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windsurfer one design restoration

Created by Gestalt Gestalt  > 9 months ago, 25 May 2015
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Gestalt
Gestalt

QLD

14722 posts

25 May 2015 7:45pm
have slowly been restoring a modified windsurfer one design I got about 6 or so months back to like new condition. or as new as possible condition.

so far, I've replaced the mast track with a genuine one,
taken a knife to any jagged bits along the rails,
sanded the hull and rails with wet and dry,
glued and set the flaps and added mylar tape along the length,
sprayed he flaps with silicon pray
sanded back the centreboard.
board came with a new fin.

I recently picked up a second hand sail in very good condition and have tidied up the mast with new plugs so the entire setup is working like new.

only thing left to do is to remove the rust stains off the deck.

any ideas. I was thinking bleach? I've read ajax, gumption, clr.

wondering what people have used.
joe windsurf
joe windsurf

1482 posts

25 May 2015 7:11pm
once complete or ready to go - can you do a gear review ??
stroppo
stroppo

WA

747 posts

25 May 2015 7:21pm
Try Ranex rust buster it should not effect the plastic !
Gestalt
Gestalt

QLD

14722 posts

25 May 2015 9:24pm
can confirm that gumption is not going to work.

I've been sailing it since I got it.

review time.

windsurfer one design. - the orginal.



Gestalt
Gestalt

QLD

14722 posts

25 May 2015 9:24pm
thanks stroppo
PKenny
PKenny

SA

242 posts

25 May 2015 9:14pm
Try Septone Drifter Hull and stain Remover. You will need an acid to get rid of the rust stains. And like the above product it shouldn't harm the plastic.
WazzaYotty
WazzaYotty

QLD

302 posts

26 May 2015 1:34am
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stroppo said..
Try Ranex rust buster it should not effect the plastic !



+1 Stroppo's and PKenny's' comments.
Ranex is good...it's a phosphoric acid.
Septone make one too....it's got some oxalic acid as well as the phosphoric.

Worked a treat on my boat to remove rust stains around the stanchion bases and won't touch plastic.
Old toothbrush to work it into the deck..leave it a few minutes and repeat ..I've just been doing it on my epoxy board!!! Looking good so far.
If you use toothbrush, watch your eyes!
Gestalt
Gestalt

QLD

14722 posts

26 May 2015 8:45am
thanks guys,

will swing by bunnings today and see if they have rainex. it's listed on their website so fingers crossed.

if not i'll be at whitworths this week and they've got the septone products..
PKenny
PKenny

SA

242 posts

26 May 2015 8:25am
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WazzaYotty said..

stroppo said..
Try Ranex rust buster it should not effect the plastic !




+1 Stroppo's and PKenny's' comments.
Ranex is good...it's a phosphoric acid.
Septone make one too....it's got some oxalic acid as well as the phosphoric.

Worked a treat on my boat to remove rust stains around the stanchion bases and won't touch plastic.
Old toothbrush to work it into the deck..leave it a few minutes and repeat ..I've just been doing it on my epoxy board!!! Looking good so far.
If you use toothbrush, watch your eyes!


Also good for getting the coffee stains off your teeth.
Gestalt
Gestalt

QLD

14722 posts

26 May 2015 10:24am
I gave the ranex a go and it removed a lot of the rust but left a lot behind as well. I then scrubbed the deck with sugar soap as well. it is looking shiny and white now but I need to hit the rust more.

will try the septone next.
FormulaNova
FormulaNova

WA

15090 posts

26 May 2015 9:09am
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Gestalt said..
I gave the rainex a go and it removed a lot of the rust but left a lot behind as well. I then scrubbed the deck with sugar soap as well. it is looking shiny and white now but I need to hit the rust more.

will try the septone next.


I think Stroppo said 'Ranex', not 'Rainex', in case you bought the wrong stuff.

Gestalt
Gestalt

QLD

14722 posts

26 May 2015 12:09pm
typo is on my part. I bought the right stuff.

tried to edit it so future people don't get the wrong information.
gregwed
gregwed

QLD

556 posts

26 May 2015 2:27pm
Sending you a msg re Septone product I have available
Gestalt
Gestalt

QLD

14722 posts

26 May 2015 2:30pm
cheers greg,

would love to give it a try. i'll give you a call.
NotWal
NotWal

QLD

7435 posts

26 May 2015 6:26pm
Did you try lemon juice and salt?
Mark _australia
Mark _australia

WA

23526 posts

26 May 2015 10:14pm
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Gestalt said..
thanks guys,

will swing by bunnings today and see if they have rainex. it's listed on their website so fingers crossed.

if not i'll be at whitworths this week and they've got the septone products..



Rainex - slippery goop to make your windscreen like a skating rink/ No good for boards

Ranex - rust converter - yes.


Just in case somebody doesn't read the whole thread
Gestalt
Gestalt

QLD

14722 posts

27 May 2015 3:39pm
alrighty,

I hooked up with Greg this morning and "borrowed" his pack of septone. seems like good stuff and has cleaned the board but hasn't removed the rust stains. They are beyond modern chemical warfare!

