Sean thanks very much stay tuned for thread ... will be a brief one !! ...

CJW noted re corrosion I was planning to put some of the inserts per below in with locitite blue 243 or permatex 3 which are supposed to limit / significantly slow the reaction and are used a lot in outboards etc as was concerned re stripping the Ali threads?

could you instead drill all the way through and use countersunk stainless barrel nuts ? may also work as a fix for stripped fuselages .

the lateral ones on the starboard are like those

Select to expand quote

seanhogan said..
the lateral ones on the starboard are like those

Agreed these might be better way to go-appreciate all input gents

Select to expand quote

Adam555 said..
Excellent thanks Sean - think still lots to come here as it's all about stability and once my foot is good will be going 'semi strapless' ( bought some half straps to try!) can't afford another foot layoff

Hi Adam, I also badly injured one of my ankles and was thinking about using the Slingshot half straps... Did you already try them?

Select to expand quote

ITA62 said..

Adam555 said..
Excellent thanks Sean - think still lots to come here as it's all about stability and once my foot is good will be going 'semi strapless' ( bought some half straps to try!) can't afford another foot layoff

Hi Adam, I also badly injured one of my ankles and was thinking about using the Slingshot half straps... Did you already try them?

Hi ITA62

How did you injured it?? Foiling?
Just about to start foiling, being 53, would like to prevent any injury if possible.

Thanks

I am 53 as well!

In one year foiling I had a first time, when I was a beginner, my foot legaments torned and a second time, when I was much more advanced, a badly torned ankle with a microfracture. The problem is when you loose control of the flight and do not manage to follow the fall in the direction where the foil, which has a lot of leverage, wants to go! In other words when your body goes in the opposite direction of the board...

Only ways to avoid it is avoiding foiling overpowered, in the relationship between sail and foil configuration, and always hold the boom whatever happens (which is sometimes counter intuitive thus difficult to do...).

I am now going to try half straps which should hold your feet much less but might be much less effective in pumping, Jibing or when you need some leverage with the feet (in any case less than in normal windsurfing). As soon as I will have tried them I will follow up...

Hoep the above was helpful. F

Select to expand quote

ITA62 said..
I am 53 as well!

In one year foiling I had a first time, when I was a beginner, my foot legaments torned and a second time, when I was much more advanced, a badly torned ankle with a microfracture. The problem is when you loose control of the flight and do not manage to follow the fall in the direction where the foil, which has a lot of leverage, wants to go! In other words when your body goes in the opposite direction of the board...

Only ways to avoid it is avoiding foiling overpowered, in the relationship between sail and foil configuration, and always hold the boom whatever happens (which is sometimes counter intuitive thus difficult to do...).

I am now going to try half straps which should hold your feet much less but might be much less effective in pumping, Jibing or when you need some leverage with the feet (in any case less than in normal windsurfing). As soon as I will have tried them I will follow up...

Hoep the above was helpful. F

Hi ITA62

Thanks for detailed answer.
If half strap where not available what would you rather choose as solution:
Wide open straps for easy going out
or
tight straps only for toes
to prevent injuries?'

Select to expand quote

seanhogan said..
serious testing in france :
(gotta love the wetsuit)

Beetlejuice comes to mind...

Select to expand quote

cro23 said..

ITA62 said..
I am 53 as well!

In one year foiling I had a first time, when I was a beginner, my foot legaments torned and a second time, when I was much more advanced, a badly torned ankle with a microfracture. The problem is when you loose control of the flight and do not manage to follow the fall in the direction where the foil, which has a lot of leverage, wants to go! In other words when your body goes in the opposite direction of the board...

Only ways to avoid it is avoiding foiling overpowered, in the relationship between sail and foil configuration, and always hold the boom whatever happens (which is sometimes counter intuitive thus difficult to do...).

I am now going to try half straps which should hold your feet much less but might be much less effective in pumping, Jibing or when you need some leverage with the feet (in any case less than in normal windsurfing). As soon as I will have tried them I will follow up...

Hoep the above was helpful. F

Hi ITA62

Thanks for detailed answer.
If half strap where not available what would you rather choose as solution:
Wide open straps for easy going out
or
tight straps only for toes
to prevent injuries?'

I would definitely go for tight straps and for making the screw points wider so that there will be more room for the feet to twist and get out...

will try that

Thanks

Select to expand quote

cro23 said..
will try that

Thanks

In the meanwhile I tried strapless and it is definitely possible and pleasant!

huge offer from starboard next year :
starboardfoils.com/pages/overview-2019

Select to expand quote

7.8seanhogan said..
huge offer from starboard next year :
starboardfoils.com/pages/overview-2019

Thanks Sean managed to get my
millennium out on sat for its first sail.
wind around 15-18. 7.9 sail
It took off slow and steady like a B52.
I found it quite stable and easy to control even
in wind I would off considered too strong for it.
It felt slower up wind for me compared to the 800 but off the wind it felt good as I could keep
pushing lower angles in the lulls.
def looking forward to testing the bottom end!
also need to find a wider tailed board to make good use of the wing up wind.

