Adding being able to jump like this on slalom gear to my bucket list. Taking all tips.

Bucket list also has Lake George, Defi wind, breaking 40 knots, foiling tack and clean forward loop

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thedoor said..

Adding being able to jump like this on slalom gear to my bucket list. Taking all tips.

Bucket list also has Lake George, Defi wind, breaking 40 knots, foiling tack and clean forward loop

That's quite a list! And he is quite a sailor! My bucket list these days is just to feel good enough to be able to go out!!!!

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thedoor said..

Adding being able to jump like this on slalom gear to my bucket list. Taking all tips.

Bucket list also has Lake George, Defi wind, breaking 40 knots, foiling tack and clean forward loop

Lake George is addictive, there is nothing like it for GPS sailing anywhere else in the world.

Here for the jumping tips because mine are hot garbage, regardless of gear

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thedoor said..

Adding being able to jump like this on slalom gear to my bucket list. Taking all tips.

Bucket list also has Lake George, Defi wind, breaking 40 knots, foiling tack and clean forward loop

I'd love to be capable of sailing like that...
You wouldn't want to lose concentration!

Takes skill and good tuning sailing in open water, great video

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choco said..
Takes skill and good tuning, sailing in open water, great video

And a lot younger knees than I've got

Love this video. There's nothing more fun than fast blasting in open (really open) water.
6.2m and 93 litre 60 wide.

That used to be my favourite style of jump, long and low with the board created nice lift (but nowhere near as fast). I remember like it was yesterday when I launched off a small wave at Dutch Inn in the 80s and landed on the back of another for a silky smooth finish. I tried it again a few years ago and just smacked into the face of the second wave for a painful finish.

tips.

some things are similar to jumping w/ bump gear, others different; first off, you're carrying a lot more speed going into the jump so that by itself will give you a lot of projection and hang time even without a ton of height.

* as with B&J, you need to stay sheeted in (it's a bit harder), but it is critical to be unhooked without disturbing the rig before landing (if you value your board and your boom)
* tucking in your back leg in flight is super important since you're going low and far and you're more hiked out over the water (instead of over the board as in B&J)
* let the nose of the board drift downwind slightly for an easier landing, and be sure to pull in your back leg on landing (not super easy to do when pretty hiked out)
* unlike B&J, you don't need to actively do anything. on the contrary, as you go over the ramp instead of trying to keep the board down, just let it fly. that means, don't push down with the front foot much, but also, don't drive off the fin. and don't "load and pop" until you really got it down
* don't go for a very steep ramp or too directly into it. the speed alone will launch you well, so at first go for slightly low ramps and hit them at a diagonal angle. as you progress you can go for steeper ramps or hit them more head-on
* use gear on the small side of things (boards ~63cm or narrower, sails ~6.2 or smaller)

jumping with slalom kit is an unreal rush.
at my home spot on windy but clean B&J days, i love to go on my 5.5 and 55cm board and jump my @$$ off (works on both tacks!). also on GPS days (on 6.2 kit) i often kick off a speed run by heading up and hitting a ramp!

best luck!

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WindFlyer said..
tips.

some things are similar to jumping w/ bump gear, others different; first off, you're carrying a lot more speed going into the jump so that by itself will give you a lot of projection and hang time even without a ton of height.

* as with B&J, you need to stay sheeted in (it's a bit harder), but it is critical to be unhooked without disturbing the rig before landing (if you value your board and your boom)
* tucking in your back leg in flight is super important since you're going low and far and you're more hiked out over the water (instead of over the board as in B&J)
* let the nose of the board drift downwind slightly for an easier landing, and be sure to pull in your back leg on landing (not super easy to do when pretty hiked out)
* unlike B&J, you don't need to actively do anything. on the contrary, as you go over the ramp instead of trying to keep the board down, just let it fly. that means, don't push down with the front foot much, but also, don't drive off the fin. and don't "load and pop" until you really got it down
* don't go for a very steep ramp or too directly into it. the speed alone will launch you well, so at first go for slightly low ramps and hit them at a diagonal angle. as you progress you can go for steeper ramps or hit them more head-on
* use gear on the small side of things (boards ~63cm or narrower, sails ~6.2 or smaller)

jumping with slalom kit is an unreal rush.
at my home spot on windy but clean B&J days, i love to go on my 5.5 and 55cm board and jump my @$$ off (works on both tacks!). also on GPS days (on 6.2 kit) i often kick off a speed run by heading up and hitting a ramp!

best luck!

thank you

The faster you go the higher you jump! Any ramp will do, line it up, bear away to get up to speed and hang on. Speed equals height.

