I'm not going to observer the starboard rule anymore because I'm only 2% of the people sailing on the broadwater and I won't really make a difference anyway.

Sounds like you are 99% of the way towards making the decision to change over to kiting

Me English write good.

Hands up windsurfers who know the port/starboard thing? We are sailors after all.

Hopefully ... Everyone has their hand up, it's not complicated.

ive been pissed off more than once by those who dont know it or dont observe it.

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evlPanda said...

I'm only 2% of the people sailing on the broadwater

are you mistral nick? hangon, i bet you are Lana you trickster

lately it seems most broadwaterers are obeying the JP or naish rule

Hey evl, come sail on Sydney harbour and give me some tickets for the show.

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saltiest1 said...

ive been pissed off more than once by those who dont know it or dont observe it.

PISSED OFF, at what, someone didnt give you way and you got upset and it hurt your feelings

^^ thats most peoples response

but when your flying over the water at 50-60 knots towards eachother you need to know who is going what way...

IF YOUR ON THE WATER YOU NEED TO KNOW

Hey man, it's not like all the kiters are doing it, and certainly not the jet skis. Hardly any boats even notice me.

So what's the point? I'm just one guy. 1.5% It won't make any difference.
And it really stuffs up my perfect runs sometimes.

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Hey man, it's not like all the kiters are doing it, and certainly not the jet skis. Hardly any boats even notice me.

So what's the point? I'm just one guy. 1.5% It won't make any difference.
And it really stuffs up my perfect runs sometimes.

Whats the point? There are two, usually one at the front of the board and another at the tip of the fin..



Needles to say, this is a pretty bad attitude, we all hold everybody else's safety in our hands when we hit the water.

The funny thing is that by disagreeing with Panda you've proven his point

Starboard, they make boards, I wouldn't say they rule.
Right of way,
I'm right and someone else is usually in my way. (mostly Gavin)

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evlPanda said...

Hey man, it's not like all the kiters are doing it, and certainly not the jet skis. Hardly any boats even notice me.

So what's the point? I'm just one guy. 1.5% It won't make any difference.
And it really stuffs up my perfect runs sometimes.

all comes down to education.... errrr yea that stuff if everyone got a bit of that stuff then we would know, i just look at our local spot, crammed with a lot of people, mostly intermediate with little or no planing board control its not that they dont know the rules its that they arent at a stage where they can easily sail out the way


my rule, aim for the gaps, and a bright blue rashie helps as well

Despite the fact I jumped into this sport last year and before I was kiting ...
Here in Bermuda there is only one rule, the guy before the last one in the water can't leave the beach until the last one is closer to the beach.
Remember, if something happens in the water, only another Windsurfer/Kiter may save your life so always respect other people in the water.
Just kill the sag ban on the jet-sky!
Last year one kiter smashed his head on a rock, almost 2 miles away from the shore and thanks to another kiter he was able to be seen and saved; then he spent 1 year in Boston in an hospital but now he is safely back home.

What if you are sailing along clew first? [}:)]

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da vecta said...

What if you are sailing along clew first? [}:)]

you think this will change the side of the board from which the wind is coming?

Did no one really get it?

what if u are doing a rail ride?

or half way through a spin trick or riding fin first.
Yeah we got it.

Starboard rule is for your own safety, give way when your on port tack and presume others wont give way when your on starboard tack.

As waterways get more crowded and more used - i would be looking to aford people more courtesy rather than less. May save you a nasty on water collision or carpark fat lip.

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boardboy said...

da vecta said...

What if you are sailing along clew first? [}:)]

you think this will change the side of the board from which the wind is coming?

hell yes, if it means I can cross in front anyone that thinks I am serious.

I've come up with a fair three point guideline for all water craft.

1) Windsurfers give right of way to other Windsurfers on starboard tack.
2) All other water craft give way to Windsurfers.
3) Kitesurfers give way to all other water craft.

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da vecta said...
2) All other water craft give way to Windsurfers.

And insure yourself to the end of the earth and say goodbye to your wife and kids before every session.

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saltiest1 said...

ive been pissed off more than once by those who dont know it or dont observe it.

PISSED OFF, at what, someone didnt give you way and you got upset and it hurt your feelings

^^ thats most peoples response

but when your flying over the water at 50-60 knots towards eachother you need to know who is going what way...

IF YOUR ON THE WATER YOU NEED TO KNOW

actually nearly landed on the bloke. i woulda been fine.

You also have to remember that in a marked channel motor has right of way over sail regardless of being on starboard or port. Makes sailing in some areas very difficult ie Manly

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evlPanda said...

I'm not going to observer the starboard rule anymore because I'm only 2% of the people sailing on the broadwater and I won't really make a difference anyway.

They're good but I prefer Naish

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jc13 said...

You also have to remember that in a marked channel motor has right of way over sail regardless of being on starboard or port. Makes sailing in some areas very difficult ie Manly

Is that a local rule? It's certainly not in Colregs (the international collision regulations).

A vessel must make allowances for a vessel that cannot manoeuvre, for example if one of them is restricted by being in a narrow channel and the other isn't so restricted. But power giving way to sail certainly isn't a general rule in channels.

Guess I was reading into it too much, thought it was a comment on the climate debate. Would have proved a nice point if it was.

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Squid Lips said...

Guess I was reading into it too much, thought it was a comment on the climate debate. Would have proved a nice point if it was.