Has anyone tried windfoiling in the surf, including wave riding and jumping.

There's a dude and it's nuking and he rocks up in a combi with a foil and a sail fully rigged in the back and it's epic.

Why would you bother?
From what i've seen from foiling in waves (sup/surf/tow in etc..) it's lame.
Isn't wave riding all about sweeping bottom turns, big hacks, burying a rail or sliding the fins?
I can't see how this is possible on a foil

Ah found it...



...early days.

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Stuthepirate said..
Why would you bother?
From what i've seen from foiling in waves (sup/surf/tow in etc..) it's lame.
Isn't wave riding all about sweeping bottom turns, big hacks, burying a rail or sliding the fins?
I can't see how this is possible on a foil

It is possible, but only on the outside in deeper water (must protect the foil), and from what I've been witnessing almost every time I go out, it's just gentle turns on the wave, more like cruising, no slashing, not yet anyway. So I'm on the "why bother" side of things when it comes to the waves. Nothing feels better than a fade in hard slashing bottom turn followed by a powerful off the lip, which could lead to another hard slashing bottom turn. I've yet to see anybody do that by either windfoiling or kite foiling.
No wave riding in the Storm Windfoiling vid, but it is gnarly.

Why bother?
When foiling, you're riding OVER the chop, windswell, and waves. It's sorta like kitesurfing, you can jump anytime without any waves, so why bother to time your jumps and rides to the slower waves? When riding the wave, you're windfoiling in the water just in front of the breaking waves, so you're only using the breaking wave as a reference point.

Been doing it for awhile now and I am hooked, mostly in light winds thou.
Check blog for more explanation.

reefwarriors.wordpress.com/2017/08/02/windsurfing-wave-foiling/

pretty cool mate !!!

what sort of foil is it ? Go foil ?
cheers

yes its a Go foil, The Maliko model, its made for down wind surf foiling, but works perfect with the sail, and I like the shorter mast 24.5in, gives you more control riding waves.

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da vecta said..
Ah found it...

...early days.

Wow that's a tiny sail.

You don't see him landing any of those back loops but it certainly looks doable.

That hydrofoil looks dangerous to me. Can you imagine falling on it?

Not windfoiling per se' but foiling in the waves taken to the next level,,,,,,,, it's just a matter of time until we see ??????

Not surf. But jumping.

Not all windfoils are built equal. A lot of them aren't built to handle that kind of load.

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fun little vid of me Windsurf Wave Foiling on a very crappy day condition wise. its still fun as ****. for more info reefwarriors.wordpress.com/2017/11/19/red-barron-vid/

Not in the surf but he lands a backloop(0:50s), forwards, etc, on flatwater. ;

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Stuthepirate said..
Why would you bother?
From what i've seen from foiling in waves (sup/surf/tow in etc..) it's lame.
Isn't wave riding all about sweeping bottom turns, big hacks, burying a rail or sliding the fins?
I can't see how this is possible on a foil

You do it and strive to do it because it's a whole new challenge that brings a whole new set of rewards.

From a kite foiling perspective, you will understand "why bother" the day you do a fully banked over carving turn and come blasting out the other side at a million miles an hour. Think of a fully cranked lay down gybe, then multiply it by 5. The feel of the g forces and the carving cranking feeling are off the scale.

There's this feeling of committing to the fall into the carve and feeling the foil bite and carve through the water so that you go from laying over to upright and feeling the whip of power on the exit. The tighter and harder the carve the better the feeling. Even better is doing it in glassy smooth water over a sandy bottom.

Even doing linked carving turns on small bay chop are a joyful experience. Add jumps into it and chances are you won't want to do anything else. Apart from the fun of doing it, the sound of the foil carving through the water then doing this "schwoooop" sound as you leave the surface is awesome. Think of light sabre sound effects and you get the idea.

Windfoilers are still at the beginning stage where kite foilers were 2-3 years ago. Everybody has "opinions" about how hard it is to do and how dangerous it will be and how it's only for light wind. Once you get through the very long learning curve you understand that it is actually quite easy to do and the dangers are hugely exaggerated. In fact, it's the fear and expectation of difficulty that makes the learning curve to so long. Just do it. You'll love it.

PS low speed foil rock. You only lose a couple of knots of top end speed, but you gain heaps in stability and carvability and ease of use. You get huge amounts of time to deal with your sail (or kite in my case) on the exit to a transition because the foil just holds you up at any speed you like.