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difference between flare gybe and pivot gybe

Created by benyip benyip  > 9 months ago, 3 Mar 2014
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benyip
benyip

NSW

76 posts

3 Mar 2014 8:03pm
1. Both step the end of the board
2. Flare gybe uses two feet step on the end, pivot gybe uses one foot..

3 both put weight on the windward rail if the daggerboard is down, or leeward rail otherwise...


I would like to when to use flare gybe and when to use pivot gybe in non planing conditions, thanks

Personally, I found flare gybe a bit unstable, because both foot are at the end of the board longer..

What are your comments on both?
ikw777
ikw777

QLD

2995 posts

3 Mar 2014 8:59pm
The flare gybe often attracts the unwanted attention of the coast guard. Stick with the pivot.
deejay8204
deejay8204

QLD

557 posts

4 Mar 2014 10:04am
The difference.... I cant do either lol
Dr Duck
Dr Duck

SA

450 posts

4 Mar 2014 7:20pm
Are you talking about a longboard with the centreboard down? IMHO the pivot gybe as you have described it would be the routine low-speed turn, the flare gybe is more for fun and allows you to sink the tail even deeper so the board can almost pivot on the spot. The fun part is to see how vertical you can get the board. Also fun to try and stall the gybe and see how long you can hold the board with the nose in the air. In both the weight is on the foot on the outside rail of the board.

I would actually label them the other way around, but what the heck.
benyip
benyip

NSW

76 posts

4 Mar 2014 9:16pm
The name is quite confusing on the internet..I am now confused about what is what

Pivot gybe
Type jem hall pivot gybe in Google. This site does not let me post the link.


Flare gybe with a mixture of other things. She has a very long board
boardsurfr
boardsurfr

WA

2454 posts

5 Mar 2014 2:38am
Don't use the movie above as an example of how to do things. There's plenty of things that are less than perfect. In the jibe she demonstrates, she steps all the way back with both feet, which might make sense on a 12 ft longboard .. but she seems to be on a Techno 293. So she actually has to lean forward towards the rig to control the tail sink.

For a pivot jibe, keep one foot forward and the other back. Shift your weight on the back foot, and lean your head to the back (like someone is pulling your pony tail). That will turn boards like the Techno (and anything shorter) on a dime, with much better stability than if you have both feet right next to each other. Switch your feet when dead downwind, sail out clew first.

The jibe with two feet in the back is mostly for show - and for a good show, the nose should come out a lot more, making it a tail sink where the board points up at least 45 degrees. The stepping back can be useful or even necessary when you are on an old 12-foot race board that is almost impossible to turn through dead downwind.
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