Has anyone used a starboard race foil on a levitator 150? I currently use a slingshot hoverglide with the 76 and 99 wing but have an IQ setup ordered for spring. I foil mainly in gusty lake conditions 7-15 knots. Higher winds only with storms around but always super gusty and shifty. That is part of the reason I got the race setup and cambered sails. Mainly for the efficiency in the lulls. I'm 6'2 and 90kg and currently use ezzy hydra 5 and 7m sails which I like quite a lot. I also have the HGO 9.0 and and hyperglide 4 7m to use upto 20knts.
The reason I ask this question is that in higher winds I expect the IQ board to be a bit of a handfull and wonder if the levitator can be substituted for a high wind slalom type board that every company seems to be making these days. Similar volume, length and width as far as I can tell. Obviously I would need a tuttle adapter for starboard mast but looks doable.
thoughts?

Isn't the IQ foil a tuttle box? Or does it have a pedastal option

No reason not to. I'd much sure the adapter and hardware you use is VERY sturdy though.

IQ is a tuttle box. Starboard sells an adaptor so one can use the double track system.

Starboard race foil on a Levitator 150. Be prepared to find that the front wing is too far forward compared to the i76. If you can mount it fully aft in the dual tracks, and run footstraps and/or sail mast track fully forward, it might balance.

Yeah with the 115+ I think the levitator will feel goofy.

I've had the 9.0 IQ out in gusts over 20 and it's a handful unless it's not choppy. But below 20 it's doable. 7.0 in 20 and below should feel good. Much more worried about the combined water state/gust situation. Need to be able to hike out and depower in the gusts without foiling out.

Grabbing the 105+ fuse may be an easier way to deal with it.

Also: using lower clew, dropping the boom, moving the mast base forward.

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segler said..
Starboard race foil on a Levitator 150. Be prepared to find that the front wing is too far forward compared to the i76. If you can mount it fully aft in the dual tracks, and run footstraps and/or sail mast track fully forward, it might balance.

fwiw, I run the 115+/0 shim at just 105-6cm from the front tuttle screw. The Florida IQFoil wizes run their mast bases back, too. Having the stab at a shallower angle (one of the goals of the plus type fuse) doesn't necessarily mean the "balance" point is out of whack.

I suppose that will be the key........putting the wing in roughly the same position under foot as on a race board. When I added the i76 wing last summer it was like learning to foil all over after being so used to the 99. I suppose I will just have to take my lumps and try it out. I will also have the 95 plus fuselage to play with. I may also add a 725 wing. I've seen a lot of useful talk on these smaller wings on the race setup on this page. Thanks to all of you crash test mannequins who test fly all of these combinations so the rest of us can learn from you. Still a few weeks from having open water her in Canada. I'll update once I give it a go. Cheers

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I suppose that will be the key........putting the wing in roughly the same position under foot as on a race board. When I added the i76 wing last summer it was like learning to foil all over after being so used to the 99. I suppose I will just have to take my lumps and try it out. I will also have the 95 plus fuselage to play with. I may also add a 725 wing. I've seen a lot of useful talk on these smaller wings on the race setup on this page. Thanks to all of you crash test mannequins who test fly all of these combinations so the rest of us can learn from you. Still a few weeks from having open water her in Canada. I'll update once I give it a go. Cheers

You'll probably have fun regardless

Yes moving from the i76 to the race foils will feel super slippery. The 95+ is sailable, but it reacts very quickly to attitude inputs. It looks like the race guys are going with fuses about that length for choppy water to help deal with swells and needed quick changes at slalom speed.

Both the i76 and i99 felt like everything was significantly slowed down in comparison. Both the 115+ and the 105+ feel much more stable with that extra length behind the mast, 105+ really good. At first the 900 wing scared me but going at 20ish knots feels good now, but pushing for more has been my goal for a while. It's so much easier to go faster with the shorter fuses than with the 115+ on more of a reach.

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H2Ophbc said..
I suppose that will be the key........putting the wing in roughly the same position under foot as on a race board. When I added the i76 wing last summer it was like learning to foil all over after being so used to the 99. I suppose I will just have to take my lumps and try it out. I will also have the 95 plus fuselage to play with. I may also add a 725 wing. I've seen a lot of useful talk on these smaller wings on the race setup on this page. Thanks to all of you crash test mannequins who test fly all of these combinations so the rest of us can learn from you. Still a few weeks from having open water her in Canada. I'll update once I give it a go. Cheers

Don't feel like you need to go down in wing size at first especially if you are coming from much bigger wings. If you go 105-115 for fuse length, I think you'll be surprised by how longitudinally stable the foil will be. In my limited experience with the i76, I found racing fuses more stable. And, with the shims, don't get too freaked out about having the wing in the same exact spot. If anything, you might find that by erring on the side of caution, you'll end up being nose heavy.

