looking for vulcan tips.

tried one yesterday on flat water.

sailing on a broad reach in flat water,

popped the board

got about 90 degree,

then got slammed back first into the water (nice whiplash)

sausage said...

Another 90degrees and you're there

i wonder, is that twice the hurt?

Two biggest tips:

[1] Sheet in to initiate (move the front hand nearer to the mast and move the back hand back down the boom a little). As soon as you initiate throw the clew away with your back hand whilst keeping the front arm straight. Sounds confusing I know, sheet in but throw the clew away. They are two seperate steps but follow them and you will get around.

[2] As soon as you are airborne, violently look backwards over your back shoulder.


Be patient, they take ages to learn. Good luck.

it's impossible....don't bother

Taken from the Ukrainian Freestylers Association handbook - "Sailors over 80kg are not to perform such cool manoeuvres and shall hence be limited to step gybes and sandbank dismount direction changes"

rules are rules

fight the powers that be I say!!

I violently looked at someone who was about to steal my park at Wello today, but that's about as far as that went.

Go Juzzy!

Sail along on a nice reach and then volcan the board. Weight your toeside. By this time you should have completed the volcan!! Sail away switch stance.

whats with the star trek connection (vulcans spocks etc) ?????????

Gestalt said...

thanks guys and please keep the tips coming.

i spent far to long watching everyone else do them.

Not a tip here, but hats off, mate.
Doesn't matter with the falls and all, it's all fun, right?

Alright, here goes. I can land 'em, just not very often...

1) Pick your gear:
I'm 75kg, and I use a 100 litre freestyle of FSW board
A small freestyle fin is going to make life a LOT easier...

2) Sail along on a BEAM reach and get some speed up.

3) Head UPWIND a little from a BEAM reach

4) Prepare for the jump... move your front hand up the boom, and in one smooth move, unhook, bring your weight over the board and POP.
Pop the board out - I don't like chop-hopping, because if there's chop it's going to make the landing much harder. I much prefer this move on dead flat water (Sandy Point). I pop by throwing the boom up rather than jumping the board too much... if you bounce the board repeatedly before jumping you're going to slow down, and speed is your friend here.

5) The moment you're in the air, release your back hand and look backwards. (I don't know about this sheeting in and throwing business - it may work, I've just never tried it). At the same time, draw your front hand aggressively across your body and go for the hand change. The earlier you go for the and change the better. By drawing your front hand across your body you're getting the rotation going. When you go for the pop, really extend your front hand - this will give you much greater rotation when you bring it back towards you and draw your front hand across your body because you've got a greater range of movement.

By doing this, you're also putting your weight over the nose of the board and keep the fin out of the water - if your weight is back, even if you get all the way around, the tail will dig in and you'll go over the back.

6) If you've done all this right, you should be sliding backwards with your hands on the opposite side of the boom. Now all you need to do is worry about sailing away switch, which is ALL about mast-foot pressure...

Hope this helps mate. Seriously, the right gear makes all the difference with this. I tried to learn on a 272 95 litre old-skool board with a wave fin, and spent a long time crashing before trying a Fanatic Skate which made life a hundred times easier. I've never actually hurt myself trying this move, so head more upwind than you are at the moment and hopefully the whiplash effect will be less pronounced.

IMPORTANT TIP: Have your footstraps huge and hoopy - it means you can get out of them in a hurry when you crash. Twisted ankles may result otherwise.

Just by growing the b@lls to give 'em a go you're on your way. It'll take a while and a lot of crashing to get 'em nailed, but the "slippery" feeling when you get the board going backwards is worth it all....

GOOD LUCK!

obviously i can't speak for others and i'm sure they r great tips- personally i don't throw the clew, sheet in, or push away the sail, and don't look behind or anything, but all these things may help you. the trick i find is in the corking of the board to get the right amount of pop (and most of the time you don't need much), leaning forward enough so that your head stays over the mast base, and learning to twist the body, hips, and legs like a cat. Don't jump high with the board which most folk do on early attempts. there really is no need

1. comfortably on the plane stand very upright, put your front hand as close to the mast on the boom as possible before popping, doesn't really matter where the back hand is i find

2. pop, then once popped pull downward and across your body with the old front hand (with slightly bent front arm) which helps pull the nose of the board down and generate some of the board spin, sail spin, and gets the sail back across in front of your body ASAP which is the key, and also keep your head over mast base.

some folk have said they find it best to head down wind slightly and this works for them, but i find i can do them pointing quite high into the wind as well, which is probably because of sussing out the body twisting bit

if i got heaps of speed i only jump around about 100 degrees and the rest just slides around. if i'm only just planing i jump the board around almost the whole 180. obviously the further u head upwind the further u have to jump the board around

practice with the sail standing in the switch stance position on land, pulling against the wind as you would when landed. helps with controlling the exit

the only painfull bit is if you happen to go through the "ankle jarring" stage that i went through. you'll be doing them a flavour if you learn them them on freestyle board first i spent first 6 months trying on waveboard in agony

as far as my footstraps setup - i have them tall but very narrow so the side of my feet are doing all the gripping. i know i go against the grain here, but i personally have my feet tightly wedged into the straps for everything (except pointing upwind) and like to feel like i'm glued to the board. maybe i've just jinxed my ankles saying that

oh and p.s - make sure you try them in both directions right from the start

phew. my longest post in ages

orsm! but apparently it makes flakkas are 72% harder