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Where's wally?

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Created by KA360 > 9 months ago, 30 Aug 2013
KA360
NSW, 803 posts
2 Sep 2013 11:43PM
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AyreForce1 said..

... I fully understand that some others, like yourself, might not be interested in it ??? but of course no one is forcing you to look at it...


BTW - Since I was the one that noticed it was gone and posted this thread it might be that I'm more interested than most ...

AyreForce1
NSW, 339 posts
2 Sep 2013 11:58PM
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KA360. Thank you again. I deleted my original Stephano 'profile' a year & a half ago and I have not used it since. I don't know who the new Stephano is or who the other profiles you refer to belong to. I have only 1 profile.

Gestalt
QLD, 14722 posts
2 Sep 2013 11:59PM
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so who is on the current wcaa committee??

yes, i think a longboard forum is a good idea.

Man0verBoard
WA, 629 posts
2 Sep 2013 10:32PM
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pierrec45 said..

I sail ODs and I don't even see the point for such a forum.

For the 3-4 times a year that there are OD-related postings, the general Seabreeze Windsurfing forum does the job.
I don't remember anyone ever complaining about the OD Nats being posted there, for instance.
Ditto longboard questions, and vintage equipment.

The one thing that confused me about the brief forum was that it seemed to claim to be the official thing, whereas the Ass'n has a site.

Personally I switch on-water between long- and shortboard equipment, and it's more fun.
Fellow sailors find that amusing, and try it sometimes. So ditto in Seabreeze: let's mix it up on the same beach-forum...


Having heard many varying opinions now, I am firmly of the opinion that it is better for longboarders and OD's to be posting/represented in the General Forum.

Any publicity is good publicity, as they say. Enjoy the broader audience, people. I dare say you will have many more reading and appreciating your posts!

I'll be showing my support by either way.

p.s. I reserve the right to be firmly of a different opinion sooner or later..

pierrec45
NSW, 2005 posts
3 Sep 2013 12:35AM
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fjdoug said..

hi Pierre, after reading your post i went looking for the offical association site and found this yahoo group;

groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/WindsurferOD/conversations/topics


It's Pierrec, not Pierre pleeeease

Anyways, my search gives: www.windsurfing.org/windsurfer.htm, which is a lot more official, being under the Aussie Windsurf Org umbrella. Like, the one that lists the KAs... This is what I had in mind when I posted, but I shoulda been clearer.

That it's up to date or not, it's up to the ass'n and its board, I suppose.

But a forum is a forum, and should not represent an association IMO, esp. in the context of Seabreeze.

This debate has turned into personal mudslinging, not the place either.
I tend to eschew drama, else I'd watch Coronation Street.
(damn Tina is hot... )

fjdoug
ACT, 548 posts
3 Sep 2013 9:13AM
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^^^sorry Pierrec;

yep, saw that windsurfing.org page too but did not figure thats what you meant, as at that site, at up-coming events, it currently lists the 2007 national titles.

fjdoug
ACT, 548 posts
3 Sep 2013 9:52AM
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[b]KA360 said

BTW - Since I was the one that noticed it was gone and posted this thread it might be that I'm more interested than most ...


any truth in the rumour that a couple of years ago you drove all the way to sydney to buy two drop-centreboard, tee-piece, 11 foot boom wallys.....



seanhogan
QLD, 3424 posts
3 Sep 2013 9:58AM
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after reading all this,.... I understand why Wally ran away and is still hiding....

KA360
NSW, 803 posts
3 Sep 2013 10:52AM
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fjdoug said..

any truth in the rumour that a couple of years ago you drove all the way to sydney to buy two drop-centreboard, tee-piece, 11 foot boom wallys.....

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OK! OK! So you know more about my shady past than I have let on ... I admit I have secretly checked out that forum.

