Depends on the jump Mr Wind

a backloop ideally requires a vertical ramp as I said.... doesn't matter if you do hit that at 80kpg, the nose of the board will not be initiated into a vertical and backwards arc

You can do a backie off that ramp but only just and you won't have enough time to then initiate a second rotation in the opposite direction.

It is nothing like kiting where the lift means you have time to do such things and the board is so light you can just move it with your feet, and even more importantly you are not rotating all the gear when kiting, you are just moving yourself and the board.

Plus height and speed does not mean you'll always "land it clean" or plane out of it. With windsurfing the forward momentum and sail power is converted into rotation, so in soem moves (particularly backwards rotations) the landing is a vertical drop. Again, because you don't have constant lift or power thru all moves like kiting does.
If you windsurfed you'd get it (hard to explain).

As I've said b4, I think the analogy is that in kiting you're the passenger and in windsurfing you're the pilot.

Cool,ok,
So cant get vertical and rotate unless hitting a vertical ram,like a snow ski freestyle jump, that sends you up pretty much upsidedown as you hit it,,if you like it or not.Found that out in Canada

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Mark _australia said...
As I've said b4, I think the analogy is that in kiting you're the passenger and in windsurfing you're the pilot.

I have in no way compared ,or wanted to compare, it to kiteing.
but that comment reminds me of what I read somewhere,that I found interesting.

When asked "what is kitesurfing like", the answer was.
"Its like wakeboarding, except you are driving the boat as well as concentrating on the wakeboarding,,,,,,,,oh,,and its not a boat,,,,but a helicopter and you are the pilot as well".

So really,you are correct,we are a passenger,
but you cant have a passenger,without a pilot.
Please note,I am still not saying that one sport is beter than the other.
I think I need to point that out before the haters start the personal attacks again.

I know you would hate to think this,but, both sports are about the same thing and are pretty much similar.
Both are harnessing the wind(being the pilot, as you like to think) and controlling how much power you want from it by sheeting in and out.

Really you can't have an opinion on which is better unless you've become proficient at both.

I'm proficient in one, but getting better at the other... and all i can say is that they're different.


Full respect to Boujmaa, I don't even have the bollocks to go for a little girly forward, let alone a psycho death-move like he's trying.

^^^^ big up's for doing both,,,you have the best of both worlds.

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lotofwind said...

Cool,ok,
So cant get vertical and rotate unless hitting a vertical ram,like a snow ski freestyle jump, that sends you up pretty much upsidedown as you hit it,,if you like it or not.Found that out in Canada

Oh yeha I have found that out windsurfing too

vertical ramp = vertical jump
flat out approach = higher
nose of board into wind = more vertical and more height (if it is really windy

all 3 done right (by mistake lol) = 40ft high involuntary backloop and really fast rotation !!

60ft?



looks like the BS is no longer BS

Mr Hairdresser


3 separate witnesses with different vantage points and a frame of reference (guy sailing next to me) called it as triple mast hi

So there


That excerpt from the Jason video is so funny though, they call it a BS estimate back then, but now it is oh so easily do-able for the pro's with our new light gear