Hi.

My wife has been sailing a 2008 model 86l tabou 3s, she loves this board and previously had the 95l, but it's starting to get old. We traveled in 2015-17 and tried a number of other brands and the 3s was still always her favourite. Her board is the Ltd edition model, so it iis nice and light, found some boards she tried a fair bit heavier. From memory she got to try various models of rrds, jp, naish and my custom 90l. Probably a few others I forgot.

So any opinions on what would be a good replacement. She likes the smooth nature of the 3s, only negative is it is a little slow to get planning, but she only weights 55 to 60kg.

Recently seen a severne dyno, 2022 model for a good price. The sales pitch sounds good. Limited options here in nz now as well.

Cheers

That's an impressive long life for the board!

Do you remember if she tried the JP Freestyle Wave in the same volume? I think it's a fairly similar board although shapes have evolved obviously over time so it will always feel different and need a bit of time to get used to. These are great boards and the Pro edition is light and strong. I'm slightly heavier but find these early planing (it's my high wind board though). Single fin is for fast blasting with loads of control and thruster setup completely changes the board into a super smooth bump and jump, confused seas jibing machine that isn't shy of a wave either.

Dyno is a similar FSW board, never sailed it but might be slightly more focused towards waves?

That's a great board for sure! My favorite is still a 2007 dacurve.
Today's boards might be a bit wider, check for that.
Some nice contenders:
Tabou 3S (classic)
JP FSW (go for pro model)
Goya One
Starboard Kode FSW (watch for size, can be oversized)

Check construction and weight, some models are available in two constructions.

The Dyno has same rocker as the 2015-17 ish 3S with bit more vee so I bet she'd like it....... but I am curious about how she thinks a 3S is a bit slow to plane... that age 3S she has would be amongst the quickest FSW boards to get up and going.

Trouble is newer FSW are more wavey.

But trouble number 2 is freeride for decent wind and a 55kg person don't exist so I know its hard

Be careful with Kode, over a few years of models its a FSW, then next year twinser wave, then halfway between, then a few years later small ones wave and big ones FSW..... its a minefield navigating what Kode is what when looking secondhand.

Sounds like she needs a custom

I'm not super experienced/great, and have both an older 102 JP FSW (I think 2006ish?) and a newer 115 Dyno.

At my skill level I've found the Dyno to be easier to sail. Usually in more flat/B&J conditions the difference isn't huge with a single fin setup. Thrusters on the Dyno really loosen it up for waves but I don't get many wave days here. When I do I really like the Dyno.

My only real complaint is I damaged the board a bit. Their red construction are a bit fragile for near beginners that grabbed it (like I did), and they have a tougher white construction now but it may be harder to get ahold of.

Also have a much larger Kode (135) that sails very similarly to the Dyno. Haven't had that long enough to say much other than I like it for our marginal light stuff. Can't compare to Tabou or other brands.

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Mark _australia said..
The Dyno has same rocker as the 2015-17 ish 3S with bit more vee so I bet she'd like it....... but I am curious about how she thinks a 3S is a bit slow to plane... that age 3S she has would be amongst the quickest FSW boards to get up and going.

Trouble is newer FSW are more wavey.

But trouble number 2 is freeride for decent wind and a 55kg person don't exist so I know its hard

Be careful with Kode, over a few years of models its a FSW, then next year twinser wave, then halfway between, then a few years later small ones wave and big ones FSW..... its a minefield navigating what Kode is what when looking secondhand.

Sounds like she needs a custom

The feeling it is slow to plane is prehaps a reflection of her pushing how light she tries to sail it in (now wing foiling when light wind anyway).

That and I have only really used it after sailing my custom freestyle thingy board (it's unique) which makes anything seem slow to plane and my opion has been passed onto her.

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ptsf1111 said..
That's an impressive long life for the board!

Do you remember if she tried the JP Freestyle Wave in the same volume? I think it's a fairly similar board although shapes have evolved obviously over time so it will always feel different and need a bit of time to get used to. These are great boards and the Pro edition is light and strong. I'm slightly heavier but find these early planing (it's my high wind board though). Single fin is for fast blasting with loads of control and thruster setup completely changes the board into a super smooth bump and jump, confused seas jibing machine that isn't shy of a wave either.

Dyno is a similar FSW board, never sailed it but might be slightly more focused towards waves?

She would have used a jp fsw from around 2016 ish and didn't rave about it. Nothing wrong with them, just nothing exciting.

The construction of the board has been impressive. Only now is the bottom seeming susceptible to easy little punctures on the beach, core is still good though. Considering it spent the best part of 3 months on a beach in Jeri and then nz sun it must be well made. That and the pads are now disintegrating.

I would change the pads, straps, paint touch-up and regrip.
Oh wait that's what I'm doing with my 3S

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Manuel7 said..
I would change the pads, straps, paint touch-up and regrip.
Oh wait that's what I'm doing with my 3S

That might be the plan yet. What pads are you going with?

