Hi Seabreeze members,

I present a short-film featuring my father demonstrating some old school windsurf freestyle. It was filmed by me using a Panasonic FZ150. I edited it using Adobe Premiere with the help of my brother. I hope you like it! :)

Brilliant! I think the majority have forgotten the simple pleasures of these old school boards.

Ahhh, the good old Wayler...
The idea behind windsurfing is fun and exercise, regardless of the format. Kudos.

Your old man don't look that old by the way... now the pressure's on you to post a clip of your riding the rail !!

wayler....there you go!

The Wayler is the best oldschool freestyle board ever build!
Great fun riding it!!!

Thanks for all the comments :)

Hey Pedro, I have the same board and sail, I have only just started windsurfing, only been on the water twice now and loving it. I just have one BIG question, i have just tried this sail today but having issues, can u please show me how to tie off the old boom to the mast properly please. I can sort of tie off my other 4.5 sail and boom, but having massive issues getting this one right.

Any help would be great

Damien

@ deejay8204

Very easy.

Rigging old school…..

Need a mast, some rope and a boom.






Take the rope and put it around the mast.






Put it through the hole.




into the clam.
...Job done.





If you got an extra hole (which I don't have)
...you can go around the mast twice.
Solid as a rock.





Have fun…….

This pictures above work only if you have the cleat thing near the mast, which I don't remember the Wayler booms always having.
If you don't have a cleat , let us know and I will post the Windsurfer (no-cleat) way.

In the end the tie-on works well, but requires more fiddling of course...

AND

To get the line tight, ie really tight so the boom doesn't slip, after threading the rope lift the boom so it's parallel with the mast. Then pull it tight. Then lower the boom to make it really tight.

And I used to tighten the little rope around the mast (as hard as I could) with the boom (wishbone!) at an angle (45 deg ?) facing up, so it then would fall down in a more horizontal position and tightening even more the knot.

Yep, Pinarelo, Corsica, 1980 -1985, Hi Fly, Jet GTS and Dufour...

Not sure if it came before or after, but I remember having no cleat on the boom. You had to lay the boom along the mast and thread the rope through with a little loop, stick the end of the rope through the loop, and drop the boom down into position. Worked a treat, but I do remember seeing one or two masts cracked because it had been done too tight!!

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raftcrew said...

Not sure if it came before or after, but I remember having no cleat on the boom. You had to lay the boom along the mast and thread the rope through with a little loop, stick the end of the rope through the loop, and drop the boom down into position. Worked a treat, but I do remember seeing one or two masts cracked because it had been done too tight!!

You're right about the risk of breaking the mast.

I still sail old rigs in lesser winds. I use the plastic mast thing that comes when I purchase moderm 2-piece masts. I have no idea what it's for for my short rig, but I use it on 1-piece old fibermasts. I think it spreads the load, never broke one.

Also have fiberglassed that part in the olden days - never broke there too.

Thanks guys, I will post some pics tomorrow of my setup, I think I will stick to the smaller sail for now as the big one was a little to big I think. Btw being an old board the tail fin was epoxied in and the glue joint broke on me today, should I use fiberglass resin to affix it in place or just good 2part epoxy (24hr epoxy). Also is there a clamp on boom anywhere around for cheap that would fit? My boom length is 227cm tip to tip for my smaller sail.
Thanks again

Damien

Hi! deejay8204 i will wait for that pics, you can post here if you want :)

Thanks pedrowind, it is an awesome board. I have the Wayler 5.9 sail and a Freedom Sails 4.5 I think. It is not as good condition as your dads, but it will do me to learn on and advance my skills.

I have a thing for vintage things, i like to see them working and running, so this one will have a place to stay for a very long time.

Pics will be up soon, I have just given it all a clean down from yesterday at the beach.

here are the pics of my board, I have only rigged it for the pics only so the tying side of things is bad.

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pierrec45 said...

This pictures above work only if you have the cleat thing near the mast, which I don't remember the Wayler booms always having.
If you don't have a cleat , let us know and I will post the Windsurfer (no-cleat) way.

In the end the tie-on works well, but requires more fiddling of course...

yes please as my other boom doesn't have one

Is good to be back to the old school windsurfing, next summer i will make a new old school video :)

As I said above I have a thing for vintage, I love to see old stuff working and working properly. I am only 30 and people think I am weird for liking vintage machinery etc. I dont care as long as it looks good and goes good. (Bring back Horse and Carriage fuel is too expensive lol)

deejay8204 you are correct ahaha and here in Portugal we have one of the most expensive fuel in Europe! Lets get back to the past!!!

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PedroWind said...

Is good to be back to the old school windsurfing, next summer i will make a new old school video :)

There are quite a few of those on the Web. Look at the original Windsurfer site, the recent OD Aussie champ'ships, the 'worlds' at Miami 3 years ago, the railrides at the last US champ'ships, the Gorge's King of the Hook annuel event, some at the old Canadian freestyle Jam, a few Kona freestyle clips, and so on. The NY champ'ships a few months ago had little wind, so was all the old way.

Facebook has a few too.

Booms: any old shop has a spare parts bin at the back, you'll find early clamp-on that'll fit, some are actually surprisingly light. I never use'em though - a dinkum oldie board has tie-on boom, works as well for the freestyle you're getting into.

- pierrc45 - Im just no good at tying knots lol, The large Wayler 5.9 sail has such a large boom I just find it really difficult to tie for some reason, the little boom and sail I have I dont have much of an issue with. And for ease of use and progression I thought a clamp on would be the best upgrade for an an old board, boom and sail.

I will keep going till i find something that will work

you need a prusik hitch, bit hard to explain, anyone sail old boards where you are?

found this posting;
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/General/Help-Rigging-a-Boom/

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fjdoug said...

found this posting;
www.seabreeze.com.au/forums/Windsurfing/General/Help-Rigging-a-Boom/

The picture posted by snide8 is the right way. You can make old booms real tight with this knot. Use a manila rope, other ropes can stretch and loosen the boom. Just lay the boom flat against the mast before looping it in. Make sure the sail is in the mast first

Then be real careful as you bring the mast vertical: the boom tightens by itself, but don't snap the mast. If you use a plastic mast protector, you don't need be careful.

Another handy hint....

soak the rope in water for a minute or 2 before attaching boom - rope will not stretch as much when it hits the water, making a tighter connection......

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WINDSURFnSNOW said...

Another handy hint....

soak the rope in water for a minute or 2 before attaching boom - rope will not stretch as much when it hits the water, making a tighter connection......

This is an interesting sub-thread.
A proper rope won't stretch. For instance a halyard line on a larger sailboat cannot afford to stretch one bit, and it doesn't (noticeably).
Rope must be well-chosen, a good boat shop will know... the ropes (!) and properties: UV, stretch, float, elasticity for moorings, etc. Including bits for old windsurfers.

But if you have to use any old bit lying around, yes the above trick.
And/or, you use the rig for a few minutes on the ground, before going out. Looks crazy, but everybody else does it.
If the tie-on is wrong, it will have moved a bit. Then just re-tighten it, it's quick.