This is all part of my cunning plan to destroy the current association and create a new, better Wallyworld which will be a happy, bully-free place, where we can all enjoy Windsurfing and where of course I will be the KING!!! HA HA HA Pity that some think the democratic way is better...

windsufering
VIC, 1124 posts
3 Sep 2013 8:48PM
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fjdoug said..
seems like the Onedesign forum was introduced on a trial period, too bad it was done during winter and all the local pros are away in Europe for the summer competing in the Windsurfer OneDesign World ProTour. seriously; would be nice to replace it with a Longboard forum. there is still a bunch of big-board sailors out there and seabreeze seems to be most peoples 1st choice. they are not the most vocal, but the info is always good.


Well they could be in Italy racing, can some one tell me how big the OD fleet in Italy is ?

clarence
TAS, 979 posts
3 Sep 2013 11:06PM
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AyreForce1 said..


But to include all longboards, including modern raceboards, misses the point. There is not much synergy between the two. With our own separate forum we are provided a bit of distance from the negative views of those who 'just don't get it'.


I respectfully disagree. I think there is a huge amount of common ground between all longboards, especially now that the windsurfing market is completely dominated by shortboards. The technique, equipment, history, design issues etc around the majority of longboards is very closely related when one considers how different they are from shortboards.

I don't see so many negative comments that it is a big issue.

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fjdoug said..

currently i trawl thru General, NSW and QLD to follow Wally and Longboard stuff.


"trawl" is the right word. The longboard topics end up getting lost in the mix with all the other general topics including those completely non-windsurf related.

I think the longboard sailors are possibly less vocal as there is not a dedicated forum.

Clarence

seanhogan
QLD, 3424 posts
4 Sep 2013 7:22AM
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large board ?


deejay8204
QLD, 557 posts
4 Sep 2013 8:36AM
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Considering a lot of races around here now include a longboard division I think it would be better than a dedicated OD forum. On the 4th May this year at Lake Cootharaba they had longboard races included and had a good turn out for it from memory. Although the wind wasn't the best the fellow sailors had fun. I would love to have a forum for longboards where us that have started on them can get help without the people screaming blue murder that we are on a longboard and not a shortboard. We all dont have deep pockets in this world. I dont care if I dont have a modern board or Rig, I am just out to have fun on the water like everyone else. I dont care if it takes me another year to progress I am still having fun on the OLD gear. So are my mates who also sail pre 90's gear.

If the forum doesn't happen who cares, if it does happen the better it will be.

AyreForce1
NSW, 339 posts
4 Sep 2013 10:57AM
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deejay8204 said:
" . . . I would love to have a forum for longboards where us that have started on them can get help without the people screaming blue murder that we are on a longboard and not a shortboard. We all dont have deep pockets in this world. I dont care if I dont have a modern board or Rig, I am just out to have fun on the water like everyone else. I dont care if it takes me another year to progress I am still having fun on the OLD gear. So are my mates who also sail pre 90's gear."

Ok ditto.
And yes OK, I'll dial back my (too high) expectations of a primarily WINDSURFER OneDesign forum and get behind the push to replace that forum with a longboard forum. In the end it will provide a win for all concerned:
modern longboard Raceboarders
Old Style Longboard Freestylers
Original Windsurfer Classic, Mistrals, etc, etc, etc, ie. Wally 'one design' pop outs of the 70's & 80's
WINDSURFER OneDesign community at large [and the official WCAA if it should so choose in the (hopefully near) future]
Seabreeze will gain increased hits /traffic and improve its URL metric$
So the only question is: What name?

drift
VIC, 737 posts
4 Sep 2013 11:00AM
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Our experience is that there is a demand for longboarding, if
the right environment and events exist. For example, we run a regular longboard event- http://inverlochwindsurf.org.au/?page_id=1675
I agree that it might not be for everyone but it would make more sense to have a generic longboard forum to take in all classes of boards ( WindSups included, maybe?)

clarence
TAS, 979 posts
4 Sep 2013 8:20PM
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AyreForce1 said..
So the only question is: What name?


Keep it simple: "longboards" or "longboards/OD".

Once it's going I'll post a few topics that I've been meaning to for a while, might even start a D2 thread.

