I asked ChatGPT some questions, some interesting design progression ideas came up.

Me - I 'm worried that windsurfing is dying

ai - You're not alone in that concern-windsurfing has definitely faced some challenges over the years. The rise of kitesurfing, wing foiling, and other water sports has drawn people away, and equipment advancements have made those sports more accessible. But windsurfing isn't dead[/i]-it's just evolving.Some positives:Foil windsurfing[/b] is bringing new life to the sport, letting people sail in lighter winds.Freeride and windSUP boards[/b] make it easier for beginners to get into it.Communities and clubs[/b] are still active, especially in places like Maui, the Canary Islands, and parts of Europe.Social media and YouTube[/b] are helping introduce younger generations to the sport.It's not as mainstream as it was in the '80s and '90s, but hardcore windsurfers are keeping it alive.

me - What is the perfect windsurfer design

Ai - The perfect windsurfer[/b] depends on the type of riding you want to do-wave, freeride, racing, freestyle, or foiling. But if we were to design the ultimate all-around, future-proof windsurfer[/b], it would have:

1. Ultra-Light, Versatile Board[/b]Material:[/b] Carbon-fiber with graphene reinforcement for strength and weight reduction.Shape:[/b] Moderate width (75-85 cm) for stability and early planing, with adjustable tail sections for different conditions.Convertible:[/b] Switch between fin mode[/b] for classic windsurfing and foil mode[/b] for light wind performance.Inflatable Option:[/b] A high-performance inflatable version for easy transport.

2. Intelligent Sail & Rig[/b]Material:[/b] Ultra-lightweight Dyneema-reinforced monofilm[/b] with self-tensioning fibers to adjust to wind strength automatically.Self-Adjusting Profile:[/b] Built-in shape-memory tech[/b] that adapts the sail curve to maximize power and stability.Quick Rigging System:[/b] Telescopic mast and boom with snap-on rigging[/b], no downhaul/outhaul hassle.Collapsible Boom & Mast:[/b] Packs into a small, travel-friendly size.

3. Advanced Foil System[/b]Auto-Adjusting Foil:[/b] Changes angle of attack based on speed and weight shift for smoother foiling.Hybrid Design:[/b] Easily switch between fin mode[/b] and foil mode[/b] without tools.High-Lift, Low-Drag Shape:[/b] Allows planing in super light winds while maintaining top-end speed.

4. Smart Tech Integration[/b]Built-in Wind Sensors:[/b] Real-time wind data displayed on a small screen on the boom or in AR goggles.GPS & Ride Tracking:[/b] Logs speed, distance, jumps, and maneuvers for analysis.Haptic Feedback System:[/b] Vibrations in the boom or footstraps to indicate optimal trim, wind shifts, or over-sheeting.

5. Sustainable & Eco-Friendly Construction[/b]Recycled Ocean Plastics & Bio-Resins:[/b] Reducing environmental impact.Solar-Powered Components:[/b] Small solar panels to power wind sensors and GPS.Final Concept:[/b]A one-board, one-rig setup[/b] that covers everything from freeride cruising to foiling and even wave riding[/b]. Easy to rig, easy to transport, and packed with smart tech to make windsurfing smoother, faster, and more accessible.Would you want a windsurfer like this, or do you think something else is missing?

I wonder how much of that came from seabreeze.


i like the way it finished with "Would you want a windsurfer like this, or do you think something else is missing?"

Can't miss an opportunity to add to the collective. Do you think AI is actually the start of the Borg?


Resistance is futile.

Skynet is a real thing. Who the hell thought that was a good name to use on real life stuff

Does Skynet recommend loosening the vent plug after every ride ? Does Skynet tape its mast ? and does it think it's better to wash sails in fresh chlorinated water that still promotes mould , or is mould free sandy salty water better even though it scuffs the panels? Skynet definately invented the ratchety mast extension.

I used up all of my free questions

Tangential, and mildly amusing, is something I came across today. There is an AI code generator on the market called "Windsurf" which will put plenty of website designers out of work (so more sailing for them). It seems to be a tool that you feed a screen grab of a website to and it will come up with the code required to mirror it or to modify it into a new site.

