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jh2703
jh2703
NSW
1225 posts
NSW, 1225 posts
23 Sep 2010 7:41pm
Just picked her up today...First time i've ever asked the wind Gods for light wind.



flipper4444
flipper4444
VIC
1214 posts
VIC, 1214 posts
23 Sep 2010 7:46pm
Looks like so much fun 8 knots to you now will feel like 20 knots and there meant to be real confortable to sail not like the crappy formular boards.. ya so lucky can i have a go??? Hey you should take it in the surf as well
elmo
elmo
WA
8890 posts
WA, 8890 posts
23 Sep 2010 5:59pm
Enjoy, they are a whole lotta fun
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23647 posts
WA, 23647 posts
23 Sep 2010 6:39pm
What is it?

izaak
izaak
TAS
2013 posts
TAS, 2013 posts
23 Sep 2010 8:51pm
they look like a decent light wind board....i would love one
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23647 posts
WA, 23647 posts
23 Sep 2010 6:56pm
Ahhh must be a SUP.
Way too wide to be a windsurf board, and no mast track that I can see

graceman
graceman
WA
323 posts
WA, 323 posts
23 Sep 2010 6:58pm
Bloody awesome boards, dining table on steroids.
Point really well, a little shake with the feet and she pops up on the plane.
Scary fast downwind
DrJ
DrJ
ACT
481 posts
DrJ DrJ
ACT, 481 posts
23 Sep 2010 9:10pm
Woooo hoooo collect mine tomorrow can't wait, going to keep it in the house for a few days, you know let it settle in a bit.
DrJ
DrJ
ACT
481 posts
DrJ DrJ
ACT, 481 posts
23 Sep 2010 9:33pm
Mark _australia said...

Ahhh must be a SUP.
Way too wide to be a windsurf board, and no mast track that I can see




Doesnt need a mast track it uses the new magic mast base, it auto detects mast base and using a hyperstatic electro magnetic field , holds the mast in place.
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23647 posts
WA, 23647 posts
23 Sep 2010 7:37pm
DrJ said...

Mark _australia said...

Ahhh must be a SUP.
Way too wide to be a windsurf board, and no mast track that I can see




Doesnt need a mast track it uses the new magic mast base, it auto detects mast base and using a hyperstatic electro magnetic field , holds the mast in place.


Sounds like a Neil Pryde idea that will be touted as revolutionary, only work with JP boards, suck all the euro's in, but fail dismally through breakages (particularly the X3 electromag base)
Kimba
Kimba
SA
459 posts
SA, 459 posts
23 Sep 2010 9:18pm
Noice! Mine gets here in a few days too.

I think it will need a whole rack in the trailer! There must be a few people gettin em...
sideskirt
sideskirt
328 posts
328 posts
23 Sep 2010 8:14pm
How it would work this out for beginners? I plan to buy a 140L board or more, next year for me for light wind and also for my gf to learn on it...? (she knows how to lift the sail, sail a bit and do a tack in light wind with a 5.0 sail)
DrJ
DrJ
ACT
481 posts
DrJ DrJ
ACT, 481 posts
23 Sep 2010 10:26pm
While they are "user friendly" I believe they are still quite technical, they are very short, so probably not ideal to tack etc. Certainly difficult to learn straps as they only have the one position and that is way outboard. So Probably not ideal, and you may be better of a more classical style.

Also it is probably quite fragile .... It is only available in pro- edition or super duper gold edition.
LeStef
LeStef
ACT
514 posts
ACT, 514 posts
23 Sep 2010 10:36pm
Are they expensive ? Had to sell the car ?
An amazing look !
sideskirt
sideskirt
328 posts
328 posts
23 Sep 2010 8:36pm
yeah, probably better to buy a Shark or sth... prolly that might work better for her even with smaller sail, while I use my Class X Thommen 105L
jh2703
jh2703
NSW
1225 posts
NSW, 1225 posts
23 Sep 2010 10:50pm
LeStef said...

Are they expensive ? Had to sell the car ?
An amazing look !


Are they expensive....compared to a Ferrari...NO.
Where's the car....It sleeps on the street tonight.

