... I fully understand that some others, like yourself, might not be interested in it ??? but of course no one is forcing you to look at it...
BTW - Since I was the one that noticed it was gone and posted this thread it might be that I'm more interested than most ...
KA360. Thank you again. I deleted my original Stephano 'profile' a year & a half ago and I have not used it since. I don't know who the new Stephano is or who the other profiles you refer to belong to. I have only 1 profile.
I sail ODs and I don't even see the point for such a forum.
For the 3-4 times a year that there are OD-related postings, the general Seabreeze Windsurfing forum does the job.
I don't remember anyone ever complaining about the OD Nats being posted there, for instance.
Ditto longboard questions, and vintage equipment.
The one thing that confused me about the brief forum was that it seemed to claim to be the official thing, whereas the Ass'n has a site.
Personally I switch on-water between long- and shortboard equipment, and it's more fun.
Fellow sailors find that amusing, and try it sometimes. So ditto in Seabreeze: let's mix it up on the same beach-forum...
Having heard many varying opinions now, I am firmly of the opinion that it is better for longboarders and OD's to be posting/represented in the General Forum.
Any publicity is good publicity, as they say. Enjoy the broader audience, people. I dare say you will have many more reading and appreciating your posts!
I'll be showing my support by either way.![]()
p.s. I reserve the right to be firmly of a different opinion sooner or later..
^^^sorry Pierrec;
yep, saw that windsurfing.org page too but did not figure thats what you meant, as at that site, at up-coming events, it currently lists the 2007 national titles.
BTW - Since I was the one that noticed it was gone and posted this thread it might be that I'm more interested than most ...
any truth in the rumour that a couple of years ago you drove all the way to sydney to buy two drop-centreboard, tee-piece, 11 foot boom wallys.....
any truth in the rumour that a couple of years ago you drove all the way to sydney to buy two drop-centreboard, tee-piece, 11 foot boom wallys.....
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OK! OK! So you know more about my shady past than I have let on ...
I admit I have secretly checked out that forum.
This is all part of my cunning plan to destroy the current association and create a new, better Wallyworld which will be a happy, bully-free place, where we can all enjoy Windsurfing and where of course I will be the KING!!! HA HA HA
Pity that some think the democratic way is better...
seems like the Onedesign forum was introduced on a trial period, too bad it was done during winter and all the local pros are away in Europe for the summer competing in the Windsurfer OneDesign World ProTour. seriously; would be nice to replace it with a Longboard forum. there is still a bunch of big-board sailors out there and seabreeze seems to be most peoples 1st choice. they are not the most vocal, but the info is always good.
Well they could be in Italy racing, can some one tell me how big the OD fleet in Italy is ?
But to include all longboards, including modern raceboards, misses the point. There is not much synergy between the two. With our own separate forum we are provided a bit of distance from the negative views of those who 'just don't get it'.
I respectfully disagree. I think there is a huge amount of common ground between all longboards, especially now that the windsurfing market is completely dominated by shortboards. The technique, equipment, history, design issues etc around the majority of longboards is very closely related when one considers how different they are from shortboards.
I don't see so many negative comments that it is a big issue.
currently i trawl thru General, NSW and QLD to follow Wally and Longboard stuff.
"trawl" is the right word. The longboard topics end up getting lost in the mix with all the other general topics including those completely non-windsurf related.
I think the longboard sailors are possibly less vocal as there is not a dedicated forum.
Clarence
Considering a lot of races around here now include a longboard division I think it would be better than a dedicated OD forum. On the 4th May this year at Lake Cootharaba they had longboard races included and had a good turn out for it from memory. Although the wind wasn't the best the fellow sailors had fun. I would love to have a forum for longboards where us that have started on them can get help without the people screaming blue murder that we are on a longboard and not a shortboard. We all dont have deep pockets in this world. I dont care if I dont have a modern board or Rig, I am just out to have fun on the water like everyone else. I dont care if it takes me another year to progress I am still having fun on the OLD gear. So are my mates who also sail pre 90's gear.
