after some advise on a 90-95 ltr bump and jump board.i've got a 74 ltr f2 maui project lined up as my high wind option ,but wouldnt mind picking up something to fill the gap between it and my carve 121.any advice welcome.

RRD or JP FSW

There are some great fanatic freewaves on the buys and sell - from 77l

Ive got a 104 Fanatic freewave in there and its a bargain
(Its the one in the Avatar)

kode 94

http://www.isthmussailboards.com/review_stbd_kode94.asp

www.star-board.com/AutumnWinter2011/news_events/read.php?threadid=11599

95l fanatic freewave, is a super versatile board and good for the waves a well, really good fun maybe not the smoothest board but get the right fin and its a blast, especially with the straps outside, i got one going for cheap...

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jsnfok said...

maybe not the smoothest board

Got to agree with that. Bought the 104 Fanatic Freewave and sailed it a few times but it wasn't for me. Plenty of great reviews for them. I prefer the RRD FSW ride, not so slappy, keeps you happy.

I have a Thommen class x 2008 105L and it's a great board, till now I have tried it in on shore 1,5m and it is very nice, carves smoothly and can make tight turns...Good for B&J but has early planing issues due to low volume in the tail I guess....

The other board that hasn't been mentioned is the Exocet Cross.

All the boards mentioned are good and they each have slightly different strenghts, ie. loosenes, planing, control etc.

You just need to decide what sort of conditions you will mainly sail in and pick the board that will best suit. The the term B&J can be very broad.

yea bump and jump is VERY broad for me it ranges from 'couldnt make it for the wave session today so i sailed the bay', to fully powered up 7.8 weather with mates seeing who can go the fastest...
but some people sail just powered up where as other guys rig bigger to go faster and higher, for me personally i like to powered up for jumping, nice and high

point to consider is are you going against the chop or with big rolling swell, and most of the time you can make your board adapt to the conditions with a little tuning

Pirrad - I have a 2010 Fanatic Freewave 95 litre. 2011 is the same shape. I also have a Starboard Carve 121 and also have a 77 JP Wave board.

The Fanatic Freewave is a great allrounder / in betweener. It comes with a 27 cm freewave fin. I've also got a 23 cm wave and 30 cm cross over fin which changes the performance of the board. Highly recommend it. Happy hunting.

So where do freeride boards come in re B + J performance? I like my 95ltre Tabou Rocket fast + gybes beautifully prob jump well too if the rider could get her act together..[}:)] ..mines 2008. I think the more recent ones have an even smoother ride in chop.

B&J boards are the next step up the strength scale with construction. Generally a touch slower & softer rails/more curved rocker.

It really is a broad category though which has range from slalom boards with heavier construction to down the line waveboards (which can be quite quick). Typically now it'd be a freestyle-wave board.

I sailed the JP Single Fin Thruster heaps on Maui, and loved it.
They make a great B&J board.

Thought i would use this vid to describe the conditions that i want the board for,this vid looks about like the water state that i would sail my carve 121 at around 15kn, [5.8 @15-18kn,6.5 @13-15kn]
When its 20kn+ ,almost twice as choppy,1mtr breaking waves in close to the beach and 1-2 mtr rolling swell once u get out a bit.
Going out is the hardest against the waves/swell [best jump ramps]coming back in can be quite fast sailing over the back of the swell.

I sail in the same sort of conditions and my board of choice is the 93 JP thruster, 20 knots a 5.0 and my 93...super sweet. Comes in a 99 also if you want something a bit bigger.

Pretty impressed with my 2011 Kode94. Quite fast (33 knots at Sandy with a wave fin and sail), very comfy underfoot, no issues through chop etc. unlike my previous Kode which I found quite hard and taxing on the ankles. Seems to have a very good wind range and is a very early planer. IMO 5.5m - 5.2m Wave sail feels about the optimum size for this board but down to 4.7m still really good. 82kg rider.

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mkseven said...

B&J boards are the next step up the strength scale with construction. Generally a touch slower & softer rails/more curved rocker.

It really is a broad category though which has range from slalom boards with heavier construction to down the line waveboards (which can be quite quick). Typically now it'd be a freestyle-wave board.

Pirrad,

Considering such a broad category as mkseven mentions, much depends on your style of sailing and experience. If your main aim is to get air time with some turns and tricks thrown in, then an FSW would probably be the best option. However, if you're more into smokin' speed with big jumps then a fast freeride/slalom style board like a Starboard Futura, Tabou Rocket or Fanatic Hawk might be the go. Only problem with the fast freeride/slalom bump 'n jump boards is that they can be a bit too fast and hectic over bumpy water, whereas an FSW in the volume range you mentioned would be easier to control in the same conditions.

Also worth considering all of the fins you currently have in your quiver since your two current boards use different fin boxes.

I have a fanatic freewave 95 2011. This is my second one having a prior one for 4 years. This is a good board and the current pintail is better than the swallow tail version. I sail it usually from 6.0 to 4.7. It planes early and does everything well. I have a smaller wave board and generally swap boards instead of rigging down. I have sailed since 1978 and if I had one board it would be a free wave. I have had exowaves as well and tried the larger free wave 104 but for my sail range and ocean conditions found it lacked the range. It was good in light wind and flat conditions but not so good in waves. That is my 2 cents.

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Mark _australia said...

RRD or JP FSW

What he said...

I'm after an 85 litre, but will be getting James at Nude (Hoop on here)
to build me one rather than buying a production board.

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GazMan said...

mkseven said...

B&J boards are the next step up the strength scale with construction. Generally a touch slower & softer rails/more curved rocker.

It really is a broad category though which has range from slalom boards with heavier construction to down the line waveboards (which can be quite quick). Typically now it'd be a freestyle-wave board.

Pirrad,

Considering such a broad category as mkseven mentions, much depends on your style of sailing and experience. If your main aim is to get air time with some turns and tricks thrown in, then an FSW would probably be the best option. However, if you're more into smokin' speed with big jumps then a fast freeride/slalom style board like a Starboard Futura, Tabou Rocket or Fanatic Hawk might be the go. Only problem with the fast freeride/slalom bump 'n jump boards is that they can be a bit too fast and hectic over bumpy water, whereas an FSW in the volume range you mentioned would be easier to control in the same conditions.

Also worth considering all of the fins you currently have in your quiver since your two current boards use different fin boxes.

Yep especially if the board is a bit big for the conditions!

The board in the video with the yellowish sail at 1:00 (and blue sail at 2:34, or am I imagining it) looks like a Fanatic Freewave- same graphics as mine which is an 86 l. Great board, but in those sorts of conditions which looks to me around 25kts at times I'd be changing down to my 74 l Acid as the Freewave is a bit to wide and bouncy.