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Gestalt said..
I asked ChatGPT some questions, some interesting design progression ideas came up.

I do not see anything interesting or technically feasible in the reply ("intelligent sail" (sic) with "self tensioning monofilm"? "small solar panels to power wind sensor(S)", plural? "self adjust foil", right great! how?). It is actually a good example of how chat-GPT strings together sentences to regurgitate nonsense. It happens a lot. Not sure why waste your time "chatting" with it.

AI came up with this nonsense windsurf web site: (make sure to scroll down for the pics)
www.sailboardsmiami.com/river-windsurfing/

Sounds like windsurfing has hardly even got started yet compared to what it may become.
Yep, I'm sure it learned plenty from threads here.

Am thinking a lot came from sailing websites. Ai controls on boats are being marketed pretty hard. most of the items mentioned by the ai quoted above are already being developed for sail boats.

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Mr Milk said..
Tangential, and mildly amusing, is something I came across today. There is an AI code generator on the market called "Windsurf" which will put plenty of website designers out of work (so more sailing for them). It seems to be a tool that you feed a screen grab of a website to and it will come up with the code required to mirror it or to modify it into a new site.

This must have been developed by a windsurfer.

codeium.com/windsurf

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Paducah said..
AI came up with this nonsense windsurf web site: (make sure to scroll down for the pics)
www.sailboardsmiami.com/river-windsurfing/

Those AI pictures do weird things to booms like they do to hands. One of the riders only has one leg and in the cover pic, he's inside the boom hanging onto the uphaul, ha ha nuts

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Gestalt said..
I asked ChatGPT some questions, some interesting design progression ideas came up.

I do not see anything interesting or technically feasible in the reply ("intelligent sail" (sic) with "self tensioning monofilm"? "small solar panels to power wind sensor(S)", plural? "self adjust foil", right great! how?). It is actually a good example of how chat-GPT strings together sentences to regurgitate nonsense. It happens a lot. Not sure why waste your time "chatting" with it.

All of these suggestions stem from real world working ai programs or ai solutions in development. Give google a crack. Broaden your knowledge base

Ok you got me, im actually a sophisticated windsurf robot send back in time from the future to help others feel better about their sailing by being bad at it..

OpenAI just dropped a new image model overnight (you need ChatGPT Plus to access) and its pretty legit. Best windsurfing render I've seen so far... we're getting close! Soon we won't need to go windsurfing anymore to get the magazine cover.

Prompt: windsurfer on the Great Barrier Reef on a red sail and blue board.

If you want a good laugh, ask a very basic AI model about windsurfing. Here's what the default in Msty knows:


I finally understand why my windsurfing sucked - I never used the paddle! Seems my boards are way too short, too. It's been more than 40 years since I last was on a 16-footer.

This model also gives similar funny/sad answers about all kinds of stuff (try wing foiling!), always giving the impression it knows exactly what it is talking about. Reminds me a bit of "internet experts" who managed to "understand" after a 5-minute search that vaccines are very dangerous. It talks quite a bit of knowledge to know when you don't know.

I asked ChatGPT to analyze a wind foiling gybe video from last week.
ChatGPT gave me a detailed analysis and what I think were some really good tips on what to improve. I was very surprised how good the feedback was!
For anyone interested, I posted a video showing what I did and the feedback it provided.
In addition to some detailed feedback in three phases of the gybe, it provided practice drills and a plan to improve in each area.
Has anyone else done similar for windsurfing? I think this has real promise as a training/coaching tool (with the obvious cautions of any emerging technology). I would be interested in any comments, especially anyone else who has given it a try.
Here's a link to the video:

I haven't used AI for training, however i don't know that many people not using AI.