I wouldn't recommend Dyno 85, mainly because footstrap width is too wide(16,5cm), other reason is tail is too wide for lightweights in my opinion.

Does your wife use single rear footstrap or double?

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Qtwind said..

Manuel7 said..
I would change the pads, straps, paint touch-up and regrip.
Oh wait that's what I'm doing with my 3S

That might be the plan yet. What pads are you going with?

I would definitely go with the square ones not the long diamond. Used north shore pads in the past and will salvage some from an old board and left over material this time. Only the white part is worn, the black pads are still excellent.

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Sea Lotus said..
I wouldn't recommend Dyno 85, mainly because footstrap width is too wide(16,5cm), other reason is tail is too wide for lightweights in my opinion.

Does your wife use single rear footstrap or double?

Single. More of a freewave preference than free ride, if that makes sense. The lake here gets good size wind swell, will never be down the line but fine for a playful riding.

My old Goya freeride is set as a single strap too, it's 105L and is so fun!

On a side note my Tabou 2007 has white pads and they are still perfectly fine... 10 years older, hundreds of sessions more. It's insane how materials have degraded.

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Qtwind said..
Single. More of a freewave preference than free ride, if that makes sense. The lake here gets good size wind swell, will never be down the line but fine for a playful riding.

Maybe she can keep an eye on Patrik f-wave, i had been using its 75lt in similar conditions, i am happy with it, but i had to change fins, original fins felt too stiff, (k4 scorcher + 2'ezzys is nice), so keep that in mind if you find one to try.

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Mark _australia said..
The Dyno has same rocker as the 2015-17 ish 3S with bit more vee so I bet she'd like it....... but I am curious about how she thinks a 3S is a bit slow to plane... that age 3S she has would be amongst the quickest FSW boards to get up and going.

Trouble is newer FSW are more wavey.

But trouble number 2 is freeride for decent wind and a 55kg person don't exist so I know its hard

Be careful with Kode, over a few years of models its a FSW, then next year twinser wave, then halfway between, then a few years later small ones wave and big ones FSW..... its a minefield navigating what Kode is what when looking secondhand.

Sounds like she needs a custom

Still not picked a board! Seen a 2021 85l kode, Any opinions on that model. The different fin configurations sounds nice if it works.
I have read some mixed opikns on the quality of 2021 and 2022 boards which is a worry.

Get Mark to make her a custom.

Has the board been used? If so then it would show immediat problems. That said it may feel a bit bigger than what she's used to. Check for that. Otherwise huge productivity on the kode.

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Manuel7 said..
Has the board been used? If so then it would show immediat problems. That said it may feel a bit bigger than what she's used to. Check for that. Otherwise huge productivity on the kode.

Lightly used. No marks in the pictures.
Regarding custom, $1500 vs $3k+ might be a deal breaker....

You gotta check for soft spots, weight, strap inserts, etc.
Even owners may not realize there are issues.

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Sea Lotus said..
I wouldn't recommend Dyno 85, mainly because footstrap width is too wide(16,5cm), other reason is tail is too wide for lightweights in my opinion.

Lotus. Interesting. I second that but have another stab at it due to something I came across a week ago which is sort of strange considering I'm pretty handy, relatively advanced, and sort of know my equipment.

So I got an old new board from a friend, 2008 Naish Freestyle 115L to use in super light wind. That same Naish board but in 100L I sailed for about 4 years half a decade ago so I kind of know the board inside out... I do have Severne Dyno II 85 with original Severne footsraps that do set a bit wide for my liking. I even tried screwing one side of front straps into closer holes but that changed the angle a bit which I didn't like...

So I thought that I replace worn Naish back strap with Severne (I have one spare). No brainer, right. Installed it on Naish twisting screw plastic holders to the narrowest on Severne strap to find that the strap sets a bit wide (I want it more mushroom). At this point I was totally baffled, crazy.... I thought that Severne Dyno footsrap holes are a bit farther apart which makes Severne straps set a bit wider.. but old Naish.....?
So to prove that I'm not on drugs, I took the new JP footstrap and installed it in place of Severne and few mins later actually had to flip one screw holder to the wider side because the footstrap was too narrow. At this point I was totally clueless..
I didn't have time to install JP footstrap on Dyno but I wonder if it's not Severne Dyno footstrap board holes distance but some Severne footstrap design problem/feature. I mean Severne and JPs footstraps look almost identical. Plastic holders too. But somehow they did set differently...

That's the distance I was talking about..

Yes straps have different widths. They also have different "curves" and different softness. Some have their material thinner, narrower, less reinforced, etc.

You can play with washers, use offset ones, long ones parallel to the holes as opposed to across or a combination of all!

Usually the rear strap holes are narrower than the front ones.

Yes straps have different widths. They also have different "curves" and different softness. Some have their material thinner, narrower, less reinforced, etc.

You can play with washers, use offset ones, long ones parallel to the holes as opposed to across or a combination of all!

Usually the rear strap holes are narrower than the front ones.