For me at 88 kg = 94 litre fanatic quad 12 model, use with 5.7 / 5.3 from 15 knots to 30 knots for waves and blasting perfect one board for east coast conditions. Now have a sup Allwave, surfboard, and kona mini tanker, all conditions covered, but 94 quad is the only one i couldn't do with out, and use 75 % time wave sailing. Rest of time on water just surfing and use the sup for the small days.

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PhilSWR said...

GazMan said...

jn1 said...
My 95L FSW board with the straps out.

Recently picked up a 2006 JP FSW 85 in very good nic and wished it had outboard strap positions to make it more of a fast freeride (pretty sure that JP FSW's from 2007 on had outboard strap option).

Do agree, can't go past a good FSW for all-round versatility.

Gazman, my 2008 JP FSW has an out boaund strap positon. Used them a few times on the lake with the cammed sail. Feels slightly more comfortable for speed (though I'm slow...) but for me it wasn't worth the effort changing the strap setting. Feels fine on flatwater in the "wave" position.

Am use to the feel and speed of a fast freeride board with outboard straps (i.e. Mistral Flow/Fanatic Hawk/Tabou Rocket) and my JP FSW still feels a bit slow with a 28cm Hawk freeride fin and inboard straps on flattish water. Different story on a choppy/bumpy ocean, then the FSW edges ahead in comfort, handling, turning and possibly all-round speed (depending on rider!).

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jn1 said...
My 95L FSW board with the straps out.

As mentioned don't have outboard strap option on my JP FSW, though curious to know if there is any benefit in using outboard straps on an FSW with a smaller wave fin (around 25cm) as would appear to me that one would need to use outboard straps AND a more upright freeride fin to get that 'driving-off-the-fin' feel with an FSW. Make sense?

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GazMan said...
As mentioned don't have outboard strap option on my JP FSW, though curious to know if there is any benefit in using outboard straps on an FSW with a smaller wave fin (around 25cm) as would appear to me that one would need to use outboard straps AND a more upright freeride fin to get that 'driving-off-the-fin' feel with an FSW. Make sense?

Use 25cm wave, 27cm wave and 30cm freeride fins in this board. I'm an underpowered sailor and normally rig 1 to 1.5m less than everyone else (even people equal to my weight), so probably can get away with this setup. People have commented that outward straps aren't the norm for this particular board due to it's buoyancy distribution (but that's another story). It works for me :)

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scott265 said...

MartinF2 said...

scott265 said...
F2 Sputnik 265 World Cup edition. Super fast and jumps as well as just looking nuts. Wish I could find another one.

Sorry to be off topic.

I have a mint condition one if you are possibly interested.
Cheers
Marty

Hell yeah let me know the location and price

Email sent Scott.
Cheers
Marty

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GazMan said...
As mentioned don't have outboard strap option on my JP FSW, though curious to know if there is any benefit in using outboard straps on an FSW with a smaller wave fin (around 25cm) as would appear to me that one would need to use outboard straps AND a more upright freeride fin to get that 'driving-off-the-fin' feel with an FSW. Make sense?

Use 25cm wave, 27cm wave and 30cm freeride fins in this board. I'm an underpowered sailor and normally rig 1 to 1.5m less than everyone else (even people equal to my weight), so probably can get away with this setup. People have commented that outward straps aren't the norm for this particular board due to it's buoyancy distribution (but that's another story). It works for me :)

I have a 2012 Fanatic Skate TE 109 (freestyle board). For 12 months after my kit was stolen it was my do everything board (big wave board, go fast board etc). What would make this board perfect is outboard straps. The inboard straps are great for waves and bump and jump with a 23cm onshore wavefin , but for flat water when I use a 30cm freeride fin it would be great to have the straps outboard to leverage lift from the fin and generate speed. Gazman, I reckon outboards would be of no use to you if using a small fin, as you would be standing more upright and driving a rail rather than the fin. The outboards are only of use with a bigger fin or extremely overpowered on flat water (I am not a technical sailor, this is just from my experience on the skate).

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jn1 said...

GazMan said...
As mentioned don't have outboard strap option on my JP FSW, though curious to know if there is any benefit in using outboard straps on an FSW with a smaller wave fin (around 25cm) as would appear to me that one would need to use outboard straps AND a more upright freeride fin to get that 'driving-off-the-fin' feel with an FSW. Make sense?

Use 25cm wave, 27cm wave and 30cm freeride fins in this board. I'm an underpowered sailor and normally rig 1 to 1.5m less than everyone else (even people equal to my weight), so probably can get away with this setup. People have commented that outward straps aren't the norm for this particular board due to it's buoyancy distribution (but that's another story). It works for me :)

I have a 2012 Fanatic Skate TE 109 (freestyle board). For 12 months after my kit was stolen it was my do everything board (big wave board, go fast board etc). What would make this board perfect is outboard straps. The inboard straps are great for waves and bump and jump with a 23cm onshore wavefin , but for flat water when I use a 30cm freeride fin it would be great to have the straps outboard to leverage lift from the fin and generate speed. Gazman, I reckon outboards would be of no use to you if using a small fin, as you would be standing more upright and driving a rail rather than the fin. The outboards are only of use with a bigger fin or extremely overpowered on flat water (I am not a technical sailor, this is just from my experience on the skate).

The Skate sounds like a winner Adam- and you certainly ride it well- waves or flatwater. It's got an unusual shape, but certainly a versitile little board! Here's a pic of it along side a JP 93 Thruster.

PS- Hanging to ride your JP 93, book me in for a run real soon.

