Twin fins are soooo now

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Thrusters and Singles are all old school now.

I see Quads for 2010 !!!!!!!

what was this? The gathering of the fat boards & twinies cool club?

quad fins havent been out on the market but they have been experimented with, they found to be similar to twinsters but had way to many problems, becuase the angles had to be just right and cavitation was to much, couldnt get nice turns, etc so they gave up.

but thrusters are also getting back into the market, robby naish was the person who really got them populare, but then they died down, but now they are comming back again, and they are ment to have real advantages over twinsters, some points given in windsurf magazine why is "it combines the bes of both worlds" and "the center fin adds contol in the same way a single does but you get even better maneurability than cn be achived with twinsters" "the center fin alowd teh side fins to be placed further apart so they dont interfear with each other, so if one side fin looses grip in an especially hard turn, you only lose between 20-33% of the control (depending on the toTAL fin area)" and than the final dot points of the advantages are

• ealier planing
• improved up wind drive
• a shorter turning radius
• more waves and more turns on waves
• easier turns
• mre control over the top turn
• sailing in shalower water
• the board does not rail ride when extreemly over powers
• reduced fin out

sothats waht the"windsurf" magazine has to say about the advantages of the tri fin over the twin fin,

sory about spelling not very good at typing and reading at the same time

I've always wondered why windsurfers (especially DTL wavesailors)have stuck with 1 fin, when the whole surfing world has embraced the thruster since Simon Anderson won Bells back whenever it was. The thruster is obviously better for carving wave faces, so why has DTL wavesailing stuck with the single fin? Except of course for the old Bombora Tri-fin.

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Originally posted by easty

I've always wondered why windsurfers (especially DTL wavesailors)have stuck with 1 fin, when the whole surfing world has embraced the thruster since Simon Anderson won Bells back whenever it was. The thruster is obviously better for carving wave faces, so why has DTL wavesailing stuck with the single fin? Except of course for the old Bombora Tri-fin.

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Thats a very good question. Id like to know the answer to that too.
Anyone?

cheaper?

I think that article was very biased towards thrusters as the writer is the shaper of witchcraft boards who only makes thrusters and has a vested interest in promoting his production and custom thrusters.
The bit where we go along FAST in a straight lines with a sail stops us having surfboard type thrusters, on a wave good idea for us. but the sail interacting with the fins means different fin toe in angles and sizes.

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Originally posted by easty

I've always wondered why windsurfers (especially DTL wavesailors)have stuck with 1 fin, when the whole surfing world has embraced the thruster since Simon Anderson won Bells back whenever it was. The thruster is obviously better for carving wave faces, so why has DTL wavesailing stuck with the single fin? Except of course for the old Bombora Tri-fin.

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From what I can recall of articles over the years, it has to do with straight line speed. Because the thrusters are angled in, you cant go as fast. Of course this shouldn't matter on the wave as you usually want to slow down anyway.

Stone Surf and Delta have been doing thrusters for years, and seem to have a good rep.

This is back to the future. I remember surfing twin fins and then the thrusters came out and blew everyone away. But that was surfing. Sailboarding went through the tri fin phase early in short board history, example Bombora, but there were a heap of custom boards as well. My 1st shortboard was a tri waveboard, Pegasus made in Noosa. You'll still see these old boards occassionaly. I think Grumple is on the money with the speed, but I also think it is about maturity in sailboard design and that the sailboard industry is ready to revisit this now, at least in the wave space. IMHO.

multi fins are great for a constantly turning style, where one fin is coming out of the water on the turns, but not as good for going in a straight line.

I had a go at thrusterizing an old wave board many years ago, obviously I didn't get it anywhere near right, it was horrible in a straight line.

The toed in fins at a high angle of attack either produced high lift and lots of drag, or stalled and produced no lift and even more drag. they seemed to take turns doing this, so progress was a sort of out of control series of opposite direction sweeps. I gave the whole idea away and went back to singles. realizing the amount of R&D time, materials and brain strain probably wasn't worth it, for just me.

Lessening the toe in also reduces maneuverability, so three parallel fins are stiffer than 1 center fin, therein lies the problem.

But for people like Stony and Delta, who've got the competitive incentive, it's more worthwhile.

I'm still convinced a single fin will be faster and thus a better jumper, but if you're in a place like Gero, speed isn't an issue, and a thruster setup should give more exciting wave riding

Thought this post was about TWIN FINS how did it get to thrusters??????

Hey you're the soothsayer!!!!!!!

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Originally posted by soothsayer

Thought this post was about TWIN FINS how did it get to thrusters??????

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You're obviously new around here

It's the leap to Aardvarks which is the tricky one.

