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Imax1
Imax1

QLD

4926 posts

8 Jun 2023 12:31pm
Thats awesome, at first glance I thought it was 35hp. Can't see any safety problems at all. Not like its top heavy and has a propellor on the bottom. Great for those light wind days and the days when you want to slice main arteries.
firiebob
firiebob

WA

3177 posts

8 Jun 2023 11:20am
That's nuts but honestly most of us would love to give it a rap
SurferKris
SurferKris

495 posts

8 Jun 2023 1:14pm
Looks like it is mounted backwards though...
Obelix
Obelix

WA

1149 posts

8 Jun 2023 3:19pm
Should be electrical though...
Imax1
Imax1

QLD

4926 posts

8 Jun 2023 6:21pm
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SurferKris said..
Looks like it is mounted backwards though...


It's front wheel drive.
jn1
jn1

jn1

SA

2683 posts

8 Jun 2023 7:46pm
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SurferKris said..
Looks like it is mounted backwards though...

Probably why they are selling it.
sailquik
sailquik

VIC

6166 posts

9 Jun 2023 10:28am
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SurferKris said..
Looks like it is mounted backwards though...




LOL! But the advert. says it has reverse gear.

It is weird though, because the controls and engine orientation look correct, but the transom mounting bracket is on backwards!??
Imax1
Imax1

QLD

4926 posts

9 Jun 2023 3:48pm
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sailquik said..





It is weird though, because the controls and engine orientation look correct, but the transom mounting bracket is on backwards!??







I can't figure it out.
There must be like 4 main bolts holding the whole top on, and he just flipped it around.
Is it because he put the hole through the board after mounting the main bracket and then realized it was on the wrong side?
Has anyone also realized that the adjustable shackle on the back connected to the D shackle will only work under tension. It won't work under compression because the prop will push the motor back.
More safety.
I'd like to know how drunk he was at the time.
Some people never got to play with Lego.
Some people should not own tools.
decrepit
decrepit

WA

12802 posts

9 Jun 2023 2:59pm
Actually it looks the right way round to me, captain sits in front of the motor as in an ordinary outboard, hanging on to tiller.
Or am I missing something?
MikeyS
MikeyS

VIC

1509 posts

9 Jun 2023 8:21pm
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decrepit said..
Actually it looks the right way round to me, captain sits in front of the motor as in an ordinary outboard, hanging on to tiller.
Or am I missing something?


Yep, you're missing something. If this was mounted to the transom of a (let's say,) tinnie, the shaft would have to pass through the bottom of the hull. See, the transom mounting clamps are facing backwards, and the trim adjustment (the series of 5 holes) are facing forwards, which is the opposite of how you mount an outboard.

I think this is one of those outboards that can rotate through 360 degrees about the axis of the drive shaft, like a trolling motor.

As for mounting it on a wally, I'll bite my tongue.
AusMoz
AusMoz

QLD

1510 posts

9 Jun 2023 9:02pm
Where does the foil go?
Imax1
Imax1

QLD

4926 posts

9 Jun 2023 10:35pm
On the top
aeroegnr
aeroegnr

1747 posts

9 Jun 2023 9:01pm
I'll be watching this show from the bar on the beach (+0.01deg toe in on the bar makes the drinks work faster)


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decrepit
decrepit

WA

12802 posts

9 Jun 2023 9:40pm
So, it's mounted backwards, but it's turned 360 degrees. Does that matter?
Maybe it gets the weight distribution better?
tarquin1
tarquin1

954 posts

9 Jun 2023 11:20pm
Turned 360? 180 maybe.
decrepit
decrepit

WA

12802 posts

10 Jun 2023 9:02am
Of course!
It's a bugger getting old and stupid
Subsonic
Subsonic

WA

3384 posts

10 Jun 2023 9:21am
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Imax1 said..

sailquik said..






It is weird though, because the controls and engine orientation look correct, but the transom mounting bracket is on backwards!??








