larger display.
boardsurfr
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16 Jun 2018 5:06am
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bartontb said..
I found that the Alcatel OneTouch Evolve2 that I have been using for GPSLogIt doesn't have enough RAM (only 0.5 MB) to run WindSportTracker. Fortunately, was able to snag a couple of Tracfone Samsung Galaxy J3 Luna Pro reconditioned phones for $25 each. These phones have 1.5 MB RAM, support up to 128 GB SD cards, and have a 5" display. The phones may be reconditioned but they look brand new. I'm also pleased with the extra 'elbow room' for running apps and the larger display.


Nice! The J3 should have USB, so in theory, you could use them with the Drotek Neo-M8 GPS module. I'll try that when I get mine.
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16 Jun 2018 9:36am
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boardsurfr said..
Nice! The J3 should have USB, so in theory, you could use them with the Drotek Neo-M8 GPS module. I'll try that when I get mine.



Peter, not sure from your post whether you are waiting for the GPS module or a J3. The Tracfone J3s are not consistently available since they are reconditioned units. Last I checked the reconditioned units were not available, just the $60 new units. I needed one more phone to dork around with while waiting for my sight to return to normal so bought a reconditioned Tracfone Galaxy J7 Sky Pro for $60. Has 2 MB of RAM and 5.5 inch display. Great for screwing around with UAV (drone) flight simulator and flight restriction apps. Will probably spring for a tablet or dedicated in-controller display when I buy my drone in July - but might be a good backup. Display definitely large enough to easily read GPSLogit numbers.

Question: with GPSLogIt not available on Google Play anymore, is there anyway to move or reinstall this app from one phone to another without going through Google Play? I'm not an android SW developer so this may sound like a silly question. From Manfred's response to me a couple of weeks ago, I'm not sure if GPSLogIt will surface again on Google Play - depends on how many legal hurdles he has to jump to meet the new EU privacy regulations...
yoyo
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16 Jun 2018 2:30pm
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sailquik said..

Roo said..
Can be had up here in the good old US of A for $9.99

https://www.walmart.com/ip/Straight-Talk-Alcatel-OneTouch-Pixi-Eclipse-Prepaid-Smartphone-Bundle-Promo-Available/51413952

Happy to get a bunch and mail down to OZ. Daffy can distribute them.






That stuff is amazingly cheap in the USA

Roo, do you have to show ID to buy a phone in the USA or could I just mail order them?


Andrew, I note when looking at phones from China sometimes they state a particular model does not work in USA but OK for elsewhere. I guess it is to do with carrier band frequency. So it is possible the Walmart Alcatels may not work in Oz as phones. Still be ok as gps and for A$14 hard to beat.
yoyo
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16 Jun 2018 2:33pm
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bartontb said..
Question: with GPSLogIt not available on Google Play anymore, is there anyway to move or reinstall this app from one phone to another without going through Google Play? I'm not an android SW developer so this may sound like a silly question. From Manfred's response to me a couple of weeks ago, I'm not sure if GPSLogIt will surface again on Google Play - depends on how many legal hurdles he has to jump to meet the new EU privacy regulations...


You can use an app called Apk Extractor.
bartontb
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17 Jun 2018 2:31am
Thank you YoYo!

I used Apk Extractor by Coding blocks G. Noida to get the apk file. Installed GPSLogIt on my Galaxy J7 - everything seems to be working as advertised!
choco
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12 Jul 2018 5:11pm
Might grab a pair for cycling and try them out sailing www.dcrainmaker.com/2018/04/everysight-cycling-display.html I wonder if it would work with bluetooth gt31 for display screen?
everysight.com/about-raptor/
sailquik
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12 Jul 2018 6:02pm
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Roo said..
ID...what's that? You just order them and away you go. Not sure what shipping would be, that's why it's best to do a group buy.


Ahh. I was confused as usual. Here, the ID is only nessasary to activate the service (sim card). Sorry.
sailquik
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12 Jul 2018 6:20pm
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choco said..
Might grab a pair for cycling and try them out sailing www.dcrainmaker.com/2018/04/everysight-cycling-display.html I wonder if it would work with bluetooth gt31 for display screen?
everysight.com/about-raptor/


Not bad.

But @ US$499 and only IP55 which is really only lightly "Splashproof" (may survive a light. brief drizzle?), I dont think they would have many takers for windsurfing.

But they have most of the features, that in a truly waterproof package, would be excellent.

Yes, I recon if they have BT, they would probably work with the BGT-31 sending NMEA data, but you may as well use the internal GPS.
yoyo
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30 Aug 2018 4:20pm



These are not bad with GpsLogit as a back up.
Seen in Woolies the other day.
NP RGSD
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Hi all I have a Pixel phone and Im trying to install the gpslogit after downloaded no worries
error App not installed
Any clues thanks
sailquik
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28 Aug 2019 12:03pm
I just noticed that the latest version of GPS-Logit says for Android 8 and up. If you have an older OS, this might be the problem.
yoyo
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28 Aug 2019 9:39pm
Maybe you can get an older version at a non Google site. No guarantee on safety though.
HangOver
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31 Aug 2019 11:51pm
I've had the same problem with the latest version
sailquik
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1 Sep 2019 4:40pm
I just tried to update to this version and got the error message. 'Could not Parse this package' when I went to install it. (admittedly in Android 6)

It might be a faulty APK package. Has anyone managed to install it?
sailquik
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12 Sep 2019 7:59pm
It appears as if the latest version of GPS-Logit is only able to be installed on phones running Android 8 and higher. I tried to install it on my Android 6 phone and it would not install, so I didnt even bother to try on one of my Android 4.4 phones.

This is actually a problem because phones running A8 are usually not that cheap, and I am only prepared to risk a very cheap phone due to the very high danger of water damage and impact damage like this which happened the first time I used this phone Luckily it was only a $25 loss:



For those others, who like me, value the use of GPS-Logit for comprehensive on the water feedback (including speed talk - which I really like), I can report that I have found one 4" screen A8 phone model on special at Australia Post. It is a Telstra Essential Smart, currently on sale for $49, which is not too bad a risk.



There are also a couple of 5" A8 phones available on deals now for a little more, but the 4" ones fit in my excellent H2O Audio waterproof arm bands better.

The 5" ones I found today are the Essential Smart Plus, on sale at Coles for $69:

And the Alcatel 1X also on sale at Coles for $79:

Edit: I Just found the photo upload won't work for me at the moment. I will try again later.
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