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When extension is too much extension?

Created by K Dog K Dog  > 9 months ago, 10 May 2010
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K Dog
K Dog

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10 May 2010 6:15pm
I am taking more of an interest in rigging my sail correctly and am wondering, if I have a sail that recommends a 430 mast, but has a luff of 463, I am going to need an extension that is 30cm plus right?

I then start to think there is not much extension left in the mast hole - is that a bad thing?

Cheers in advance and not minding my ignorance in these matters.
Mistral Nick
Mistral Nick

QLD

370 posts

10 May 2010 6:46pm
Sounds like you may be using a "Zen" but I reckon you run the risk of breaking your mast at the bottom using a 30cm extension , also you won' be able to obtain the correct downhall. You should obtain a longer extension.
Cheers
racerX
racerX

463 posts

10 May 2010 6:30pm
I have 2009 severne 6.5M gator, luff is 461 or something like that. The recommended mast is 430 which I have, and so I use a 42m carbon extension set at 31cm. Works fine, and that was the way it was designed. As its a big sail for me it only for 'light winds' blasting. For a big bloke's, waves sail perhaps it would not be ideal, but it does not seem like a weak point compared to the rest of the rig, as there is a something like ~20cm inside the mast.
seano
seano

NSW

150 posts

10 May 2010 9:49pm
the neil pryde 10.7m race sails recommend 44cm extension on a 530 mast, that doesnt leave much inside & they have more downhaul than just about anything. Having a lot of extension inside the mast isnt that good a thing, as the mast bends the top of the extension can cause pressure point loading on the mast.
I've seen a few sails that have recommended settings for two masts, the smaller mast usually being better suited to stronger wind or a lighter rider.
I use a pryde X6 / mxt 48cm mast extension & think its the best one on the market...
JayBee
JayBee

NSW

714 posts

10 May 2010 10:05pm
Geez Sean, your 10.7 has the same luff as my 12 ;-)

Yours must be a special edition,

JB
K Dog
K Dog

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10 May 2010 10:55pm
Looks like I am going shopping this weekend then......

more purchases.... more purchases...[}:)]
jermaldan
jermaldan

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10 May 2010 11:31pm
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K Dog said...

Looks like I am going shopping this weekend then......

more purchases.... more purchases...[}:)]


Shopping... I buy stuff and hide it from the missus. Then she goes to the garage and sees something new she says... Oh when did you get that... and I go... what? that old thing!

Buy as much stuff as you can comfortably hide.
WindmanV
WindmanV

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11 May 2010 9:02am
Hi, K Dog,

Suggest you consider a NP X3, 34 extension as shown here: www.neilpryde.com/?Itemid=123&catid=51%3Aextension&id=113%3Ax3&option=com_content&view=article

Note that it may only be available in Mistral pin version.

Hope this helps.
K Dog
K Dog

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11 May 2010 10:39am
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WindmanV said...

Hi, K Dog,

Suggest you consider a NP X3, 34 extension as shown here: www.neilpryde.com/?Itemid=123&catid=51%3Aextension&id=113%3Ax3&option=com_content&view=article

Note that it may only be available in Mistral pin version.

Hope this helps.


Thanks - what about the 48? too much size?
K Dog
K Dog

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11 May 2010 10:41am
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jermaldan said...


Shopping... I buy stuff and hide it from the missus. Then she goes to the garage and sees something new she says... Oh when did you get that... and I go... what? that old thing!

Buy as much stuff as you can comfortably hide.


haha - I can hide it alright - I get stuff sent to work - then take it home - under the bed... all good :P
x sport guy
x sport guy

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110 posts

11 May 2010 6:04pm
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K Dog said...

WindmanV said...

Hi, K Dog,

Suggest you consider a NP X3, 34 extension as shown here: www.neilpryde.com/?Itemid=123&catid=51%3Aextension&id=113%3Ax3&option=com_content&view=article

Note that it may only be available in Mistral pin version.

Hope this helps.


Thanks - what about the 48? too much size?


I have the 48.... just be aware that if you have it at the lower settings, about 0 - 10 cms it may start to jam up as you put it in the smaller masts 370 - 430, but im guessing you already have the lower settings covered with a shorter extension...
K Dog
K Dog

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11 May 2010 6:12pm
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x sport guy said...

K Dog said...

WindmanV said...

Hi, K Dog,

Suggest you consider a NP X3, 34 extension as shown here: www.neilpryde.com/?Itemid=123&catid=51%3Aextension&id=113%3Ax3&option=com_content&view=article

Note that it may only be available in Mistral pin version.

Hope this helps.


Thanks - what about the 48? too much size?


I have the 48.... just be aware that if you have it at the lower settings, about 0 - 10 cms it may start to jam up as you put it in the smaller masts 370 - 430, but im guessing you already have the lower settings covered with a shorter extension...


Thanks man - going to get some prices for the 48!

Cheers.
jh2703
jh2703

NSW

1225 posts

11 May 2010 7:20pm
K Dog,

Do you run SDM or RDM masts, I use to run the Pryde extensions...Untill I got hold of a Prolimit carbon RDM extension that is...It's the beez kneez. I'm a heavy weight sailor and run the extension on max most of the time and it puts up with all my abuse and doesn't look like giving up anytime soon....And it's about half the weight of the Pryde.

I don't know if I have a point but I do like my RDM masts and my carbon extensions.

Cheers...Jason.
K Dog
K Dog

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12 May 2010 5:34pm
Got SDM
sausage
sausage

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12 May 2010 6:14pm
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K Dog said...

Got SDM


Talk about confusion - thought to myself, "when did Poor Reli start to windsurf?"
Bondalucci
Bondalucci

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12 May 2010 6:32pm
Hmmmm, K Dog.

.....You must be Poor Relative's identical twin brother.

- makes you Poor Relative's relative??
jermaldan
jermaldan

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12 May 2010 6:36pm
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K Dog said...

Got SDM


Have we all been punked? are they one and the same person? Come to think of it I have never seem them post in the same topic....hmmmm


Oh no its got me too!!! ahhhhhhhh!!!!

K Dog
K Dog

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13 May 2010 10:58am
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jermaldan said...

K Dog said...

Got SDM


Have we all been punked? are they one and the same person? Come to think of it I have never seem them post in the same topic....hmmmm


Oh no its got me too!!! ahhhhhhhh!!!!





Who is this poor reli dude? And why is he using my childhood pictures of when I beat anorexia?
grumplestiltskin
grumplestiltskin

WA

2331 posts

13 May 2010 12:06pm
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K Dog said...

jermaldan said...

K Dog said...

Got SDM


Have we all been punked? are they one and the same person? Come to think of it I have never seem them post in the same topic....hmmmm


Oh no its got me too!!! ahhhhhhhh!!!!





Who is this poor reli dude? And why is he using my childhood pictures of when I beat anorexia?

He is a seabreeze LEGEND with over 6000 posts! I think he has rightful ownership of the avatar (on seabreeze anyway)
K Dog
K Dog

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13 May 2010 3:04pm
Okay! Okay! I was unaware of his status - will update my picture to a real picture of me.
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