Sail fast, stay dry.
Roo

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thedoor said..

thank you

thank you for posting! that was a fun video to watch.
(the bird at around the three-minute mark made me smile!)

this one should be one of the easiest items of your bucket list to cross;
much less expensive and involved than trips to Lake George and Le Defi (where you could check off forty knots)
and much easier than a foiling tack or a clean front loop

...oh, and the front loop on that video is next level!
love those end-over-end loops;
much less scary to try than the more sideways spin loops
(which i've seen a couple of pros do on slalom gear in nearly flat water... had to pick up my jaw off the floor!)

^^ Really an end over end fwd loop is less scary (easier) ?

I just wish I could jump slalom gear after so long on wave and FSW for some reason slalom stuff just feels planted.

Anton - you're nuts, love the vid

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Mark _australia said..
^^ Really an end over end fwd loop is less scary (easier) ?

to me, anyway.
having the height gave me confidence of clearing it, and made for a slower, less violent rotation.

now a cheese roll...? thanks, but no.

I found jumping with outboard foot straps very difficult. Watching the video it's apparently not!

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remery said..
I found jumping with outboard foot straps very difficult. Watching the video it's apparently not!

loool

Def not anton level, but feeling in control in bumps and 7.1 felt fine when B&J guy was on 4.8

Any time I try a jump, when I land the fin slides out. Would that be because I am not heading downwind enough when you hit the ramp?

Yes bear away more dowwnwind but not too
much or you will get slammed

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thedoor said..

Adding being able to jump like this on slalom gear to my bucket list. Taking all tips.

Bucket list also has Lake George, Defi wind, breaking 40 knots, foiling tack and clean forward loop

Add Albany to the list too.

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Hydrosurf said..
Yes bear away more dowwnwind but not too
much or you will get slammed

Thanks hydrosurf. I'll keep that in mind next time I am out there.

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Hydrosurf said..
Yes bear away more dowwnwind but not too
much or you will get slammed

Thanks hydrosurf. I'll keep that in mind next time I am out there.

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Hydrosurf said..
Yes bear away more dowwnwind but not too
much or you will get slammed

yes.

also pull in (tuck in) with your back leg on the landing (it's easy to push out instead, guaranteeing the washout).

Ok will do. I have also read to extend the front leg and sheet in keeping body tension. Hopefully I can put it all togeather.

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shannon19 said..
Ok will do. I have also read to extend the front leg and sheet in keeping body tension. Hopefully I can put it all togeather.

If you sheet in the nose drops.
If you sheet out the tail drops.
Extend front leg or pull in back leg nose goes off the wind.
Extend back leg or pull in front leg tail goes off the wind

So in short. Pushing your front foot forward and sheeting in whilst your bodyweight is above the board is prob going to lead to endo loop and result in a huge nose dive.

To avoid that.

You need to compress by dropping your bum down towards the tail of the board, hanging under the rig. Getting your weight lower over the tail helps avoid the nose dive. Then extend or retract your front leg to steer upwind or downwind like a waterstart.

Unfortunately while i know that, i cant always do it and have some sad looking nose dives.

Id say someone like anton would just make micro adjustments without needing to even think it through.

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WindFlyer said.

yes.

also pull in (tuck in) with your back leg on the landing (it's easy to push out instead, guaranteeing the washout).

Have a look at an old school video like Tradewinds to see nose first landings in all their glory. I'm stuck in the past and think they look better than all the new-fangled squirrely jumps.

Sounds like I have a lot to learn like normal haha thanks so much! I'll start small

shannon.