Hi Grantmac, I have used the wing forward for sometime now. I am 100 kgs wet no issues at all. I use it mostly with an 8.6 4 cam race sail. The foils is fantastic in this position in terms of lift and control - also less back foot pressure needed. I think if it is in the normal rear position it feels faster if you keep it low and drive it(no data). This foil excels with some bumps and is a completely different concept to race style foils it is meant to be ridden more upright and is optimum when it is "surfed" to some degree.

I just did some measuring using pictures online and the Quick Lock surf fuselage is the same length as using the forward position on the SuperCruiser. So clearly the wings are designed to handle that stress.

Certainly wish SB would advertise that, it's a brilliant way to get two different set-ups out of the same equipment!

Now I wonder what it would be like to use the smaller 270cm2 surf stabilizer with that set-up? Kind of a surfy version of the Race fuselage.

I agree that forward position is better. Standard position is too back foot heavy. To control lift I flattened out the stabiliser wing in preference to putting the main wing back. I have wondered whether this position is vulnerable to damage though - any mods to protect the stabiliser and/or wing in this position?

The surf seems to be where wings break and SB are confident enough to run that little fuselage inside the wing on the surf setups so I think it's likely okay?

I've run it twice now with the wing forward and stabilizer rear of center.
Absolutely brilliant!
This has all the pitch stability of the 115 race setup but it still turns nicely.

I do think that moving the fin box forward and running the wing at short extension will make it a bit more reactive for riding swell but for now this is just great. Its like the pitch control is on autopilot.
The speed is also improved probably because of the flatter stabilizer. I'd like to see how it works with the smaller 270 stab in this long position.

Now I'm going to make a fairing to cover the gap left by the wing. Its tempting to do it with carbon but I think I'll just use some heat forming plastic sheet.

I find it funny how little press this setup is getting compared to Slingshot. In my mind it absolutely blows it away for build quality and performance.

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Grantmac said..
I've run it twice now with the wing forward and stabilizer rear of center.
Absolutely brilliant!
This has all the pitch stability of the 115 race setup but it still turns nicely.

I do think that moving the fin box forward and running the wing at short extension will make it a bit more reactive for riding swell but for now this is just great. Its like the pitch control is on autopilot.
The speed is also improved probably because of the flatter stabilizer. I'd like to see how it works with the smaller 270 stab in this long position.

Now I'm going to make a fairing to cover the gap left by the wing. Its tempting to do it with carbon but I think I'll just use some heat forming plastic sheet.

I find it funny how little press this setup is getting compared to Slingshot. In my mind it absolutely blows it away for build quality and performance.

is the super cruiser the equivalent of the i76 or i84? or something in between?

I haven't ridden the 84.

It has more low end glide and pitch stability than the I76 but it's just as fast with perhaps a bit better upwind angle.

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Grantmac said..

I find it funny how little press this setup is getting compared to Slingshot. In my mind it absolutely blows it away for build quality and performance.

Indeed, this piece of equipment is just unreal ! Locally it's the opposite to Oz, no SS on the water just supercruisers and Sb race foils everywhere (with a few taaroas )
Pretty sure it would also work well with a 1500 or 1300 wing for wingfoiling (with the RAZR stab)

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Grantmac said..I find it funny how little press this setup is getting compared to Slingshot. In my mind it absolutely blows it away for build quality and performance.

That's a big claim.
Which Slingshot wing are you comparing the Supercruiser to and how does it "absolutely blow it away for performance"?

I've ridden the I76 for several months and the Gamma 68 for about 2 years before that. I've also sailed with foilers who are better than I am and who I couldn't quite match when I was on the I76, on the SC1700 I ran with him no problem.
This is just a much better engineered product.

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Grantmac said..I've ridden the I76 for several months and the Gamma 68 for about 2 years before that. I've also sailed with foilers who are better than I am and who I couldn't quite match when I was on the I76, on the SC1700 I ran with him no problem.
This is just a much better engineered product.

I guess foil "performance" is open to interpretation.

For me, it means a foil that excels in the ocean carving 1 to 2m windswells and riding similar size waves, in winds ranging from 10-25 knots.
Robust enough for hundreds of sessions of the above with the occasional full speed smash into a limestone reef.
Super-stoked with my Infinity 76

And don't get me started on the Infinity 65

We have very similar use requirements, although my skill level isn't quite there compared to yours (your videos are fantastic).

Having owned both personally and sailed adjacent to others using the opposite kit I can say confidently the Supercruiser is better equipment. From the fasteners to the fuselage design with its adjustable stabilizer and wing position.

Durability has not been a strong point for the Infinity wings used around here. Most guys have split at least one without physically hitting anything. Even treating them very delicately mine picked up a lot of deep scratches and trailing edge chips.
The overall weight of the Supercruiser is a little lighter but the wing itself is heavier.

Since neither of us are racing its really a matter of which foil feels best under us and we have the most confidence in the construction of.
Lots of people get exposed to the Slingshot products because of their marketing. Starboard seems to have put more effort into development but failed on the marketing side.

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Grantmac said..
I've run it twice now with the wing forward and stabilizer rear of center.
Absolutely brilliant!
This has all the pitch stability of the 115 race setup but it still turns nicely.

I do think that moving the fin box forward and running the wing at short extension will make it a bit more reactive for riding swell but for now this is just great. Its like the pitch control is on autopilot.
The speed is also improved probably because of the flatter stabilizer. I'd like to see how it works with the smaller 270 stab in this long position.

Now I'm going to make a fairing to cover the gap left by the wing. Its tempting to do it with carbon but I think I'll just use some heat forming plastic sheet.

I find it funny how little press this setup is getting compared to Slingshot. In my mind it absolutely blows it away for build quality and performance.

Hello Grantmac (first post here, so hello everyone, great forum!)
I also run the SC in the forward position and have covered the gap by using a piece of clear PVC hose.
If you use a 25mm inner diameter and 4 mm wall thickness (giving you 33mm outer diameter) it will slide on snugly with some soap water.
Cut the hose at 54mm length, that will ensure slight compression and gapless cover of the 52mm.
Plus it's a reversible measure...

Hope that helps,
Cheers

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I find it funny how little press this setup is getting compared to Slingshot. In my mind it absolutely blows it away for build quality and performance.

I came really close to getting the sc before settling on an alu Moses Vento. I was worried that using a freeride board with tuttle mount might cause problems with how far back the front wing looks on the sc (close to the mast). I'm glad you're happy with it, it certainly looks like it's good stuff.

Great suggestion Laird! I'll have to pick some up.

The wing position is a bit atypical for boards with normal mast base positions etc. The FoilX board it's designed to work with has the track almost as far back as the front straps.
The local who has one along with this foil runs the wing in the rear position and reports that it balances perfectly.

I may try moving my front footstraps and mast base right back then try it with the rear wing position again. Probably if I'm well powered up on a smaller sail.

Smish, I almost got the Moses as well and I think it's a great choice. If this hadn't come along at a great price that's probably what I would be riding.

Did a couple sessions on the X145 with the SC, works perfectly with the wing in rear position, good mate (better sailor than me) has the set up with an X105, same conclusion back position is perfectly balanced.

SC on my 150 freeride worked better with the wing in front position.