Farts can be done in one post

Got the Aardvark

How about a board with Twin Aardvarks

My Twinzers from HiFly are not canted or towed in ... probably why I don't notice loss of speed. Dunno bout the new kids' boards.

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Originally posted by elmo

It's the leap to Aardvarks which is the tricky one.

Farts can be done in one post

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I think Godwin's Law
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_Law can be extended to Aardvarks.

i have been staring at the new quatro twinster, it is really nice, im suprised at the sized fins, they are smaller than i wouild have thought, because quatro usally puts to big of fins on the boards just to be safe but probaly got something to do with volume of board, vs fin area

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Originally posted by snides8

cheaper?

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I've had a 2003 hifly madd 135 (which has two fins) for a few years now, and it's a pain having to have two good fins instead of just one good one. If you then want to change fin sizes, you need another set...

I have no idea about wave riding, but for flat-water sailing, the board seems to behave similar to a single fin board of the same size. The disadvantage that I have seen is that the fins are shorter and as a result when you hit a lot of chop, it can be easier for the fins to spin-out when you land.

All THIS TWIN FIN Talk came from the way (whats his name) came 2 second to Angoulo at the wave contest,,,, to beat all wave contests,,,, any real earthlings have every witnessed,,, Whats the place Cape vertical.(heaps of footage getting around).

Whats his name ripped it up with a Naish Boxer on a twin fin.
Suddenly twin fins are the talk.......

Well there no doubt he carved it ,but many of the pro sailor sailed to hit big long high arials,,, where as whats his name really SURFed sailed.

ThatS the difference in approach AND STYLE rather that than the equipment one thinks.

FREE FIN THUTHSTERS WHERE TO GET THEM.
WHAT THE DOODS NAME?

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Originally posted by decrepit

Hey you're the soothsayer!!!!!!!

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yeah my crystal ball fogged up bit of a clairevoyant glitch

I see........ too much houch has affected the Kings memory
His name is Kauli.
Looks like all the pros think it's equip related and not a style, else they wouldn't have got twin fins made up.
I also dont quite understand what point Jord70 is trying to make.
Time for a new BALL!

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Originally posted by FormulaNova

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Originally posted by snides8

cheaper?

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I've had a 2003 hifly madd 135 (which has two fins) for a few years now, and it's a pain having to have two good fins instead of just one good one. If you then want to change fin sizes, you need another set...

I have no idea about wave riding, but for flat-water sailing, the board seems to behave similar to a single fin board of the same size. The disadvantage that I have seen is that the fins are shorter and as a result when you hit a lot of chop, it can be easier for the fins to spin-out when you land.

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Wow, can't get mine to spin sailin in Gorge stuff.... I am sailing the 76,90,& 100ltr. It is a pain to buy 2 fins when you want to change things out, also they require a bit of tweaking your planing technique - they don't work until you get them sliding a bit. Advantage I have seen is unbelievable control due to lack of "railing", & super controlled turns in the bumpy stuff. Can't comment much on waves since I don't sail *real* waves just Gorge stuff.

Can you look into your crystal ball and tell me if i will have more style riding a twinzzzzzaaaaa
I am worried i my have to drive off my big toe more,its currently a bit sore. .

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Originally posted by king of the point

Can you look into your crystal ball and tell me if i will have more style riding a twinzzzzzaaaaa
I am worried i my have to drive off my big toe more,its currently a bit sore. .

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No a twinney will not give you any more style.
I see you already have heaps of wave riding style!
All praise Kingy the spot X legend.
I also see that when you spray a kiter in your way in early December the tail of your board will accidentally slide out and take him out causing a small chip to the rail of your board, so take some ding stick with you.

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Originally posted by soothsayer


I also dont quite understand what point Jord70 is trying to make.
Time for a new BALL!

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Well if you find a ball that works on Jordo's posts, could you share it with the rest of us?????

wich one of my posts, if its the one about looking at thenew quatro twinster, im implying it is very nice in the graphics and the board its self, and that i need to get a second and third job so i can get one this year,

and than the bit out fin size i am saying that the fins wich come with the board, are very small only 7.25" or somwhere around that mark, and it is suprising becuase quatro is ushally putting bigger fins with they're boards, rather than samller ones,

Jordo!!!
you're not old enough to be p1ssed (you'd have to be to write like that!)

that's how I normally write on a Friday night

It's a shocker when you come home tired from a sail, sink a few cold ones, then find out people for dinner, drink more & yawn a lot

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Originally posted by jord070

are very small only 7.25" or somwhere around that mark,

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Hell smaller like 6" / 15cm

Jordo check out witchcraft thruster review in gear reviews section