It looks better in the flesh and it's an interesting concept, I just hope it lives up to the hype. It'll get it's first run tomorrow...I'll get the GoPro out and get some of the action.
busterwa
busterwa
3782 posts
3782 posts
23 Sep 2010 10:29pm
When do you pick up the outboard motor for it?
Mark _australia
Mark _australia
WA
23647 posts
WA, 23647 posts
23 Sep 2010 10:35pm
Ok

y'all talking about the hype and everybody wants one so I'll ask the dumb questions (I haven't been on anything other than wave gear for a long while)

What is different? Is it a light wind planer that also gybes OK (unlike a formula) and goes downwind a bit better? So it is a formula board with softer rails and some tail rocker?

Looks like a Starboard Hypersonic from ages ago (was it 2003 they first came out?)

Not taking the p!ss, genuinely interested as to what is revolutionary and exciting about it
jh2703
jh2703
NSW
1225 posts
NSW, 1225 posts
24 Sep 2010 6:54am
Mark _australia said...



Not taking the p!ss, genuinely interested as to what is revolutionary and exciting about it


Everything that was old is now new again.

It's exciting for me, I don't live near waves and unless it's 15-20 knots I don't sail, we get a lot of 10-15 knot days on the lake where I live so at least I'll have a chance to get out and have a blast.
WindmanV
WindmanV
VIC
819 posts
VIC, 819 posts
24 Sep 2010 9:00am
JH and Kimba,

Can you advise the length of the fin you get with the board, please?

A fin length of 56cm was quoted during a video test at Rik's UK and he thought this might be a bit small, particularly with 7.5/8.5m sails.

Bet you can't wait to get them on the water!
DrJ
DrJ
ACT
481 posts
DrJ DrJ
ACT, 481 posts
24 Sep 2010 9:10am
Mark _australia said...

Ok

y'all talking about the hype and everybody wants one so I'll ask the dumb questions (I haven't been on anything other than wave gear for a long while)

What is different? Is it a light wind planer that also gybes OK (unlike a formula) and goes downwind a bit better? So it is a formula board with softer rails and some tail rocker?

Looks like a Starboard Hypersonic from ages ago (was it 2003 they first came out?)

Not taking the p!ss, genuinely interested as to what is revolutionary and exciting about it



I have high hope for this board, I think you have pretty much got it with your description. it has softer rails and more V than a formula board so it should be easier to turn. I think it is intended to be somewhere between a formula and slalom board.

For me its all about time on the water, with a three hour drive to the coast , and then only on holidays and weekends. lake BG in canberra is my only option for easy sailing, so I often experience very marginal conditions. The promises this board makes, push my buttons.
yes I could just get a formula, but i am not a great sailor and lack the technical abililities to go all out formula.

I hope that all those days I drive to the coast only to arrive in what cant be more than 10-12 knots will no longer be such a big disappointment.

I think you might be able to imagine why I want, and indeed from 3pm today will have one of these.
DrJ
DrJ
ACT
481 posts
DrJ DrJ
ACT, 481 posts
24 Sep 2010 9:11am
WindmanV said...

JH and Kimba,

Can you advise the length of the fin you get with the board, please?

A fin length of 56cm was quoted during a video test at Rik's UK and he thought this might be a bit small, particularly with 7.5/8.5m sails.

Bet you can't wait to get them on the water!


I did notice that in the UK it comes with 2 fins.
sboardcrazy
sboardcrazy
NSW
8333 posts
NSW, 8333 posts
24 Sep 2010 9:37am
jh2703 said...

Just picked her up today...First time i've ever asked the wind Gods for light wind.






Looks great but if its a sailboard where are the straps + mast track..?
nosinkanow
nosinkanow
NSW
441 posts
NSW, 441 posts
24 Sep 2010 10:17am
It looks like a very large boogie board!

Not taking the piss either, it's just an uncanny resemblance. Apart from shorter dimensions, volume and weight than say my Kona One and both offering lightwind performance, I wonder what the pros and cons would be assuming weather conditions and rig are the same?

