I was browsing though the GPS rankings and was startled to find that this craft had better 500m speeds than the best 10 second run!! How could that happen?

Also the, 100m speed and 2 second speed are the same!!



www.gps-icesailing.com/default.aspx?mnu=rankings

Then I calculated that 109 knots is about 51.5 meters per second, or 515 meters in 10 seconds! So the 10 second run is FURTHER than the 10 second run!!

Hooley Dooley!!

To me the interesting thing is that the iceboats and sleds posted on GPS-icesailing/landsailing are slower than the land yachts!

I think it is just a matter of development and opportunity. There are very few days a year when ice conditions and wind line up. Surprisingly, it's probably even worse than for windsurfing!

The most flabbergasting thing of all is why you've earned a red thumb for this post????????????????
Where are people's heads at?
I thought most of the visitors here were reasonably intelligent and mature.
Seems like I could be wrong.

All fixed Mr Quik, and yeh me thinks the same Mike.

I'm not completely suprised to hear it was an ice yacht, but 109 knots!?

That's insane!

I wouldn't know what to do first if I met them, ask for an autograph, or call the men in white coats.

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sailquik said..
I was browsing though the GPS rankings and was startled to find that this craft had better 500m speeds than the best 10 second run!! How could that happen?

Not sure what you are saying here, Andrew, the 500m run speed for the Greenbird landyacht is given in the GPS rankings to three significant figures (108 kts). The best 10 sec run to three significant figures is also 108 kts. Exactly the same.

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Subsonic said...
I'm not completely suprised to hear it was an ice yacht, but 109 knots!?

That's insane!

I wouldn't know what to do first if I met them, ask for an autograph, or call the men in white coats.

Sorry, just saw it's a land yacht

I seem to remember that the 500m run was actually 108.00 Knots. It was not 'rounded'.

Anyhow, in the windsurfing world we are used to 10 second runs being 250-300meters, and significantly faster than our 500m runs.

wow snags!! Love he's speed suit lol!

From World of Windsurf
"New SPEED WORLD RECORD in windsurfing on ice is reached few days ago - impressive 58.98 knots (2 sec). Check out his video from the record session.
rider: Henrik Mård S414."

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KA360 said..
From World of Windsurf
"New SPEED WORLD RECORD in windsurfing on ice is reached few days ago - impressive 58.98 knots (2 sec). Check out his video from the record session.
rider: Henrik Mård S414."

Wow sail is set flat I wonder what a catapult would feel like could be a real "ice breaker"

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choco said..

I wonder what a catapult would feel like could be a real "ice breaker"

Or a bit like an icecream headache.

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KA360 said..
From World of Windsurf
"New SPEED WORLD RECORD in windsurfing on ice is reached few days ago - impressive 58.98 knots (2 sec). Check out his video from the record session.
rider: Henrik M?rd S414."


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While this MAY be the fastest speed reached on a ice windsurfer sled, it is definitely NOT the World Record. The World Record conditions were not met in a number of ways and it can not be validated and ratified. The current Official world record is held by Jeffery Brown of the USA.

www.gps-icesailing.com/default.aspx?mnu=records

Here is one his sessions:

Back on the land yacht thing a mate and I sailed this yacht up to a peak of 83





kph the a few weeks back down at Stanley scary running down wind on a narrow beach with no brakes

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sailquik said..

KA360 said..
From World of Windsurf
"New SPEED WORLD RECORD in windsurfing on ice is reached few days ago - impressive 58.98 knots (2 sec). Check out his video from the record session.
rider: Henrik Mård S414."


//

While this MAY be the fastest speed reached on a ice windsurfer sled, it is definitely NOT the World Record. The World Record conditions were not met in a number of ways and it can not be validated and ratified. The current Official world record is held by Jeffery Brown of the USA.

www.gps-icesailing.com/default.aspx?mnu=records

Here is one his sessions:

Sounds to me like a new world record category is required, e.g. Faster than the "official" world ice sailing speed record (or FTT"O"WISSR RECORD).

Perhaps new FTT"O"WISSR records could be published in the Journal of Irreproducible Results.

Congratulations, Henrik!

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barney831 said..

sailquik said..

KA360 said..
From World of Windsurf
"New SPEED WORLD RECORD in windsurfing on ice is reached few days ago - impressive 58.98 knots (2 sec). Check out his video from the record session.
rider: Henrik M?rd S414."


//

While this MAY be the fastest speed reached on a ice windsurfer sled, it is definitely NOT the World Record. The World Record conditions were not met in a number of ways and it can not be validated and ratified. The current Official world record is held by Jeffery Brown of the USA.

www.gps-icesailing.com/default.aspx?mnu=records

Here is one his sessions:

Sounds to me like a new world record category is required, e.g. Faster than the "official" world ice sailing speed record (or FTT"O"WISSR RECORD).

Perhaps new FTT"O"WISSR records could be published in the Journal of Irreproducible Results.

Congratulations, Henrik!

It has always been the case as long as I can remember that there are claims of faster speeds than existing World Records. It has become more prevalent with the advent of GPS technology.

Two examples: In 1989 we had timing gates set up at Sandy Point that were not approved by the WSSRC as they did not meet their technical and other requirements. It just happened that Mal Wright was recorded by them doing a run of 41.9 knots which was faster than the existing World Record. Of course, that run could not be ratified as the World Record. Fast, but not the World Record.

In 2010, David Trewern called me over one day at Sandy Point and said: "Have a look at my GPS. I think I have just smashed the world Kiting speed record!"
He had speeds over 46 knots on his GPS when the World Record was around 41 knots. After analysis, the figures suggested he had gone significantly faster than the existing World Record, but of course it could not be claimed as such.

One of the main reasons the World GPS Speed Surfing Record Committee (WGPSSRC) was set up was to make official World Records far more accessible to ordinary people. At that time, WSSRC Records were the sole preserve of very the very wealthy (or those sponsored by the very wealthy). Not much has changed today, but the introduction of the Luderitz speed challenge event has closed the gap slightly for those that have the means to attend. On the other hand, in stark contrast, WGPSSRC Records are accessible to just about anyone who has access to a few hundred dollars worth of GPS technology and the ability to follow a few simple procedures outlined in the rules for validation.