Am looking at super cheap 6,5 or 7,0 2020 Turbos (new). I fancy the 6,5 size but wonder whether just having one low down cam makes it worth the difference with my 6,5 Gator. Its for flat water fast cruising in gusty winds.

its not that I desperately need this as Gator works fine, but am liking the 8m Turbo so fancy trying smaller given the price. So 6,0 one cam, 7,0 two cam or just get over the itch ?

appreciate your thoughts.

I have a 6.0 NCX and a 6.0 Turbo and the difference between these two is significant (mostly gust stability and better out of gybes) so I reckon would be even bigger improvement relative to the Gator.
My Turbo was 2 cam but actually works better with the top cam out so it's now single cam.

Take a cam out ? Interesting. You can just remove the cam and go or is there more to do ?

I have the Unit 7.0 which was the predecessor of the Turbo. I love the sail for lightwind freeriding, as it gets me planning very early. I sail it on an old 103 Staboard kode. At 75kg this set gets me going in about 13-14 knots, up to 18knots average I would say. The sail is very light and you don't feel the cam in any negative way. Duckjibes, tacks, etc. are easy with it. Sailed it in Lake garda, with others on Gators and NCX, but this sail definitely planes earlier.

Once it gets difficult to hold on to, I rig down to 5.3 blade and switch to a 95L fsw. I used to have a 6.2 blade in between these two sails, but realized two years ago it was not needed. Too much overlap windrange, and this only leads to confusion when deciding what to rig.

The only drawback is the high end is not as good as the NCX, so if you look for a sail to go fast and powered up, I wouldn't go for the Turbo. But for me powered up sailing is not what I use it for.

Putting the cams aside in the conversation, the differences between the sails I would expect is the Gator has a flatter profile, tighter leech, higher foot, shorter boom, centre of effort higher up, for manoeuvrability and low end. The Turbo will have deeper profile below the boom and a looser leech, lower foot, longer boom for power lower down the sail, higher stability for a higher top speed.

When Tushingham dropped their 3 sail freeride range, (2 cam, no cam 6/7 batten, 5 batten power wave) to consolidate into a 1 sail line, the Bolt, the 6.5m was a 5 batten 'free-move' type sail. Not what I was looking for for flat water blasting.

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Jasonwave said..
Am looking at super cheap 6,5 or 7,0 2020 Turbos (new). I fancy the 6,5 size but wonder whether just having one low down cam makes it worth the difference with my 6,5 Gator. Its for flat water fast cruising in gusty winds.

its not that I desperately need this as Gator works fine, but am liking the 8m Turbo so fancy trying smaller given the price. So 6,0 one cam, 7,0 two cam or just get over the itch ?

appreciate your thoughts.

I've got the 6.5m Turbo and a 5.7m Gator.
I use them on a Windtech 57 ( 90ltres) in chop.
The Turbo rotates beautifully on rdm and I prefer them to no cam until the chop builds up.
I prefer the Turbo in up to a gusty 19kts as its more powerful and stable.
Once it's over 20kts the gator is good as you can shut the power off. I don't really like freeride sails but they are great in stronger winds and chop.
I weigh about 74kgs fully kitted up.

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yaden said..
I have the Unit 7.0 which was the predecessor of the Turbo. I love the sail for lightwind freeriding, as it gets me planning very early. I sail it on an old 103 Staboard kode. At 75kg this set gets me going in about 13-14 knots, up to 18knots average I would say. The sail is very light and you don't feel the cam in any negative way. Duckjibes, tacks, etc. are easy with it. Sailed it in Lake garda, with others on Gators and NCX, but this sail definitely planes earlier.

Once it gets difficult to hold on to, I rig down to 5.3 blade and switch to a 95L fsw. I used to have a 6.2 blade in between these two sails, but realized two years ago it was not needed. Too much overlap windrange, and this only leads to confusion when deciding what to rig.

The only drawback is the high end is not as good as the NCX, so if you look for a sail to go fast and powered up, I wouldn't go for the Turbo. But for me powered up sailing is not what I use it for.

I'm surprised you say the top end isn't as good as an NCX.
I haven't sailed NCX s but the Turbo has a good foot so is good for bearaways and trying for speed off the wind.
Not as good as an OD but more chop friendly.

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Jasonwave said..
Am looking at super cheap 6,5 or 7,0 2020 Turbos (new). I fancy the 6,5 size but wonder whether just having one low down cam makes it worth the difference with my 6,5 Gator. Its for flat water fast cruising in gusty winds.

its not that I desperately need this as Gator works fine, but am liking the 8m Turbo so fancy trying smaller given the price. So 6,0 one cam, 7,0 two cam or just get over the itch ?

appreciate your thoughts.

One cam? Turbos are twin cam.?

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yaden said..
I have the Unit 7.0 which was the predecessor of the Turbo. I love the sail for lightwind freeriding, as it gets me planning very early. I sail it on an old 103 Staboard kode. At 75kg this set gets me going in about 13-14 knots, up to 18knots average I would say. The sail is very light and you don't feel the cam in any negative way. Duckjibes, tacks, etc. are easy with it. Sailed it in Lake garda, with others on Gators and NCX, but this sail definitely planes earlier.

Once it gets difficult to hold on to, I rig down to 5.3 blade and switch to a 95L fsw. I used to have a 6.2 blade in between these two sails, but realized two years ago it was not needed. Too much overlap windrange, and this only leads to confusion when deciding what to rig.

The only drawback is the high end is not as good as the NCX, so if you look for a sail to go fast and powered up, I wouldn't go for the Turbo. But for me powered up sailing is not what I use it for.

I'm surprised you say the top end isn't as good as an NCX.
I haven't sailed NCX s but the Turbo has a good foot so is good for bearaways and trying for speed off the wind.
Not as good as an OD but more chop friendly.

The 7.0 I have was from the year when they were still 5 battens. A 7.0 NCX has 7 battens en more loose leach.
The sail is stable but once gusts get over 20 knots you start to feel it, the camber is only located under the boom, so I don't think it helps a lot to stabilize the profile in the upper part of the sail.

Thank you.

where I sail 20 knts is a windy day.

I am concluding that 7m Turbo is the way to go - its a 2020 (new) so super cheap which is fine for me.
I am hoping it works on both my boards : 125L 78 cm wide and a 97L 64 cm wide. I am 80 kg fully kitted after lunch.

I think it will be perfect for the boards you want to use it with up to 20knots. 7.0 should fit on both boards.

Should be great.
I notice the instability compared to a 3 cam is I'm speed sailing but I don't sail that powered up in chop and they are great, certainly more stable than non cammed.!