I just (finally) received the SB 1100 front wing to mix into my foil quiver. I like the idea of the super cruiser, but since it's not compatible with the other system, I'm going to try to get foiling in even lighter winds with an 1100FW/115Fuse/330 stab. Kind of a hybrid of all of them.

Select to expand quote

seanhogan said..
Hi Adam

from rear of mast to front of stab : 48 cm
from rear of mast to actual stab wing : 53.5cm
see pic (sorry, night time):


from front of mast to front wing with body part : 20 cm
from front of mast to actual front wing : 24 cm




As you may notice I use the large stab( cause that's all I have..)
So to counteract the powerful lift and need of front foot pressure I was advised to put a washer under the center bolt of the stab. (that way the front part of the stab doesn't stick out and create unwanted vortex/whistling ).

I works a treat !!! yesterday I was using it in 17 knts with a 7.0 OD, perfect stability !!
I can now keep my $$ for other toys instead of buying the race stab (not to mention how good it is is very light wind)

Sean, how thick is the washer you put under the middle bolt?

1.5 mm plumbing rubber washer, so you can squeeze it down if needed

Select to expand quote

seanhogan said..
1.5 mm plumbing rubber washer, so you can squeeze it down if needed

Thank you!
1.5 mm of rubber does not seem like much. Does it make a noticeable difference and does it sing at speed?

It does chang a lot ! Totally different ride. Without it I had to transfer all my weight on the front foot and couldn't use the rear strap. The blessed foil was breaching far too often !
Once I started using the washer it became a smooth ride again, both feet strapped and perfect balance !

No singing whatever the speed, just don't over tighten the stab as it may crack it.
Someone came up with a 3g printed "wedge" to make it look better. I'll try to find the pic.

there it is, pretty neat !
www.facebook.com/groups/142218593052715/permalink/326276417980264/

I am thinking what SB parts to buy for next season to assemble a foil.
I know if I get Team Set then I could try and figure out myself, but it will be quite costly experience if then I will use just one combination.
May be, if I buy just proper parts, that could cover my needs/conditions up to 90% or so.

Question to those who have multiple fuselages, wings and stabs, like Team Set.

Which combination of them do you use most of time, or prefer to use (and when/why)?
If you use multiple combinations, please tell too, in which conditions, what is slice of time, etc..
Something like a little CSV table. I'll give my example:

Fus len, Wing wid, Stab wid, Time%, Conditions etc
80 cm, 90 cm, 50 cm, 90%, Light and normal wind (up to 22kn)
80 cm, 67 cm, 50 cm, 5%, Strong wind (20-24)
80 cm, 67 cm, 42 cm, 2%, Strong wind (20-24)
Fin , , , 3%, Strong wind and crazy chop

* Fuselage full length is 80cm, 70cm is from wing center to stab center.
* W 67 cm, S 42 cm are original kitefoil wing/stab
* W 90, S 50 - mine DIY wing/stab

THANKS!

here's (in my opinion) the dream combo from *board (didn't exist at the time I bought my set...) :

mast 95/fuse 95/ fwing 800/ stab 255

should cover all conditions pretty well, I can't see myself switching bits and pieces around depending on the wind or chop.

Select to expand quote

seanhogan said..
there it is, pretty neat !
www.facebook.com/groups/142218593052715/permalink/326276417980264/

These are massive wedges, way bigger than 1.5 mm. Wonder why would one need such an extreme if 1.5 mm does the job.

Hi SL
remember it's only the width (height/length??) on the middle hole that counts.

Part 1

Has anyone tried the 95 fuselage with the 330 stab? Thinking of upgrading my GT alu if it doesn't sell soon but want to avoid the rabbit hole of replacing everything but the wing.

Select to expand quote

Paducah said..
Has anyone tried the 95 fuselage with the 330 stab? Thinking of upgrading my GT alu if it doesn't sell soon but want to avoid the rabbit hole of replacing everything but the wing.

What front wing? I've done this with 800 wing and both the 225 and 330 stab. 330 is easier to use but more draggy.

Select to expand quote

scottydog said..

Paducah said..
Has anyone tried the 95 fuselage with the 330 stab? Thinking of upgrading my GT alu if it doesn't sell soon but want to avoid the rabbit hole of replacing everything but the wing.

What front wing? I've done this with 800 wing and both the 225 and 330 stab. 330 is easier to use but more draggy.

800 - stock GT wing. When I"m powered up, the 330 is plenty fast for me - I'm a bit smaller so draggy is less of a concern than having to stand on the nose to keep everything in the water.

The foil is going to be more front foot biased with the longer fuselage compared to the stock GT length fuse, even with a 255 stab on the 95 fuse.

i use the 95 with a 255 . it took a few runs to get used to the difference in pitch stability compared to the 115 but really like it.
the 95 with a 330 should be really good , I imagine the stability would be more like the 115/255 setup but with the lift a bit further back .