Interesting concept compared to the 144/150 Isonics, according to what I've read the JP is a different animal. Good to have a back-to-back comparison between the 2 brands.

Just educating myself on modern gear.
Mickymoo
Mickymoo
WA
163 posts
WA, 163 posts
24 Sep 2010 8:39am
Looks like a Hypersonic 122? almost the same dimensions except no concaves which is what I liked about them ! Looks great hope you have loads of fun.....
DrJ
DrJ
ACT
481 posts
DrJ DrJ
ACT, 481 posts
24 Sep 2010 11:56am
nosinkanow said...

It looks like a very large boogie board!

Not taking the piss either, it's just an uncanny resemblance. Apart from shorter dimensions, volume and weight than say my Kona One and both offering lightwind performance, I wonder what the pros and cons would be assuming weather conditions and rig are the same?

Interesting concept compared to the 144/150 Isonics, according to what I've read the JP is a different animal. Good to have a back-to-back comparison between the 2 brands.

Just educating myself on modern gear.



As a former owner of a Kona One, and a big fan ... I am actually qualified to answer (first time ever)

Kona One ... big stable great to learn on, and race in class, planes very well but on the other hand very (I mean 'very') heavy in relation to the Super light..... Actually that is all I can say at this moment ... I will finsh this post tomorrow when I have actually sailed the super light, so lets say I am at this stage only partially qualified !
DrJ
DrJ
ACT
481 posts
DrJ DrJ
ACT, 481 posts
24 Sep 2010 11:57am
Mark _australia said...

theWaterBoy said...

So many questions - Here you are boys:

http://www.jp-australia.com/2011/index.php?id=197


I thought about that, but do the manufacturers always tell us the truth about a boards characteristics?


I hope so .... I really do, though I have checked out some 'more' independent info too, if i can find the links again I will post them later
elmo
elmo
WA
8890 posts
WA, 8890 posts
24 Sep 2010 10:03am
Mark _australia said...

theWaterBoy said...

So many questions - Here you are boys:

http://www.jp-australia.com/2011/index.php?id=197


I thought about that, but do the manufacturers always tell us the truth about a boards characteristics?


In this case having ridden one a few times already I think they are being a bit on the conservative side.

Very much point and shoot, awesome through the lulls and good over the bumps.

Going from memory it doesn't ride like a Hypersonic (which are interesting in their own right).

Only recommendation is to do some stretching excersizes before hand cause that opposite rail is a long way away when you go to gybe
Kimba
Kimba
SA
459 posts
SA, 459 posts
24 Sep 2010 1:53pm
Hi WindmanV,
I am pretty sure that it comes with a single JP Slalom III 56(although the range on the JP site only goes to 52). I have bought an S10 57 as recommended by Rik, I already like the smaller Selects so I hope this will be great for the SLW's usable range. Rik does think a 60+ fin will help for extreme days on the planing threshold.

What sails are people expecting to use them with? I'm using 9.5 & 7.8.

You Blokes are lucky to have them already and Elmo, its great to hear that you think they played down the Hype!
DrJ
DrJ
ACT
481 posts
DrJ DrJ
ACT, 481 posts
24 Sep 2010 4:16pm
Just got mine home.............. Pleased to see mine comes with a mast track ! I have included a photo for you mast track deniers.

Cant wait until tomorrow now.




jh2703
jh2703
NSW
1225 posts
NSW, 1225 posts
24 Sep 2010 5:08pm
How does it go...

Well I am impressed, had some very average wind today and had a blast....I'll need a 9.0 for days like this. Does it just pop onto the plain and stay there...No, you do need some technique to get it going. Once it is going it WILL stay there all day, screams upwind without trying and goes downwind without a fuss. It goes through the chop with ease and is comfortable to ride and gybes well. Everything seems quite balance and it's easy to get into the straps(once you work out where they are), no problem with the fin...I put every bit of weight I had through my back foot and the board actually likes this.
I'm just going to play with mast track positions to see if I can get the board to release a bit earlier...if there are any formula guys out there, where do you guys run your mast base...front, back, middle or anywhere?

Best speed for the day was 19.53 knots...there is heaps left in her.

....Get one.
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