Hi,

Have got a deal on buying either the Goya or Severne. But cannot make a choice! Any reviews out there?

both are the 2022 models.

I have a Goya One already, not sailed a Severne.
The Goya I can get a used one saving ?500 so very tempted to buy it.
have read the posts about decks being damaged by the mast hitting it.
look forward to the reviews if any!
cheers


rob

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merlincat said..
Hi,

Have got a deal on buying either the Goya or Severne. But cannot make a choice! Any reviews out there?

both are the 2022 models.

I have a Goya One already, not sailed a Severne.
The Goya I can get a used one saving ?500 so very tempted to buy it.
have read the posts about decks being damaged by the mast hitting it.
look forward to the reviews if any!
cheers


rob

Check out the following comparative review.

www.windsurf.co.uk/test-type/115-litre-b19/

I owned the Bolt. It was an incredibly fast board but absolutely not fit for purpose. You couldn't sail it without it getting damaged. I know of no other sports equipment that gets damaged through normal use. I sold it.

Thanks for sharing the link. will have a read

rob

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dohertpk said..
I owned the Bolt. It was an incredibly fast board but absolutely not fit for purpose. You couldn't sail it without it getting damaged. I know of no other sports equipment that gets damaged through normal use. I sold it.

Too fragile?

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dohertpk said..
I owned the Bolt. It was an incredibly fast board but absolutely not fit for purpose. You couldn't sail it without it getting damaged.

Can you elaborate on what you mean by "sail it without it getting damaged". Do you mean it got dinged from mast impact?

Hi

thanks for the comments, could do with more information on "damage"non the Goya. the Goya I have now is pretty solid to be honest. I have heard about the mast dings, but you get these on all boards.
any one got a Fox 120 ?
cheers

rob

Never had this problem with any Goya Bolt I had, of course when you are catapulted you need to take care not to crash into the board, which can potentially damage any board. I had a few stacks on mine but I found the carbon deck construction very strong.

Bolt is excellent! You can push it to the limits, but still stay comfortably in control even in choppy conditions. I've owned 125 ltr 2017 and 2021 models and sailed over 7000 kilometers with them. Despite of heavy beating they've been getting I've never had anything else than cosmetic dings. Highly recommended!

Never sailed Fox, but my impression is that it's more freeride with more upright stance compared to Bolt.

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merlincat said..
Hi,

Have got a deal on buying either the Goya or Severne. But cannot make a choice! Any reviews out there?

both are the 2022 models.

I have a Goya One already, not sailed a Severne.
The Goya I can get a used one saving ?500 so very tempted to buy it.
have read the posts about decks being damaged by the mast hitting it.
look forward to the reviews if any!
cheers


rob

Ive used the 2022 fox 105, 120, and 2022 bolts from 107 to 127.

The boards are slightly different shapes which leads to different riding styles. The fox is narrow and longer whereas the bolt is shorter and wider. This leads the fox to feel reluctant to get planing and requires a fair amount of speed and pressure on the front of the board to gybe well but It had a good top end speed. The bolt is slightly more forgiving in the gybes, I found It had a slightly lower top end speed but I would find myself choosing it over the fox when I had the option.

I found the fox foot straps a bit odd, with very pronounced deck pads which I found a bit uncomfortable. I found even after adjusting the straps in all sorts of different holes, my feet would still twist while in the straps. Over 4 months of centre use I cant remember seeing any of them getting damaged.

The bolt overall felt a bit more user friendly but I had a couple of nasty catapults where after a momentary lapse in concentration the rails 'caught' and threw me off pretty hard. We used surf bents on the bolts so no issues with the deck breaking from mast impacts. If you are interested in foiling the bolt is a better shape for it. But without a surfbent, i wouldn't be surprised if you could put some dents into the nose catapulting. We didn't have any issues with the bolts breaking but they were only let out if they had a surf bent on.

The problem with my 2019 Goya Bolt 135 was the mast dented the deck on the concave deck ridge that runs around the deck, just from normal use, the solution was to add a 3/4" spacer to the mast base so the mast hit the deck on a flatter section, but I also added deck padding. See my review of the board for details.

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Sandman1221 said..
The problem with my 2019 Goya Bolt 135 was the mast dented the deck on the concave deck ridge that runs around the deck, just from normal use....

I wouldn't call that "normal use" (!) for a dedicated slalom board.

Using the board to lift the sail while up-hauling, and sitting on one side of the board to rest with the sail in the water on the other side etc. This is all beginners stuff and for that there are dedicated beginner boards with EVA padding all over the deck.

I'm not a fan of concave decks on freeride/freerace boards for the damage it can cause, discussed at length on this forum. If you use a board for foiling, like Sandmann1221 and do a lot of uphauling, then the chance of causing damage is higher.
I bought a AV Nuvolari 2 months ago and it has a slightly concave deck, 5mm lower than the rails, not too extreme. Most freerace boards have concave decks these days.
Unfortunately, with my 7.5m sail, the collar on the extension is what hits the deck. I havent kitted out the deck in EVA foam, that would be daft, instead I use a small piece of fitness mat foam the size of my hand wrapped around the mast extension where it touches the deck. Ezzy mastpads are quite thick, but it seems a good idea to add a little protection just in case.
I dont use the board for foiling, I have a foilboard for that as they are much better for the job of foiling.

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SurferKris said..

Sandman1221 said..
The problem with my 2019 Goya Bolt 135 was the mast dented the deck on the concave deck ridge that runs around the deck, just from normal use....

I wouldn't call that "normal use" (!) for a dedicated slalom board.

Using the board to lift the sail while up-hauling, and sitting on one side of the board to rest with the sail in the water on the other side etc. This is all beginners stuff and for that there are dedicated beginner boards with EVA padding all over the deck.

If you are just pushing or dragging your kit into deeper water with 2-3' waves, the board will rock against the mast, and the sail/mast will be pushed up into the board deck, with every passing wave so that the mast will hit the concave deck ridge denting it. That rates as normal use IMO.

More recently, have seen other boards with a recessed deck in which the recess is a lot smaller in diameter so the ridge is closer to the mast track, as a result the ridge can not be hit by the mast. That is all Goya would have to do to prevent the problem with the Bolt IMO.

But the Bolt is a great foiling board! Was at a shop recently and saw a Exocet RF Foil 80 board, it was huge in comparison making a hassle to move around into/out of the water IMO, and was a lot heavier than the Bolt. Also, I think a narrow tailed slalom board is better for pumping the foil because the tail allows you to push it below the water to increase the pumping range during the initial stages. Can not see the Exocet 80 being pumped like that, the wide tail would get blocked by the water.

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Isonic117 said..
This leads the fox to feel reluctant to get planing and requires a fair amount of speed and pressure on the front of the board to gybe well but It had a good top end speed.

I think the reason for this is the extreme vee in the hull. It must produce a fair amount of drag.

Hi

I have a Fox 95 and just can tell is one of the more comfortable boards i ever had.
I normally sail Isonics with Overdrive sails but when it gets very windy with hard chop i change from the Isonic 95 to the Fox 95 and have a blast.
I sail it with the OD 6.2 and 5.1 from 25 to 40 knots
Best gybing board ever

Cheers

Hi

Thanks for all your messages.
I have opted for the Fox 120. It seems to have had the better reviews for the conditions I sail in. so the Severne Fox is the first board from this brand.
will keep you updated on how I get on with it.
cheers,

rob