Clarence

da vecta
QLD, 2515 posts
4 Sep 2013 8:22PM
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Longboards/Raceboards

fjdoug
ACT, 548 posts
4 Sep 2013 9:23PM
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[b]

Once it's going I'll post a few topics that I've been meaning to for a while, might even start a D2 thread.

Clarence


wasn't you who recently bought the mint M1 from up this way?!, apparently it went to tassie...

AyreForce1
NSW, 339 posts
4 Sep 2013 9:29PM
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Longboards & One Design
or
Longboards & Old Style

I'd like the title to somehow deliniate that we're not really talking about modern or unrestricted 'development class raceboards'; because that would include Formula (which is already well served by the Seabreeze Windsurfing NSW forum); RS-X (which would be well served by www Niel Pryde); Kona (which has its own www); etc
What other suggestions are out there?

fjdoug
ACT, 548 posts
4 Sep 2013 9:43PM
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i think Longboards is fine.

i don't think Formula sailors would post at Longboards, and i do not think it would be an issue if they did.
dito for RSX, though there must only be a handful of them around here.
i think most would consider Longboards to be 12 foot plus, though shorter funboards, SUP's etc should be welcome.

pierrec45
NSW, 2005 posts
4 Sep 2013 11:24PM
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Well it's some 10 yeahs for a new forum.
Prob. the same 10 who contributed to the one that disappeared.

How does Laurie proceed to start a new forum, does he wait to have so many voters either way ?

clarence
TAS, 979 posts
5 Sep 2013 12:54AM
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pierrec45 said..

Well it's some 10 yeahs for a new forum.
Prob. the same 10 who contributed to the one that disappeared.



I would guess the population of longboard sailors is substantially larger than just Windsurfer OD sailors- it may just take a while for them to spread the word and come out of the woodwork. There are a few hubs of longboard racing on the east coast, where interest may be generated.

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fjdoug said..

wasn't you who recently bought the mint M1 from up this way?!, apparently it went to tassie...[/b]


The M1 (Mistral) D2 board did make its way back to Tassie with me, which was its home for many years.

Clarence

deejay8204
QLD, 557 posts
5 Sep 2013 10:41AM
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How about:

Old School Windsurfers.

This way it would include all old boards not just long boards and OD's as there are a lot of people starting on old freeride gear like myself that I really enjoy using, as well as my old longboards.

AyreForce1
NSW, 339 posts
9 Sep 2013 3:04PM
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Dear Laurie,
Please, please ressurect Wally
rename it "Longboards with Centreboards"
to distinguish it from short & without.
It will prove popular - there is no doubt
and Seabreeze will bask forever in glory.

briann8300
NSW, 143 posts
9 Sep 2013 4:07PM
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clarence said..

I think the forum was too narrow as just windsurfer one-design.

I would like to see the forum back as "longboards" (or something to that effect), which would cover course racing, windsurfer one design, mistral IMCO, Neil Pryde RS, old school freestyle, longboard technique etc etc. More or less anything with a centreboard. I think the interest and volume of traffic (and diversity of topics) would increase significantly.

At the moment the only site to my knowledge is lbwindsurf.com, which is an international site.

Clarence


+1

fjdoug
ACT, 548 posts
9 Sep 2013 8:16PM
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+2

AyreForce1
NSW, 339 posts
9 Sep 2013 9:38PM
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+3
"Longboards with Centreboards"

windsufering
VIC, 1124 posts
9 Sep 2013 9:50PM
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Windsurfing with centreboards

clarence
TAS, 979 posts
9 Sep 2013 10:59PM
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Based on the volume of replies to a topic in this section (windurfing- general), this one rates as number three in the last two months (there was a caption comp, which had a higher than normal number of replies- but it included a picture of a female in high heels with a bare backside).

Who has the direct line to Mr Laurie to twist his arm?

Clarence

Man0verBoard
WA, 629 posts
9 Sep 2013 9:36PM
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Course boards/Funboards



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