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AUS-057
AUS-057
QLD
466 posts
QLD, 466 posts
19 Feb 2008 10:32pm
Hi all,

Thinking about buying a second vehicle. Im pretty certain that i will get a Van to carry all the windsurfing gear around.

Ive got my eye on an older 95ish VW transporter SWB or Toyota Hiace.

My question is, does anyone know if a 240cm board will fit flat in the back of a VW short wheel base van? The current model van has specs that says the cargo dimension of 2335mm. Is this the same for the older models?

Thanks
David
swoosh
swoosh
QLD
1929 posts
QLD, 1929 posts
19 Feb 2008 10:33pm
I hear that white ones are good. But red ones go faster.
mathew
mathew
QLD
2167 posts
QLD, 2167 posts
19 Feb 2008 11:38pm
As suggested to me - take your gear down to the place where you are buying the van. If they are serious about selling it, they will let you put the gear inside for a few minutes.
Bertie
Bertie
NSW
1351 posts
NSW, 1351 posts
20 Feb 2008 4:07am
i hear the 2.4L hiaces are pretty much the go with best bang for buck.
i'm also thinking of getting one to so more info would be nice.
lanky
lanky
QLD
213 posts
QLD, 213 posts
20 Feb 2008 7:17am
I have a toyota hiace LWB and love it. The only comment I will make is that the wheel hubs popping up inside the back waste space. if you can get a 5 door.

If I had endless amounts of money though I would have bought a VW carravelle. Best van ever!!!!!!
Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
20 Feb 2008 8:34am
I recently bought a SWB 96 Mitsubishi Delica for $10K.

My 245 cm board fits in the back but the nose sticks between the front two seats. I think the LWB model is around 30 cms longer in the back. However I live in the city and it would be much more of a pain parking the longer van.

Delicas are nice vans. Very comfortable inside with lots of mod cons. Having a proper 4WD system gives them a bit of flexibility on camping trips.

A great thing about mine is the window tint. Its a white car with reflective tint. Its very difficult to see inside, even at night. Inside you have great visibility all around.

I am uncertain of VW reliability. I would not say often, but I sometimes see broken down VW vans on the side of the row, two in the last month. I hear VW parts are expensive and difficult to obtain too.
aus301
aus301
QLD
2039 posts
QLD, 2039 posts
20 Feb 2008 9:50am
Easy choice for mine, get a Toyota.

I know a few guys that swear by the VW's, but I also know a few people that had the older ones (95 to 98ish) and they got to a certain age and died. And as someone else said they are harder and more expensive to get parts for.

Hiace vans just never stop.
waxer
waxer
SA
247 posts
SA, 247 posts
20 Feb 2008 11:00am
I have a Toyota Hiace long wheel base diesel,and regularly carry 3.1metre (10ft) surfboard in back, have carried 11ft but that needs to lay up on front seat one end.Reliability is fantastic ,spares are easily obtained and there are lots around in wreckers for bits and pieces.I owned several older Kombis over the last 20 years(one was my only vehicle for 18 years) ,they too were very reliable, but parts and people who can carry out VW repairs are less plentiful ,and you don't have the access to vehicles in wreckers with VW that you do with Toyota .The diesel engine is very economical but when a major repair is necessary can be very expensive ,I think best scenario Toyota petrol ,VW only if you have the real desire for a less common van and the extra cash to afford to be different.
needsalt
needsalt
NSW
385 posts
NSW, 385 posts
20 Feb 2008 11:41am
I have a 97 VW Transporter SWB and comfortably carry 278 & 281 boards diagonally, but without protruding through to the front seat. Handles really well for a van, but did have some quirky issues that were a bit tricky (although not expensive) to sort out. I have a friend who had similar quirky issues with I think a 95 model. All fixed now though. Certainly quiet and comfortable, quite manoeuvrable for a van, enough stick to get going, tows quite comfortably as well.

I'm currently wondering if I can justify 2 vehicles for one person and am thinking of offloading it and downgrading. Back to the land of roof racks. Big mistake??? Am I sacrificing the windsurfing dream for economy and practicality???
Richiefish
Richiefish
QLD
5612 posts
QLD, 5612 posts
20 Feb 2008 10:41am
toyota hiace or mitsubishi express LWB. See white van thread ,general section.
ducati
ducati
QLD
474 posts
QLD, 474 posts
20 Feb 2008 11:31am
Toyota Hiace SWB can take up to 2.7 m long.
Lower it about 40mm for good stability.
It'll cruise easily up to 140kph (bit thirsty tho)
Chek out ex Telstra at auctions comes with good roof and ladder racks,
(I used ladder racks for making bed frame, board racks, awning etc.
lotsa shelving etc (which I sold for $500)
With false floor over wheel arches gives heaps of storage space also.
pepe47
pepe47
WA
1382 posts
WA, 1382 posts
20 Feb 2008 10:36am
Mobydisc said...

I recently bought a SWB 96 Mitsubishi Delica for $10K.

My 245 cm board fits in the back but the nose sticks between the front two seats. I think the LWB model is around 30 cms longer in the back. However I live in the city and it would be much more of a pain parking the longer van.