Mind you the board is now so white I need to put on sunnies to admire it.

I'll give the ranex one more go. Will make up a compac and apply that. (spelling?)

After that it's lemon juice time!

will take to the hull with some 1200grit wet and dry to finish that before applying some hullkote.
genuine
genuine

332 posts

27 May 2015 2:13pm
try toothpaste
fjdoug
fjdoug

ACT

548 posts

27 May 2015 7:56pm
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Gestalt said..


will take to the hull with some 1200grit wet and dry.....



try a small area first, sanding polyethylene might make it furry...
Bone74
Bone74

380 posts

27 May 2015 7:27pm
CLR

calcium lime rust remover
Gestalt
Gestalt

QLD

14722 posts

28 May 2015 10:12am
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fjdoug said..

Gestalt said..


will take to the hull with some 1200grit wet and dry.....




try a small area first, sanding polyethylene might make it furry...


I was probably lucky because I didn't give any thought to furring.

I started with 600grit and a block and hand sanded. that worked ok so I switched to the electric pad sander. last night I hand sanded with 1000 grit as a final run. no furring. as you can imagine that plastic sheen has gone.

I was reading some stuff last night on fixing deep scratches. they suggest a hot knife. have never tried it.

I found this site last night as well.
http://www.surfboardbuilding.com/Repair/One_Design_Fix/one_design_fix.html
Gestalt
Gestalt

QLD

14722 posts

28 May 2015 10:13am
i'll give the clr, and lemon juice a go.

looking at the board this morning I have certainly removed a lot of the staining with what I've done so far. it is actually starting to look pretty good again.
Gestalt
Gestalt

QLD

14722 posts

28 May 2015 5:45pm
I gave the ranex one more go. Left it on for 3 or 4 hours this time and the rust is almost gone now.

Hope it goes faster!
da vecta
da vecta

QLD

2515 posts

29 May 2015 11:49am
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Gestalt said..
i'll give the clr, and lemon juice a go.

looking at the board this morning I have certainly removed a lot of the staining with what I've done so far. it is actually starting to look pretty good again.



You'd better get squeezing buddy ready for the WOD Nationals at RQ 27-29 November 2015. They will be run together with the Raceboards Nationals.
Gestalt
Gestalt

QLD

14722 posts

29 May 2015 12:15pm
thought I might mozy on down to this one.

guess I better start sailing in deep water and get used to running dead downwind in swell.
MikeyS
MikeyS

VIC

1509 posts

29 May 2015 1:07pm
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Gestalt said..

fjdoug said..


Gestalt said..


will take to the hull with some 1200grit wet and dry.....





try a small area first, sanding polyethylene might make it furry...



I was probably lucky because I didn't give any thought to furring.

I started with 600grit and a block and hand sanded. that worked ok so I switched to the electric pad sander. last night I hand sanded with 1000 grit as a final run. no furring. as you can imagine that plastic sheen has gone.

I was reading some stuff last night on fixing deep scratches. they suggest a hot knife. have never tried it.

I found this site last night as well.
http://www.surfboardbuilding.com/Repair/One_Design_Fix/one_design_fix.html


Instead of a hot knife, you might want to try a heat gun with a fine nozzle, very carefully of course. I've used one on polyethylene to reduce the appearance of scratches (one of the seven signs of aging, apparently). You would have better heat control over the softening/melting of the polymer. Obviously, test on a less visible area first. If you did get any furring from sanding, waving the heat gun over the furry bits tidies them up. Just like a waxless Brazilian.
Gestalt
Gestalt

QLD

14722 posts

29 May 2015 2:06pm
thanks mikey.

thinking a trip to bunnings may be in order now.
pirrad
pirrad

SA

850 posts

29 May 2015 7:04pm
CLR, my 2 cents worth, that stuff is useless, they should be sued for misleading advertising. On par with the pictured/advertised burgers the fast food chains sell. Recently posted here on a cleaning agent for general grime marks and found the
'Gumption' ants pants.
IBM
IBM

IBM

NSW

15 posts

29 May 2015 8:55pm
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da vecta said..

Gestalt said..
i'll give the clr, and lemon juice a go.

looking at the board this morning I have certainly removed a lot of the staining with what I've done so far. it is actually starting to look pretty good again.




You'd better get squeezing buddy ready for the WOD Nationals at RQ 27-29 November 2015. They will be run together with the Raceboards Nationals.


Is this official
fjdoug
fjdoug

ACT

548 posts

29 May 2015 9:05pm
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IBM said..

da vecta said..

You'd better get squeezing buddy ready for the WOD Nationals at RQ 27-29 November 2015. They will be run together with the Raceboards Nationals.



Is this official




+ 1 ?
grich62
grich62

QLD

676 posts

29 May 2015 10:24pm
go to bcf or bias boating and get some fiberglass hull cleaner make sure you mix with water in strong mixture apply it several times and leave it for 5 minutes each time this will remove rust stains
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