The great part of the bigger wings - 900/1000 say, is the glide compared to the 99. You'll initially need just a touch more speed to get going but the slipperiness, especially on the light days, will surprise you. You'll be in a lull and just keep on going where the 99 would have slowed and mushed off the foil. It doesn't have to be all about "speed" - plenty of us slow folks ride this stuff as well.

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H2Ophbc said..
I suppose that will be the key........putting the wing in roughly the same position under foot as on a race board. When I added the i76 wing last summer it was like learning to foil all over after being so used to the 99. I suppose I will just have to take my lumps and try it out. I will also have the 95 plus fuselage to play with. I may also add a 725 wing. I've seen a lot of useful talk on these smaller wings on the race setup on this page. Thanks to all of you crash test mannequins who test fly all of these combinations so the rest of us can learn from you. Still a few weeks from having open water her in Canada. I'll update once I give it a go. Cheers

Don't feel like you need to go down in wing size at first especially if you are coming from much bigger wings. If you go 105-115 for fuse length, I think you'll be surprised by how longitudinally stable the foil will be. In my limited experience with the i76, I found racing fuses more stable. And, with the shims, don't get too freaked out about having the wing in the same exact spot. If anything, you might find that by erring on the side of caution, you'll end up being nose heavy.

The great part of the bigger wings - 900/1000 say, is the glide compared to the 99. You'll initially need just a touch more speed to get going but the slipperiness, especially on the light days, will surprise you. You'll be in a lull and just keep on going where the 99 would have slowed and mushed off the foil. It doesn't have to be all about "speed" - plenty of us slow folks ride this stuff as well.

That is exactly what I want to hear wrt gliding through the lulls. It is the main reason I am going to a race setup. I can stay in the air on the 99 almost indefinitely by pumping sail and foil but its exhausting. Right now I'm praying to the Fed-Ex gods to bring my foil set and wishing god's speed to the container ship bringing the board and rig. Oh....and for the ice to melt. :)

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H2Ophbc said..

Paducah said..

H2Ophbc said..
I suppose that will be the key........putting the wing in roughly the same position under foot as on a race board. When I added the i76 wing last summer it was like learning to foil all over after being so used to the 99. I suppose I will just have to take my lumps and try it out. I will also have the 95 plus fuselage to play with. I may also add a 725 wing. I've seen a lot of useful talk on these smaller wings on the race setup on this page. Thanks to all of you crash test mannequins who test fly all of these combinations so the rest of us can learn from you. Still a few weeks from having open water her in Canada. I'll update once I give it a go. Cheers

Don't feel like you need to go down in wing size at first especially if you are coming from much bigger wings. If you go 105-115 for fuse length, I think you'll be surprised by how longitudinally stable the foil will be. In my limited experience with the i76, I found racing fuses more stable. And, with the shims, don't get too freaked out about having the wing in the same exact spot. If anything, you might find that by erring on the side of caution, you'll end up being nose heavy.

The great part of the bigger wings - 900/1000 say, is the glide compared to the 99. You'll initially need just a touch more speed to get going but the slipperiness, especially on the light days, will surprise you. You'll be in a lull and just keep on going where the 99 would have slowed and mushed off the foil. It doesn't have to be all about "speed" - plenty of us slow folks ride this stuff as well.

That is exactly what I want to hear wrt gliding through the lulls. It is the main reason I am going to a race setup. I can stay in the air on the 99 almost indefinitely by pumping sail and foil but its exhausting. Right now I'm praying to the Fed-Ex gods to bring my foil set and wishing god's speed to the container ship bringing the board and rig. Oh....and for the ice to melt. :)

Let us know what your experience is like. I used before i84 and i99 then switched to Armstrong foil used 2400, 1850, 1550, 1125 (HA) wings with my levitator 160 lt, I am heavier than you are. Then I decided to go SB 115+/800/-255, IQfoil mast 95 and tried the adaptor on my levitator. I was not that successful but this could be my lack of skills and I did not spend too much time. The i99 and i84 set up is completely different and you need to use bigger sails to get your race foil loaded. It looks like you have all of the sails to experiment for your windy conditions. With low aspect foils, you could use smaller sails and ride is very comfortable. HA foil is completely different and it took me several runs until I started to feel better on SB freeride board with IQfoil. Speed is addictive with the race set-up however, on very windy days I still go to my LA foils with very small sails and enjoy the comfort rather than beaten down on a race foil until I figure out smaller race wings. If you will be able to use IQfoil on windy days, I may try again but so far I decided to give up this idea though keeping the adaptor.
Footstraps with the SB 115+ is going to be more forward than i99 set-up, foil mast will be pushed all the way back. I could not find my balance with the race foil set up on the Levitator and decided to get SB freeride 150 lt board.