I can't figure it out.
There must be like 4 main bolts holding the whole top on, and he just flipped it around.
Is it because he put the hole through the board after mounting the main bracket and then realized it was on the wrong side?
Has anyone also realized that the adjustable shackle on the back connected to the D shackle will only work under tension. It won't work under compression because the prop will push the motor back.
More safety.
I'd like to know how drunk he was at the time.
Some people never got to play with Lego.
Some people should not own tools.


I think he figured out the leverage scenario would give it a slightly longer life if he mounted it that way round so the homemade bracket's under compression, not getting lifted.

still be fun to watch, till it flips over and the outboard drowns. Or the undoubtably not re-enforced section of foam/glass/plastic (what'd they make those things out of?) he attached it to fails.
HotBodMon
HotBodMon

NSW

612 posts

10 Jun 2023 11:22am
Imax1
Imax1

QLD

4926 posts

10 Jun 2023 11:35am
Can someone please buy it and test it. Would it be enough power to get it planing ? Need video.
SurferKris
SurferKris

495 posts

10 Jun 2023 8:32pm
"Scrapheap challenge" in the UK had a foil competition/episode in 2002, I think. I don't have access to the video, but if I remember correctly then one team did put an engine and v-shape foils on a surfboard. Well ahead of their time.
peterowensbabs
peterowensbabs

NSW

497 posts

10 Jun 2023 10:38pm
Needs more downhaul.
MarkSSC
MarkSSC

QLD

642 posts

13 Jun 2023 1:30pm
I don't think that anyone has mentioned the fuel tank? Does it strap to your back? Perhaps the board itself is a tank (fuel floats on water), just like how they use aeroplane wings. That might be too complex so my guess is that they put it on the deck inside an old esky so that you can sit on it. Newton tells me that there is going to be some equal and opposite reactions when the engine fires up and the machine goes full inertial.
SurferKris
SurferKris

495 posts

13 Jun 2023 1:06pm
It is a small engine (3.5hp) and it has a built in tank, you can see the cap at the top.

A lead centerboard might be needed for balance....
MarkSSC
MarkSSC

QLD

642 posts

14 Jun 2023 4:36pm
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SurferKris said..
It is a small engine (3.5hp) and it has a built in tank, you can see the cap at the top.

That is a very space for a fuel tank plus it would be very close to hot sections of the motor which are normally underneath the cover. Furthermore, there has to be a fuel line somewhere to enable the fuel to get to the inlet manifold. Maybe we would know more if the cover was open.
nev
nev

nev

NSW

58 posts

14 Jun 2023 10:47pm
most small outboards have that style of integrated tank and they work fine. they can also be spun around though 360 degree's and work fine. many don't have a gear box and you just spin then around to go backward. I think he has done a good job. motor would weigh less then 15kg and the wally has 200l so would float ok. easy to make some sort of prop guard or just use the lanyard to the kill switch. would be sketchy but fun. ?
Imax1
Imax1

QLD

4926 posts

15 Jun 2023 7:01am
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nev said..
they can also be spun around though 360 degree's and work fine. many don't have a gear box and you just spin then around to go backward.


Really ? So you would have to lean way out the back of a tiny boat to operate the throttle ?
nev
nev

nev

NSW

58 posts

15 Jun 2023 12:52pm
yeah, usually a slide type throttle on small 2 strokes rather then a twist throttle on the tiller
Subsonic
Subsonic

WA

3384 posts

15 Jun 2023 10:37pm
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nev said..
most small outboards have that style of integrated tank and they work fine. they can also be spun around though 360 degree's and work fine. many don't have a gear box and you just spin then around to go backward. I think he has done a good job. motor would weigh less then 15kg and the wally has 200l so would float ok. easy to make some sort of prop guard or just use the lanyard to the kill switch. would be sketchy but fun. ?


Yep, i too think hes done about as good a job on it as could be done (aside from the turnbuckle fitting that won't work under compression that Imax pointed out)

Still can't change the fact that it a slightly more stable upside down iceberg when a human is added. Nor the fact that despite that reasonbly beefy looking bracket, it's still attached to what will be (at best) thin plastic and styrofoam.
nothing better to do 3 beers into the night i suppose.
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