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Planing out of tacks

Created by Manuel7 Manuel7  > 9 months ago, 18 Dec 2020
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Manuel7
Manuel7

1331 posts

18 Dec 2020 2:37am
Yoohoo planing freaks!

I'm wondering if you've ever tacked somehow with so much speed that you were able to plane right back out.

Thinking it needs lots of power, a big board (i.e. freestyle) and somehow carve and pump downwind to keep the plane maybe on a swell or wave?

Sounds challenging and impossible...!?
LeeD
LeeD

3939 posts

18 Dec 2020 6:38am
It's possible, if you're quick, the wind is strong, and you consider planing with your feet forward of the straps as planing.
Manuel7
Manuel7

1331 posts

21 Dec 2020 8:03am
Got vids? It'd have to be a super quick carve.
LeeD
LeeD

3939 posts

21 Dec 2020 8:14am
Just go to a race. The best little guys plane thru even on 12' boards. Gephardt and Teddy for sure. And lightweight freestylers plane thru tacks lots of times.
duzzi
duzzi

1123 posts

21 Dec 2020 9:06am
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Manuel7 said..
Yoohoo planing freaks!

I'm wondering if you've ever tacked somehow with so much speed that you were able to plane right back out.

Thinking it needs lots of power, a big board (i.e. freestyle) and somehow carve and pump downwind to keep the plane maybe on a swell or wave?

Sounds challenging and impossible...!?


What do you mean planing out of tack? I generally swim out of a tack!
Manuel7
Manuel7

1331 posts

23 Dec 2020 10:22am
Switch to other side and keep the plane as we carve upwind, then pump like crazy to keep going without dropping.
boardsurfr
boardsurfr

WA

2454 posts

24 Dec 2020 12:23am
Get a foil! Racers plane through foils, at least in training videos when the water is flat and nobody else is around. Some of the best freestylers foil through duck tacks and heli tacks. I saw Andy Brandt almost foil through several duck tacks in the last few days; he touched down briefly at the end, and probably kept planing speed through the entire turn.
Staying on the foil through upwind in a tack is pretty easy. My big foilboard definitely still planes when I touch down during the foot switch, but I'm too slow and clumsy to keep it planing. Even in decent tacks, my speed usually drops to 2.5 - 3 knots. But that's with a slow foil (SS i84). Coming in with a race foil at ~ 2x the entry speed should make it easier to keep planing speeds.
Manuel7
Manuel7

1331 posts

24 Dec 2020 2:51am
Right but foiling is a bit like skating. I can plane through many moves on my skate which is a lot of fun but more apparent wind related. The challenge as you know on a classic windsurf is to maintain the plane. I could point super high on my formula board at the tack but the fin would make it super slow to carve and head back downwind. While on a freestyle board we can pivot off the back much quicker.

Please do post your vids if you have some super fast tacks. I remember seeing some from the 90s, yet, they are not focused on keeping the plane just tack tack.

I think tacking off of a steep wave early and then use it to ride down. Timing has to be perfect and the wave must be sufficiently powerful!
sailquik
sailquik

VIC

6166 posts

24 Dec 2020 11:29am
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LeeD said..
Just go to a race. The best little guys plane thru even on 12' boards. Gephardt and Teddy for sure. And lightweight freestylers plane thru tacks lots of times.


Post Video's, or it didn't happen.
AusMoz
AusMoz

QLD

1510 posts

24 Dec 2020 11:42am
Tacking fast as you can on a board with no grip= crushed nuts!
decrepit
decrepit

WA

12802 posts

24 Dec 2020 11:47am
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AusMoz said..
Tacking fast as you can on a board with no grip= crushed nuts!


It's worse with square rails
Subsonic
Subsonic

WA

3384 posts

24 Dec 2020 12:53pm
I eagerly await some footage of someone planing out of a tack on normal gear.

Already footage out there of planing tacks on foils, but on normal kit the best tacks i've seen still involve a full stall.
RuaraidhK257
RuaraidhK257

70 posts

24 Dec 2020 6:10pm
I've just about managed it a few times but as I have no footage of it, who can believe me?!??

however, on the continent seven website I'm pretty sure there's a video of Jaeger (who arguably has the best non racing tacks in the world) doing one in pozo I think
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