Hi!

I've salvaged an old Tiga board, it has a dagger, is around 3,30m long. I can't find data anywhere. I suspect I found a model with a local name for Spain or maybe part of Europe. I found an archived webpage for a Windsurfing site where scrambled text reads Tiga Fuego (Aloha). Was the Aloha a model? Was the Fuego something? Please! I'm burning in doubts.

By the way, I think it was under some trees lying facedown for more than 20 years. The bottom was green/gray and using a restoring product for garden furniture from www.HG.eu it is now brand new!

hg.eu/uk/products/hg-plastic-garden-furniture-restorer

Thanks!

JP

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JPBARNA said..
Hi!

I've salvaged an old Tiga board, it has a dagger, is around 3,30m long. I can't find data anywhere. I suspect I found a model with a local name for Spain or maybe part of Europe. I found an archived webpage for a Windsurfing site where scrambled text reads Tiga Fuego (Aloha). Was the Aloha a model? Was the Fuego something? Please! I'm burning in doubts.

By the way, I think it was under some trees lying facedown for more than 20 years. The bottom was green/gray and using a restoring product for garden furniture from www.HG.eu it is now brand new!

hg.eu/uk/products/hg-plastic-garden-furniture-restorer

Thanks!

JP

The Tiga Aloha was the model which was designed as a youth raceboard and is the forerunner of the Bic Techno, in fact the Bic now TAHE Techno actually uses a Tiga mast-track if you examine it closely. I don't know anything about the Fuego, which sounds like the Renault Fuego and translated from Spanish means on fire. Suggest you measure it against the specs in the advert and see if matches the Aloha or the Swift etc.

www.mercadodelnauta.com.ar/windsurf/tablas/p-1069/tiga-fuego-170d

Mine looks exactly as the Aloha in the photo, not the one in the brochure. The sales listing has no credible data as it says 170cm /liters

mine has a pink sign saying Duratene and designed by Hugues De Turckheim as the Aloha in the photo, and the decals are exactly the same but the name in the sides

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JPBARNA said..
Mine looks exactly as the Aloha in the photo, not the one in the brochure. The sales listing has no credible data as it says 170cm /liters

mine has a pink sign saying Duratene and designed by Hugues De Turckheim as the Aloha in the photo, and the decals are exactly the same but the name in the sides

They were all designed by Hugues De Turckheim back then. If it is as per the original post "around 3.30 m" sounds more like a Swift (3.25m). The Aloha was 3.65 m so definitely not an Aloha unless the wrong length was included in the original post.

So maybe I have a really rare model because it is 342cm x 64cm wide (maybe I can be off a few in the length as measured alone and picking the tape at first try), so could be 345 but I would say 342 or 344 is the real size.

Any more similar ones? The decals are exactly as the ones in the photo. Where does it come from? It is not from the sales listing. Or yes?

Thanks!

JP

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JPBARNA said..
So maybe I have a really rare model because it is 342cm x 64cm wide (maybe I can be off a few in the length as measured alone and picking the tape at first try), so could be 345 but I would say 342 or 344 is the real size.

Any more similar ones? The decals are exactly as the ones in the photo. Where does it come from? It is not from the sales listing. Or yes?

Thanks!

JP

Measure it on the bottom of the hull right up on the curve of the rocker down the centreline from nose to tail. I have no idea what you are looking at or have. Suggest you post photos.

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RichardG said..

JPBARNA said..
So maybe I have a really rare model because it is 342cm x 64cm wide (maybe I can be off a few in the length as measured alone and picking the tape at first try), so could be 345 but I would say 342 or 344 is the real size.

Any more similar ones? The decals are exactly as the ones in the photo. Where does it come from? It is not from the sales listing. Or yes?

Thanks!

JP

Measure it on the bottom of the hull right up on the curve of the rocker down the centreline from nose to tail. I have no idea what you are looking at or have. Suggest you post photos.