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jn1 said...

GazMan said...
As mentioned don't have outboard strap option on my JP FSW, though curious to know if there is any benefit in using outboard straps on an FSW with a smaller wave fin (around 25cm) as would appear to me that one would need to use outboard straps AND a more upright freeride fin to get that 'driving-off-the-fin' feel with an FSW. Make sense?

Use 25cm wave, 27cm wave and 30cm freeride fins in this board. I'm an underpowered sailor and normally rig 1 to 1.5m less than everyone else (even people equal to my weight), so probably can get away with this setup. People have commented that outward straps aren't the norm for this particular board due to it's buoyancy distribution (but that's another story). It works for me :)

I have a 2012 Fanatic Skate TE 109 (freestyle board). For 12 months after my kit was stolen it was my do everything board (big wave board, go fast board etc). What would make this board perfect is outboard straps. The inboard straps are great for waves and bump and jump with a 23cm onshore wavefin , but for flat water when I use a 30cm freeride fin it would be great to have the straps outboard to leverage lift from the fin and generate speed. Gazman, I reckon outboards would be of no use to you if using a small fin, as you would be standing more upright and driving a rail rather than the fin. The outboards are only of use with a bigger fin or extremely overpowered on flat water (I am not a technical sailor, this is just from my experience on the skate).

Pretty much what I suspected!

this is my one board quiver. designed by myself primarily with some help from nxs, built by nxs

here is my other one board quiver. not designed by me but designed for me.
takes a sail for surf and a centre fin for flatwater, or just go surfing/sup'ing..

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Gestalt said...
this is my one board quiver. designed by myself primarily with some help from nxs, built by nxs

Smart looking board, what are the specs?

specs are

Dimensions - 240cmx71cm ofo 46cm
Bottom shape - single concave into double concave spiral V into flat V, scooped slalom rocker.
Rail shape - hard tucked tail through to soft mid section
Tail shape - squashed pin with chamfer
Fin setup - single/tri fin convertible. powerbox/fin solutions.
Pads - Heel bumpers plus 6mm pads
grip - full deck grip coat.
Construction - double vacuum bagged timber veneer and hardcore foam sandwich. carbon kevlar reinforced impact and high stress areas.

i did the graphics in photoshop then transfered to cad and laser cut stencils for spraying. board i designed in cad and templates were cut.

i use the board from 12kn/6.4m to 35kn/4.7m. have used it in everything from flat/choppy water to small waves/rolling bay swells. others have used it to do freestyle. it's basically a freestyle wave board for my 110kg. to get more of a wave bias i would make the tail more pin orientated but that reduces the planning threshold slightly. on this board we tried 3 different tails and 2 outlines. rocker was a known quantity from previous designs.

interesting the talk of outboard straps. i agree they are needed. i just missed the boat with my board. it was an after thought i had but by the time i had spoken to the shaper the vacumm bagging and bump pads had been completed so i was reluctant to get him to cut up the board and install extra plugs.

i use the board in freeride mode with a 32cm freewave fin and a 6.4m it handles that well. if i had outboard straps i could go to a 42cm fin and 7.5-8m sail for more slalom type blasting. in small surf or high wind sailing i use it as a tri fin. the tri fin option adds a fair bit to the top end of the boards wind range.
in medium winds i usually go with a 24cm freestyle fin and the 5.8 or 5.3m sail.

this board was laser measured for cnc production. all production versions of the board got the inboard outboard rear strap option.

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Gestalt said...
specs are

Dimensions - 240cmx71cm ofo 46cm
Bottom shape - single concave into double concave spiral V into flat V, scooped slalom rocker.
Rail shape - hard tucked tail through to soft mid section
Tail shape - squashed pin with chamfer
Fin setup - single/tri fin convertible. powerbox/fin solutions.
Pads - Heel bumpers plus 6mm pads
grip - full deck grip coat.
Construction - double vacuum bagged timber veneer and hardcore foam sandwich. carbon kevlar reinforced impact and high stress areas.

i did the graphics in photoshop then transfered to cad and laser cut stencils for spraying. board i designed in cad and templates were cut.

i use the board from 12kn/6.4m to 35kn/4.7m. have used it in everything from flat/choppy water to small waves/rolling bay swells. others have used it to do freestyle. it's basically a freestyle wave board for my 110kg. to get more of a wave bias i would make the tail more pin orientated but that reduces the planning threshold slightly. on this board we tried 3 different tails and 2 outlines. rocker was a known quantity from previous designs.

interesting the talk of outboard straps. i agree they are needed. i just missed the boat with my board. it was an after thought i had but by the time i had spoken to the shaper the vacumm bagging and bump pads had been completed so i was reluctant to get him to cut up the board and install extra plugs.

i use the board in freeride mode with a 32cm freewave fin and a 6.4m it handles that well. if i had outboard straps i could go to a 42cm fin and 7.5-8m sail for more slalom type blasting. in small surf or high wind sailing i use it as a tri fin. the tri fin option adds a fair bit to the top end of the boards wind range.
in medium winds i usually go with a 24cm freestyle fin and the 5.8 or 5.3m sail.

this board was laser measured for cnc production. all production versions of the board got the inboard outboard rear strap option.

Nice bit of work Gestalt, though do the front straps get the inboard/outboard option as well?

sorry gazman i missed your post.

cheers for the complement too.

i'm not sure what the shaper ended up doing there. probably just turned the front plugs 90degrees. but not sure.

i was chasing double rear straps with a 50mm or so rear strap gap. so wasn't going to worry about the front.