Delicas are nice vans. Very comfortable inside with lots of mod cons. Having a proper 4WD system gives them a bit of flexibility on camping trips.

A great thing about mine is the window tint. Its a white car with reflective tint. Its very difficult to see inside, even at night. Inside you have great visibility all around.

I am uncertain of VW reliability. I would not say often, but I sometimes see broken down VW vans on the side of the row, two in the last month. I hear VW parts are expensive and difficult to obtain too.


Too right! I would have gone for the long wheel base myself (had I done some homework) 30cms is a fair bit when you realise it covers not only your board but the masts as well.... Go the muppet bus!
P.C_simpson
P.C_simpson
WA
1492 posts
WA, 1492 posts
20 Feb 2008 2:32pm
hiace 100%, cheap, run for ever even if there out of tune, mine has stopped once, but it was floating down the main road at the time in the newcastle floods, started first go the next day.. and they are everywhere so parts are easy to find..
OceanBlue64
OceanBlue64
VIC
980 posts
VIC, 980 posts
20 Feb 2008 10:02pm
Want to make sure you get to water before wind dies?

Get one of these vans...

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/53a3e56a-adef-4122-b822-99b300d95d08.htm
paddymac
paddymac
WA
943 posts
WA, 943 posts
20 Feb 2008 10:26pm
Trouble and strife didn't want to be seen in a van but allowed the purse strings to be opened for a wagon. I took my board around to dealers and no one blinked when I said "I've just got to see if this fits" Mits. Lancer, Mazda 6, Subaru Outback/Liberty/Forester all fit a 273sm board. I settled on the Outback, just fold down the seats and you're in business. But I still suss out the vans as I drive past them and think how much more gear I could whack in
Spotty
Spotty
VIC
1619 posts
VIC, 1619 posts
21 Feb 2008 1:12am
Oh the joys of acquiring and fitting out a van, I had and old Bedford with a V8 on straight gas, it was sweet, quick and economical. Suggest a LWB van, heaps of room for trips away.

Vans don't have to be slow either.......Slowboat has/had? an L300 I think but not as fast as one of these...

L300 with stock like wheels and hubcaps 10.83 sec 122mph 1/4mile



L300 complete with roof rack/conduit for that quick plumbing job around the corner, drag tyres on 9.66 138mph 1/4mile



Or how about an old Hiace they still go really well, this ones on straight LPG/turbo, street tyres great for that quick dash down the coast after work.
9.9 sec at 138 mph


aus301
aus301
QLD
2039 posts
QLD, 2039 posts
21 Feb 2008 11:43am
Matt Mingay (from the dougnut king/capa burnout crew) used to have a Hiace with a 304 EFI V8 motor out of a VS Commodore in it for burnout comps...that was quick.

And at one stage Robbie Bolger had a rocket powered Hiace, I think it would get pretty hot in that one though, and not a great deal of room left for gear after the rocket was fitted.
nebbian
nebbian
WA
6277 posts
WA, 6277 posts
21 Feb 2008 11:24am
aus301 said...
And at one stage Robbie Bolger had a rocket powered Hiace, I think it would get pretty hot in that one though, and not a great deal of room left for gear after the rocket was fitted.


If it's the one I'm thinking of, it was a turbofan engine from a MiG. The van showed up at a couple of V8 races, and did a run down the straight.

Acceleration looked pretty ordinary, but top speed was pretty good The rumour mill said that he's since gotten the engine tuned by some air force guys and it performs a lot better now...
ka222
ka222
VIC
633 posts
VIC, 633 posts
21 Feb 2008 2:21pm
Spotty said...

Oh the joys of acquiring and fitting out a van, I had and old Bedford with a V8 on straight gas, it was sweet, quick and economical. Suggest a LWB van, heaps of room for trips away.

Vans don't have to be slow either.......Slowboat has/had? an L300 I think but not as fast as one of these...

L300 with stock like wheels and hubcaps 10.83 sec 122mph 1/4mile



L300 complete with roof rack/conduit for that quick plumbing job around the corner, drag tyres on 9.66 138mph 1/4mile



Or how about an old Hiace they still go really well, this ones on straight LPG/turbo, street tyres great for that quick dash down the coast after work.
9.9 sec at 138 mph





