New here. Hello.

I just saw the YouTube video of the starboard black box 107 being intro'd.
Can somebody explain to me (I'm 75kg and will be new to small/any wave surfing) what advantages the 107 will offer to me over the 87?

Regards
Rossco

The Blackbox is so specialised that if you have to ask, you probably don't want one. It is basically a board for the person who already has 3 - 10 wave boards and still has a few days a year they would like to maximise.

It is really not for somebody new to waves, the looseness will be crazy.

The reason I'm asking is where I live. It's an island that has a 3km long beach with reef break about 200mtrs from shore. The waves are always small/choppy as they pass over the reef, the wind blows cross-on- shore for 6 months of the year, its not like in Australia, it just looks ideal for a windsurfer small wave board.

From the shore to the reef is just perfect in waist deep water and there are hundreds of kite surfers and windsurfers lapping up the flatter conditions.

Anyway. Could you at least give some feedback about the length increase of the 107 over the 87?

Regards
Rossco

1 post and you ask a question about a none released / unannounced board?Let's just assume for a second this isn't just a clumsy attempt by some marketer to stir interest in the board. My recommendation send an email to Starboard. I am sure they will be able to provide you with more info.

bugger all people have ridden one of these in OZ so i think you will struggle to get any good feedback here.

Its such a specialised board that most riders have gone for a large wave board 90 - 110 litres to cover light wind / small waves.

FWIW some excellent feedback coming through on the Nuevo 92, 101 and 110. The super wide twin fin set up makes these very loose and lively in small / medium waves

I rode the 87L in flat-choppy onshore conditions.

You could feel that the board was just hunting for a bare away, but non where to be had.

I wouldn't buy one for just cruising but if your getting bare aways in any direction, go nuts.

It planned easy and the top end was pretty slow.

would be a good start for a wave sailer if you can afford it

well... on the topic of light wind wave boards. if you are ultra big and need a board for ultra light wind look at the ultra fun Goya Quad 118. I didn't think a wave board that big could be that much fun. If you want to go out sailing while your mates sit on the beach get one of these. Probably a bit big if you are 75 kgs though.

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Reflex Films said..
Its such a specialised board that most riders have gone for a large wave board 90 - 110 litres to cover light wind / small waves.

Is that large?

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stehsegler said..

1 post and you ask a question about a none released / unannounced board?

just saw two at the local dealer + 1 on the water. they are released alright

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cyberonyx said..

The reason I'm asking is where I live. It's an island that has a 3km long beach with reef break about 200mtrs from shore. The waves are always small/choppy as they pass over the reef, the wind blows cross-on- shore for 6 months of the year, its not like in Australia, it just looks ideal for a windsurfer small wave board.

From the shore to the reef is just perfect in waist deep water and there are hundreds of kite surfers and windsurfers lapping up the flatter conditions.

Anyway. Could you at least give some feedback about the length increase of the 107 over the 87?

Regards
Rossco

Can you tell me where you live as it sounds like a paradise?

saw a couple on the beach here in geraldton during the last few weeks. haven't seen anyone actually riding one yet

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JBFletch said...
I rode the 87L in flat-choppy onshore conditions.

You could feel that the board was just hunting for a bare away, but non where to be had.

I wouldn't buy one for just cruising but if your getting bare aways in any direction, go nuts.

It planned easy and the top end was pretty slow.

would be a good start for a wave sailer if you can afford it

Thanks for the feedback.
I'm sincere, just starting out though. the small reef break here seems similar to the waves in some vids promoting the black box. As I said I'm 75kg so I guess the 107 will be for the heavier ilk" ...that's was my question?

So if its 15 knot winds cross on shore, could somebody recommend a sail to match with the 87 black box? Perhaps the firefly in 5mtr size?

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stehsegler said..

well... on the topic of light wind wave boards. if you are ultra big and need a board for ultra light wind look at the ultra fun Goya Quad 118. I didn't think a wave board that big could be that much fun. If you want to go out sailing while your mates sit on the beach get one of these. Probably a bit big if you are 75 kgs though.

I think this board is both a big person's wave board and a regular person's sailable SUP replacement. I'm 83 kg and I got the 118 so I could slog and ride in conditions when kites start falling out the sky. Sailed it about 6 times, mostly with a 6.0 and though it is not early planing, once on a wave it is incredible, turns as well as the last single fin I owned (2007 Evo 90). I also sailed it a couple of times well powered with a 5.2 and it planes about the same as the Quattro LS 90 in those conditions. Even well powered with a 5.2 I didn't feel I had to change down to the LS 90 L, though the LS 90 L was clearly better once I did.

For slog and ride in decent waves in ultra light winds it fits the niche perfectly for me. For blokes in the >100 kg category I think it will be a real game changer.

Well the 107L looks sick..
At 90kg I found the 87L to be ok..but the new 107 will suit me more in the 15 to 20knt days
Can't wait to get it in the water....

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Mark _australia said..
The Blackbox is so specialised that if you have to ask, you probably don't want one. It is basically a board for the person who already has 3 - 10 wave boards and still has a few days a year they would like to maximise.

It is really not for somebody new to waves, the looseness will be crazy.

Hmmm…that sounds exactly like me! I have 6 boards and have the 87L BB and it is truely amazing for onshore wave riding but average to rubbish at bump'n'jump so not versatile. But - get it in the right conditions - x-onshore mush - it does some very special turns. It makes onshore riding feel more sideshore with less effort! The BB is a radical board for **** conditions so is either a quiver board or your go-to board depending where you wavesail.

Here is my review: http://www.surfadviser.com/product/Boards,88/Starboard/Black-Box-(Carbon),3757&tab=comm

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cyberonyx said..
New here. Hello.

I just saw the YouTube video of the starboard black box 107 being intro'd.
Can somebody explain to me (I'm 75kg and will be new to small/any wave surfing) what advantages the 107 will offer to me over the 87?

Regards
Rossco

Hi cyberonyx,I weigh 84 kg and i had the opportunity to demo a BB 87l in crappy Qld gusty cross on conditions(stormy 25knts to 10knts).I found the board to have good ability at planning(better than my 94l quad) and holding bottom turn speed with an unbelievable "thrashy loose" top turn. The nose does feel quite short whilst riding and with the fins so far forward your jumping technique would require adjustment. I personally enjoyed it as it feels edgy and responsive, but at 84kgs I felt at the time a larger version would be a great light wind board(10-16knts). I have not ridden the 107 but imagine it to have the same feel ,and I am sure Starboard wave sailor Shane Finnigan(on seabreeze) uses it for his go to board in marginal conditions and might have some go pro footage of its ability if you asked him.

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cyberonyx said..
New here. Hello.

I just saw the YouTube video of the starboard black box 107 being intro'd.
Can somebody explain to me (I'm 75kg and will be new to small/any wave surfing) what advantages the 107 will offer to me over the 87?

Regards
Rossco

Where do you sail and what are the wind/wave conditions like? If you are new to wavesailing the Black Box will be an interesting board to start out with as it is sooo different from anything else out there (with the exceptions of the Simmer Frugal Fish). If you are new to wavesailing then this could be an advantage or not as the BB requires a particular technique to sail and is not 'plug'n'play' like other wave boards out there as the BB is a specialized light-medium wind mushy wave riding board. The BB is rubbish at doing anything else but amazing at front side riding clew first in mushy waves - which is actually quite a technical move to master. So front side wave riding needs to be your priority for this board. If you want a versatile board for high wind blasting or bump'n'jump as well as wave riding then the BB is not for you and might be better off looking at a more all round wave board in a quad or tri fin set up?