A little bit of curve can make a big difference , says my wife
A relatively flat rockered 2.7 m board has between 20 to 25 mm extra length measured along the curve , apposed to actual length .
Im not sure how boards are measured . Working length or actual length .
It should be actual length or engineers worldwide are going to get upset .
Even if you measure a boards length with the tail pushed down on a flat bench , if you let a wave board sit naturally with its rear up 20 mm the total length will change .
Engineer crapping on now.
I blame IPA.

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JPBARNA said..

It does not appear to be an Aloha. It is a Fuego about which I know nothing. Looks around 1988-89 by the decals. Tiga 1985 showed the following:



Tiga 1986:

Measuring following the bottom curve it is 343.5cm so maybe the "engineer length" is 343.

By the way... I can't find more info about this model anywhere...

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JPBARNA said..
Measuring following the bottom curve it is 343.5cm so maybe the "engineer length" is 343.

By the way... I can't find more info about this model anywhere...

Engineer length 320 cm

Hi Richard, the one that seems closer in measurements is the Speed. It is a little shorter and 1cm thinner. Maybe it is a 1989 or 1990 evolution of it. I will keep looking :-)

I weighted it with fin, daggerboard and wet footstraps and it is "only" 23Kg

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JPBARNA said..
Hi Richard, the one that seems closer in measurements is the Speed. It is a little shorter and 1cm thinner. Maybe it is a 1989 or 1990 evolution of it. I will keep looking :-)

I weighted it with fin, daggerboard and wet footstraps and it is "only" 23Kg

I have no idea what it is. Based on its weight it sounds very heavy not something I would want. Hope you did not pay anything for it. That said it is good you are recycling it to save the environment.

I will review my notes as I weighted it with other 6 boards and maybe I'm off but it is heavy indeed.

By the way, I found that using this link in Archive.org just changing the part belonging to the issue, you can read old Windrider mags.

archive.org/details/wr893/page/n9/mode/2up

For example, wr893 is the March issue of year 1989.

So archive.org/details/wr894/page/n9/mode/2up is for April and so on.

I've looked for this Tiga in 1988 and it was not there...

have a look at the footstrap holes, yours seems to be more forward than those pics

And Imax, sailing hulls are measured along the waterline, so you need "marine engineer" not "engineer"

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decrepit said..
have a look at the footstrap holes, yours seems to be more forward than those pics

The front ones are just at the daggerboard line. As the Speed in the brochure. And the same layout of them than in the Aloha, but that is 20cm longer.

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decrepit said..
And Imax, sailing hulls are measured along the waterline, so you need "marine engineer" not "engineer"

I believe you are correct for sailboats and conventional vessels. However for length measurement of surfboards/sailboards, would you measure from tip of nose to the tail on the top of the board in a straight line or from the nose to the tail along the bottom curvature of the rocker? The top measurement will be a little shorter than the bottom, because of the additional distance of the curvature of the rocker. As far as I can recall when I had a board shaped by a very experienced shaper, and the measurement marked on the board for length was that of the bottom measurement. A difference of over an inch. Has this convention changed ? Is it different for sailboards ?

along the bottom centre line, that's what I meant by water line. It's the length of hull presented to the water.

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decrepit said..
along the bottom centre line, that's what I meant by water line. It's the length of hull presented to the water.

A vessel's waterline length (abbreviated to L.W.L) is the length of a ship or boat at the level where it sits in the water (the waterline). The LWL will be shorter than the length of the boat overall (length overall or LOA) as most boats have bows and stern protrusions that make the LOA greater than the LWL. Hence the geometry/shape of a surfboard/sailboard is actually quite different to conventional vessels with overall length on the top being shorter than the length on the curvature of the rocker. Waterline length might actually be another measure entirely but is not a matter to concern oneself with.

In a practical way the length of a board is the size of the silhouette I see in a magazine, multiplied by the scale of the image.

The relevance is the measurement on the board compared to how you measure it. And I'm sure Richard is correct, the measurement on the board will be from nose to tail along the bottom centre line.
That's certainly always been the way I've measured mine.
I was just pointing out to Imax, that an engineering length doesn't apply to marine vessels. Possibly something to do with working out drag in displacement hulls.