I dunno Spotty i think your Vito would give them a run! haha maybe not...
surfmatt
surfmatt
1 posts
1 posts
1 Apr 2008 9:28am
hmm its a tough one, as i live in the uk haha, vw quality is very very good if you can get get a caravelle with a vr6 engine in it your laughing, lwb will get your gear in no problem, the lwb transporter t4 is best really for your gear and the 2.5tdi has enough poke aswell, on the other hand hiace will go and go, drive into the sea unload your gear when the sea goes back out drive it away, blow it up and it will carry on, whatever you decide lwb is the best idea,
hope i helped, any other questions feel free to ask (i know my vans)
matt
keef
keef
NSW
2016 posts
NSW, 2016 posts
1 Apr 2008 4:10pm
i have an ex taxi 97 hiace LWB duel fuel 4 seater, 3 boards,6 sails,masts&accessories+ a queen size mattress, had it for 2 years maintanence free, so keep your eye out youll get it cheep under $1000,there useually in good nic,they have to be inspected every 6 months & the goverment wont let them on the road any longer than 10 years,you will have to have the gas tank checked at a cost of $150 and dont worry about the klms mine has 970,000
HAIL
HAIL
SA
1160 posts
SA, 1160 posts
1 Apr 2008 10:34pm
i own a little mid wheel base 1998 hiace. i swear by it!! my 240 board fits length ways perfect! has heaps of grunt and pick up... and its true!! vans do awsome burnouts! no weight in back means less friction! have just installed a split level floor. i will post some pics but its definatly the way to go!

all the best, chris
kiwibro
kiwibro
WA
175 posts
WA, 175 posts
1 Apr 2008 10:18pm
who needs a van when you can have.....
grumplestiltskin
grumplestiltskin
WA
2331 posts
WA, 2331 posts
2 Apr 2008 9:32am
Is that typical of the age and style of cars that are still on the road in New Zealand????????

westozwind
westozwind
WA
1418 posts
WA, 1418 posts
4 Apr 2008 11:13am
I love this van.
4x4 pajero underneath on LWB L400 starwagon van.

All the fruit. 2 air cons, electric windows, cruise control, great seats with arm rests.

and you can fit all this in!


You know you want one
laff77
laff77
NSW
273 posts
NSW, 273 posts
4 Apr 2008 2:28pm
westozwind said...

I love this van.
4x4 pajero underneath on LWB L400 starwagon van.

All the fruit. 2 air cons, electric windows, cruise control, great seats with arm rests.

and you can fit all this in!


You know you want one


Oooohhh Yeah. Van porn! Love it............
stribo
stribo
QLD
1628 posts
QLD, 1628 posts
4 Apr 2008 1:30pm
BEWARE OF IMPORTS

I work in the spare parts department at a Toyota dealership.Although these imports (mitsi's,nissans and toyota's) look great and have "all the fruit".I would strongly advise against buying one.If you require parts other than an oil or air filter you could have a nice garden ornament for up to 6 months plus a massive repair/parts bill.Also there aren't many mechanics willing to work on them , parts are expensive and hard to source and your resale value is sh1te!!!


BEWARE OF IMPORTS

EDIT.. Toyota WA do sell import parts and the dealer i work for are one of the only ones that sell them... The rest don't bother/refuse to sell parts for them.I can tell you they are(imports) a damn pain in the perverbial..
westozwind
westozwind
WA
1418 posts
WA, 1418 posts
4 Apr 2008 12:27pm
There are plenty of Delica's on the road now (here in WA) and I have a good mechanic that has not had a problem so far.
Plenty of add on bits too.

Parts
delicaparts.com.au/

Parts and Bling
www.delicashop.com/
www.delicashopwa.com/

More info
www.delicaclub.com/

Mobydisc
Mobydisc
NSW
9029 posts
NSW, 9029 posts
4 Apr 2008 3:31pm
In regards to Delicas there is a good website clubdelica.com. Its sponsored by delicaparts.

I have a Delica just like the one pictured above. So far no parts needed besides oil filters. From talking to people who own them, they advise there is no problem with parts. At least one Mitsubishi dealer in Sydney deals with Delica parts and is happy to do so. I read on the Delica club site about one Mitsubishi dealer in SA that didn't want to know about Delicas. They were reported to Mitsubishi Motors Australia and repremanded.

I like my Deli, can fit a fair bit of stuff in the back plus have room for two passengers.
Corkers
Corkers
NSW
154 posts
NSW, 154 posts
4 Apr 2008 7:30pm
What about those new Hyundai ILoads,? They look ok....anyone got one??
Squid Lips
Squid Lips
WA
708 posts
WA, 708 posts
4 Apr 2008 4:39pm
stribo said...

BEWARE OF IMPORTS

I work in the spare parts department at a Toyota dealership.Although these imports (mitsi's,nissans and toyota's) look great and have "all the fruit".I would strongly advise against buying one.If you require parts other than an oil or air filter you could have a nice garden ornament for up to 6 months plus a massive repair/parts bill.Also there aren't many mechanics willing to work on them , parts are expensive and hard to source and your resale value is sh1te!!!


BEWARE OF IMPORTS

EDIT.. Toyota WA do sell import parts and the dealer i work for are one of the only ones that sell them... The rest don't bother/refuse to sell parts for them.I can tell you they are(imports) a damn pain in the perverbial..



Sorry stribo but I have to disagree with most of that. I've been driving an import for the last 8 years and parts are cheap and plentiful at import wreckers, or if you want new parts it's almost always cheaper and easier to source the parts yourself over the net than through a dealer. It may have been true a few years ago that no one wanted to work on them but more and more mechanics are becoming familiar with them. The best thing to do if you buy an import is find a forum like this for that model and it will be full of tech articles and probably have access to the service manual online.
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