If the forum doesn't happen who cares, if it does happen the better it will be.
deejay8204 said:
" . . . I would love to have a forum for longboards where us that have started on them can get help without the people screaming blue murder that we are on a longboard and not a shortboard. We all dont have deep pockets in this world. I dont care if I dont have a modern board or Rig, I am just out to have fun on the water like everyone else. I dont care if it takes me another year to progress I am still having fun on the OLD gear. So are my mates who also sail pre 90's gear."
Ok ditto.
And yes OK, I'll dial back my (too high) expectations of a primarily WINDSURFER OneDesign forum and get behind the push to replace that forum with a longboard forum. In the end it will provide a win for all concerned:
modern longboard Raceboarders
Old Style Longboard Freestylers
Original Windsurfer Classic, Mistrals, etc, etc, etc, ie. Wally 'one design' pop outs of the 70's & 80's
WINDSURFER OneDesign community at large [and the official WCAA if it should so choose in the (hopefully near) future]
Seabreeze will gain increased hits /traffic and improve its URL metric$
So the only question is: What name?
Our experience is that there is a demand for longboarding, if
the right environment and events exist. For example, we run a regular longboard event- http://inverlochwindsurf.org.au/?page_id=1675
I agree that it might not be for everyone but it would make more sense to have a generic longboard forum to take in all classes of boards ( WindSups included, maybe?)
So the only question is: What name?
Keep it simple: "longboards" or "longboards/OD".
Once it's going I'll post a few topics that I've been meaning to for a while, might even start a D2 thread.
Clarence
Once it's going I'll post a few topics that I've been meaning to for a while, might even start a D2 thread.
Clarence
wasn't you who recently bought the mint M1 from up this way?!, apparently it went to tassie...
Longboards & One Design
or
Longboards & Old Style
I'd like the title to somehow deliniate that we're not really talking about modern or unrestricted 'development class raceboards'; because that would include Formula (which is already well served by the Seabreeze Windsurfing NSW forum); RS-X (which would be well served by www Niel Pryde); Kona (which has its own www); etc
What other suggestions are out there?
i think Longboards is fine.
i don't think Formula sailors would post at Longboards, and i do not think it would be an issue if they did.
dito for RSX, though there must only be a handful of them around here.
i think most would consider Longboards to be 12 foot plus, though shorter funboards, SUP's etc should be welcome.
Well it's some 10 yeahs for a new forum.
Prob. the same 10 who contributed to the one that disappeared.
How does Laurie proceed to start a new forum, does he wait to have so many voters either way ?
Well it's some 10 yeahs for a new forum.
Prob. the same 10 who contributed to the one that disappeared.
I would guess the population of longboard sailors is substantially larger than just Windsurfer OD sailors- it may just take a while for them to spread the word and come out of the woodwork. There are a few hubs of longboard racing on the east coast, where interest may be generated.
wasn't you who recently bought the mint M1 from up this way?!, apparently it went to tassie...[/b]
The M1 (Mistral) D2 board did make its way back to Tassie with me, which was its home for many years.
Clarence
How about:
Old School Windsurfers.
This way it would include all old boards not just long boards and OD's as there are a lot of people starting on old freeride gear like myself that I really enjoy using, as well as my old longboards.
Dear Laurie,
Please, please ressurect Wally
rename it "Longboards with Centreboards"
to distinguish it from short & without.
It will prove popular - there is no doubt
and Seabreeze will bask forever in glory.
I think the forum was too narrow as just windsurfer one-design.
I would like to see the forum back as "longboards" (or something to that effect), which would cover course racing, windsurfer one design, mistral IMCO, Neil Pryde RS, old school freestyle, longboard technique etc etc. More or less anything with a centreboard. I think the interest and volume of traffic (and diversity of topics) would increase significantly.
At the moment the only site to my knowledge is lbwindsurf.com, which is an international site.
Clarence
+1
Based on the volume of replies to a topic in this section (windurfing- general), this one rates as number three in the last two months (there was a caption comp, which had a higher than normal number of replies- but it included a picture of a female in high heels with a bare backside).
Who has the direct line to Mr Laurie to twist his arm?
Clarence