My colleagues are using AI as a design tool with exceptional results.
The IT company that handles our networks uses it to check and write code
I know doctors and psychologists that are recording session to enable AI to help diagnose and suggest treatment plans
I know musicians that are using AI to write songs, compose and play music
teachers using AI to write reports, etc.
your local supermarket is using it..

occasionally i'll use AI to compose emails.

the examples posted above of AI doing silly things are primarily the result of not using AI to it's fullest potential. like all things in life the responses need to be reviewed, massaged and tweaked by the user. that's how to get the best outcomes. collaborating with AI.

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SeanAUS120 said..
OpenAI just dropped a new image model overnight (you need ChatGPT Plus to access) and its pretty legit. Best windsurfing render I've seen so far... we're getting close! Soon we won't need to go windsurfing anymore to get the magazine cover.

Prompt: windsurfer on the Great Barrier Reef on a red sail and blue board.

Needs more downhaul.

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remery said..

SeanAUS120 said..
OpenAI just dropped a new image model overnight (you need ChatGPT Plus to access) and its pretty legit. Best windsurfing render I've seen so far... we're getting close! Soon we won't need to go windsurfing anymore to get the magazine cover.

Prompt: windsurfer on the Great Barrier Reef on a red sail and blue board.

Needs more downhaul.

Radical new mast track position

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GulfWinds said..
I asked ChatGPT to analyze a wind foiling gybe video from last week.
ChatGPT gave me a detailed analysis and what I think were some really good tips on what to improve. I was very surprised how good the feedback was!
For anyone interested, I posted a video showing what I did and the feedback it provided.
In addition to some detailed feedback in three phases of the gybe, it provided practice drills and a plan to improve in each area.
Has anyone else done similar for windsurfing? I think this has real promise as a training/coaching tool (with the obvious cautions of any emerging technology). I would be interested in any comments, especially anyone else who has given it a try.
Here's a link to the video:

A lot of generic points were returned there. Switch feet whilst flipping the sail? It didn't spot the touchdown. Try uploading a video of a perfect gybe, and a worse one. I noticed you were using a cheetah fin sail, relatively long boomed.

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Gestalt said..
I haven't used AI for training, however i don't know that many people not using AI.

My colleagues are using AI as a design tool with exceptional results.
The IT company that handles our networks uses it to check and write code
I know doctors and psychologists that are recording session to enable AI to help diagnose and suggest treatment plans
I know musicians that are using AI to write songs, compose and play music
teachers using AI to write reports, etc.
your local supermarket is using it..

occasionally i'll use AI to compose emails.

the examples posted above of AI doing silly things are primarily the result of not using AI to it's fullest potential. like all things in life the responses need to be reviewed, massaged and tweaked by the user. that's how to get the best outcomes. collaborating with AI.

For your music friends

Jeez that guy is bitter.

My mate Tim just sent me a message, "These nerds just bought our sports name!"

www.windsurf.com

www.forbes.com/sites/johnwerner/2025/05/06/its-openais-biggest-acquisition-to-date--but-what-does-windsurf-do/

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SeanAUS120 said..
OpenAI just dropped a new image model overnight (you need ChatGPT Plus to access) and its pretty legit. Best windsurfing render I've seen so far... we're getting close! Soon we won't need to go windsurfing anymore to get the magazine cover.

Prompt: windsurfer on the Great Barrier Reef on a red sail and blue board.

I'm a bit worried about the position of that mast foot..

It's a new design concept - lateral sliding mast track to allow for more lift on the windward rail.

I've been using Windsurf in my work for a while now for coding and it's impressive what AI can do these days, especially realising this is the worst it will ever perform.

Back to real windsurfing, this is a pretty cool and a great demo of what AI is capable of. It makes mistakes, so do humans and gets better every day:

Sadly I didn't have enough free tokens to analyze my own video. I wonder if ChatGPT was trained on this forum and maybe some of my YT technique videos too???

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berowne said..
Sadly I didn't have enough free tokens to analyze my own video. I wonder if ChatGPT was trained on this forum and maybe some of my YT technique videos too???

Assuredly it likely was. No matter how many Nvidia gpus you gather in one spot, none of them can foil. That's a big problem with AI - taking our content and monetizing it.