You know the ones, you get to the other side of the channel, bay etc and you hit a big lull, right where you need to turn around. And of course a big lull/no wind zone is where you really don't want to fall in.

What is the technique? If you still have plenty of momentum the wind is now coming straight at you all the way through the turn. How do you flip the rig?

If you drop off the plane: Flare gybe, sail out clew first, flip when you're stable.

If you're still planing, then the entry is similar to a normal planing gybe, but you drop off the plane halfway through. Sail out clew first, flip when stable.

jump off, turn board around, uphaul

Yep - sail out clew first - flip the rig when you hit the wind zone again

I think I know what panda's getting at. If you're planing around a gybe at 20 knots and the wind has dropped to 10 knots then you get completely backwinded at rig flip time. I hate that!

just tack instead.

come out of the gybe clew first and don't flip the rig until you're back in the wind like others have said.

question is why gybe in the lulls.?

i always try to gybe in the gusts.

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Gestalt said...
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question is why gybe in the lulls.?
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Wind shadow on the beach? Yes, Kurnell, I'm looking at YOU.

... or heading towards an oyster farm at 32 knots.

Sometimes you just gotta gybe.

... Maybe there's an airport in your way.

^ or you could gybe before you get to the wind shadow.

or try a vulcan.

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swoosh said...

just tack instead.

Yes you can tack without stepping around the front if you like. Exit sailing on the lee side. When you hit the wind line again you helitack the rig.

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Gestalt said...

^ or you could gybe before you get to the wind shadow.

or try a vulcan.

Or a Spock 540...hmmm lets see, 540 -360 = 180. Yes a Spock 540 will do it. :)

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shear tip said...

... Maybe there's an airport in your way.

That's a lotta turnin' around

Ya such a show-off, Mike the Gybe-Master [}:)]

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Wineman said...
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That's a lotta turnin' around
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That's a lotta practice Pete

(Yup. Slow night at home tonight )

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Wineman said...
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That's a lotta turnin' around
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That's a lotta practice Pete

(Yup. Slow night at home tonight )

If its that slow tonight mike, you can always add Kurnel and S'ham.

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nebbian said...

If you drop off the plane: Flare gybe, sail out clew first, flip when you're stable.

If you're still planing, then the entry is similar to a normal planing gybe, but you drop off the plane halfway through. Sail out clew first, flip when stable.

this a sink gybe Nebs

Funny, from the GPS, I still don't see why you need to gybe so close to dead wind?? What was the wind direction that day at the Airport strip ?
Just curious mate.

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Wineman said...
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That's a lotta turnin' around
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That's a lotta practice Pete

(Yup. Slow night at home tonight )

Look at that last bit down the bottom- either the wind was really shifty there, or you can sail bl00dy close to the wind .... or have a light blue crayon and scanner

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Wineman said...
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That's a lotta turnin' around
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That's a lotta practice Pete

(Yup. Slow night at home tonight )



that's more coloring done on one page than my little daughternice though

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this a sink gybe Nebs

Here's more what I was talking about (drop off the plane halfway through, exit clew first):

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swoosh said...

just tack instead.

Yes you can tack without stepping around the front if you like. Exit sailing on the lee side. When you hit the wind line again you helitack the rig.

what wrong with stepping around the front?

aerial duck gype perhaps?

i know i'm gonna get binned for saying this but..... i reckon that guy has sailed for about 6 months in that vid,

that is not good technique

can we bin that vid nebs

p.s. panda should be doing a step gybe to deal with no wind.

wave guys might do a flare or scissor gybe.

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jp747 said...



this a sink gybe Nebs

Here's more what I was talking about (drop off the plane halfway through, exit clew first):

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pierrec45 said...

Funny, from the GPS, I still don't see why you need to gybe so close to dead wind?? What was the wind direction that day at the Airport strip ?
Just curious mate.

Don't read too much into it, Pierre, I'm just stuffing around. My wife and her sister were discussing cocktail dresses last night. I can only take so much...

The speed strip runs, however, do have a dead wind issue. It's a short run and you want to milk the gust for everything it's got. Sometines the last bit of the run is purely on apparent wind and trying to gybe at the end results in a serious backwind. Tacking is not much of an option next to a speed bank, and I cant tack anyway!

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Sometimes the last bit of the run is purely on apparent wind and trying to gybe at the end results in a serious backwind. Tacking is not much of an option next to a speed bank, and I cant tack anyway!

^ This. (although I can tack again lately, yay).

For example: shifty wind at The Grand where there is a big wind shadow from the wall of 20-storey buildings along the shoreline. A wind shift and all-of-a-sudden you have nothing but apparent wind.

It seems easy enough to now carve through the turn but when it comes time to flip the rig if you are still moving you only get backwinded.

Are we just saying I need to come to a stop before flipping, while perhaps trying to keep some momentum by staying clew first?

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jump off, turn board around, uphaul

This is usually what happens.

i reckon that guy has sailed for about 6 months in that vid,

that is not good technique
How come..it looks like one of my better gybes in crap wind..
Last time I tried to gybe out in choppy water in a lull I found that because I was wobbly balance wise my footpressure was changing from side to side & Id start to turn & then straight & then turn..got stuck in a straight line..no fun, especially because there was still enough wind to make the sail a bit of a handful I was Ok when it blew or gybing in flat h2o in a lull.

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NotWal said...

swoosh said...

just tack instead.

Yes you can tack without stepping around the front if you like. Exit sailing on the lee side. When you hit the wind line again you helitack the rig.

what wrong with stepping around the front?

Nothing wrong with it if you can do it :). The same applies to the helitack rig flip of course.